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24. Henry Waxman wins breakthrough on health bill (Public Option Retained)
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 03:08 PM by kpete
Source: Politico

Henry Waxman wins breakthrough on health bill

After weeks of head-banging negotiations, House Democrats finally got the breakthrough they needed on health care.

Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) has cut the cost of his bill and cut a deal to reconvene his committee and vote on the Democrats' sweeping health care proposals, with a goal of completing work by the time lawmakers leave town for the summer on Friday.

There wont be a vote before the full House before the August recess, but the committee breakthrough after tense negotiations with Blue Dog Democrats is a significant step for the Democrats.

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The new version of the bill also has a breakthrough on the concept of health care co-ops, seen by some as an alternative to a public plan. States would be allowed to create co-ops for residents to buy private insurance. But the Waxman-Ross deal will also keeps the "public option" of government-sponsored health care.




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25570.html#ix...



House Retains Public Option In Compromise, But Delays Vote Until September
By Brian Beutler - July 29, 2009, 1:12PM
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/house-retain...
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  -Blue Dogs strike deal: No health vote before recess sabra  Jul-29-09 11:40 AM   #0 
  - No Health Insurance For Blue Dogs  iamjoy   Jul-29-09 11:48 AM   #1 
  - see #2  kirby   Jul-29-09 11:58 AM   #3 
  - I see that outrage on DU all the time, but  kirby   Jul-29-09 11:57 AM   #2 
  - It would hurt them. They hate to spend a dime of their own money when  mbperrin   Jul-29-09 03:20 PM   #7 
  - From now on, we call 'em the BUSH DOGS. n/t  Zorra   Jul-29-09 02:16 PM   #4 
  - Nah. Bush is so last administration.  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 07:22 AM   #103 
     - On the contrary, given the outrageously neo-conservative behavior of the Bush Dogs,  Zorra   Jul-30-09 02:59 PM   #117 
  - no health insurance for anybody in Congress  Bombero1956   Jul-29-09 02:18 PM   #5 
  - Thanks to the DLC/Emmanuel . . . is Obama after Emannuel for this . . .????  defendandprotect   Jul-29-09 03:00 PM   #6 
  - Obama's administration is full of Clinton retreads. I don't think that is because Obama  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 07:32 AM   #105 
  - House Retains Public Option In Compromise, But Delays Vote Until September  swag   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #8 
  - Big question. Will states still be allowed to adopt single payer if they want? n/t  Laelth   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #9 
  - I just heard Kucinich on with Thom Hartmann saying he had an amendment in there for that.  billyoc   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #10 
  - I knew he had that added. I was wondering whether Waxman gave it away.  Laelth   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #11 
  - good points and I hope you're right  corpseratemedia   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #13 
  - That's how the Canadians did it, one province did it, then the rest followed.  billyoc   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #14 
  - Hawaii has had a public care system since the 70s-few others have joined them  librechik   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #16 
  - Every state has a public care system, single payer for all is completely different.  billyoc   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #18 
  - and we, too, must follow the Canadians! Cue the mounties!  Divine Discontent   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #21 
  - Dennis was saying  Iwillnevergiveup   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #15 
  - That's very encouraging. Thanks. n/t  Laelth   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #23 
  - Yes... that's the bottom line for me too.... nt  Blasphemer   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #19 
  - i love that man.  Soylent Brice   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #12 
  - Mr. Kuch is da man  fascisthunter   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #17 
     - me too..  winyanstaz   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #20 
  - States could offer single payer now. Many states are the single payer  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 07:26 AM   #104 
  - Just so the House not only retains a public option, ...  damntexdem   Jul-29-09 08:37 PM   #22 
  - Henry Waxman wins breakthrough on health bill (Public Option Retained)  kpete   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #24 
  - It's a "breakthrough" until the blue dogs get their marching orders  annabanana   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #25 
  - Even if the House passes a reform with a public plan, the war isn't won.  damntexdem   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #38 
     - And to top it all off these plans don't even accomplish their  pokercat999   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #40 
        - In fairness, Obama was clear during the campaign about phasing out of Iraq slowly--and "surging" in  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 07:40 AM   #106 
  - I was looking for this sentence:  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #26 
  - So am I, big time actually....nt  SeeHopeWin   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #59 
  - Good. He's worked so hard, he looks like hell these days.  timeforpeace   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #27 
  - Well, he's not normally the prettiest face anyway, but he's a true hero of the people!  bobbolink   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #63 
  - Nice to hear some good news for a change!  Jester Messiah   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #28 
  - Don't get overly excited and forget, the last time Waxman  truedelphi   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #29 
  - I agree here...we do need to worry about the details  Zodiak   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #47 
     - I think I agree with everything you stated EXCEPT Obama vetoing............  pattmarty   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #52 
     - Agree and disagree. I agree that he will probably sign whatever hits his desk. I am not sure that  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:08 AM   #108 
     - So what it might all be coming down to is this:  truedelphi   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #56 
        - Yeah, pretty much  Zodiak   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #57 
        - Money buys a politician a lot of campaign advantage, but it does not buy votes.  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 07:52 AM   #107 
        - As of 8:58 cst I am still hopeful, but I am beginning to fear the worst.  pattmarty   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #87 
        - That's about it in a nutshell.  Kittycat   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #101 
        - Thing is, this is not really "health care" reform. That is a misnomer. It's medical insurance  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:21 AM   #109 
  - Suck my anus Baucus  sasquatch   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #30 
  - You say the sweetest things....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #42 
  - Yeah, I think it is because of the way my mom raised me  sasquatch   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #96 
  - I have to agree... suck his anus, Baucus... jerk.  Divine Discontent   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #46 
  - PC term is "Toss my salad, Baucus". But I like your version too!  Union Yes   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #48 
  - Yeah, but his senate diction might not pick it up right away though  sasquatch   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #97 
  - Is that procedure covered in his bill?  pattmarty   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #53 
     - Not sure, it was pre-existing  Juan_de_la_Dem   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #55 
  - This is our one chance to fix this problem the right way  humbled_opinion   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #31 
  - How do you propose we do that?  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:24 AM   #110 
  - I'm hoping we had something to do with it. Calling them those blue dogs and telling them if they  bkkyosemite   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #32 
  - I might be mistaken, but it sounds like Obama is heading off right wingers  groundloop   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #35 
  - We are on it  Alcibiades   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #90 
  - But, this IS medical insurance reform, not health care reform. No one is talking about  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:31 AM   #111 
  - Don't bet against Waxman.  Are_grits_groceries   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #33 
  - That Breakthrough is worthless... It's equal to the no bid Pharma rates.  Kittycat   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #34 
  - Here are two points, from me, a cynic:  truedelphi   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #58 
  - Let me guess, the compromise is just enough for the Democrats to save face...  Umbral   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #36 
  - Republicans posing as blue dog Democrats are not amused  Kingofalldems   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #37 
  - Update: Progressives rejects compromise  librechik   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #39 
  - Thank goodness for the Progressive Caucus. n/t  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #65 
     - Actually, looks like markup was delayed because it conflicted with a defense appropriations vote.  backscatter712   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #66 
        - I am fully on board with that.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #67 
           - I'm on board with you.  backscatter712   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #91 
  - Good for Waxman.  Vidar   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #41 
  - Imma keep my fingers crossed...  MrBlueSky   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #43 
  - If Waxman pulls this off, he's a GD American hero...  rosesaylavee   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #44 
  - It's at least a good tactical victory  Ken Burch   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #45 
  - According to an NPR report yesterday, Gibbs said Obama may accept no  MasonJar   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #49 
  - Also the OP is I think very true. Obama yesterday called the Public Option controversial today  bkkyosemite   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #51 
  - I don't see your reasons for rejecting Obama to be  truedelphi   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #61 
  - I can guarantee that with Hillary, things would not be much different.  tabatha   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #93 
  - I supported Obama in every way from December 2007 and I am furious. However,  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:42 AM   #112 
  - It's watered down and I just got mad and called Waxman's office. Him and Pelosi (who I called too)  bkkyosemite   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #50 
  - Here...let me fix that for you...  Duke Newcombe   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #54 
  - K & R THIS ^^^ post :( nt  glitch   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #68 
  - Excellent work, Rhambo wins!!!  SeeHopeWin   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #60 
  - The honorable congressman Waxman comes through for the people again!!  Politicub   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #62 
  - The Progressive Caucus is NOT on board.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #64 
  - Good. nt  glitch   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #70 
  - Waxman is a member of the Progressive Caucus(!) nt  Jackpine Radical   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #83 
     - Indeed, he is.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #84 
        - Try again?  Jackpine Radical   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #88 
           - The "try again" was directed at Congress, not you.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #89 
              - Yes, it's good to see them stand their ground.  Jackpine Radical   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #94 
                 - Well said on all points.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #98 
  - interesting spin Politico has  paulk   Jul-30-09 12:02 AM   #69 
  - Waxman Postpones Health Markup Amid Liberal Backlash  Better Believe It   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #71 
  - Good for Woolsey  Oregone   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #72 
  - Finally, the liberals realized they are a larger coalition than the Blue Dogs!  DJ13   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #73 
  - Yes, but the Blue Dogs still would have enough votes to block any bill if they stick together. n/t  totodeinhere   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #81 
     - Yes, but the Blue Dogs would not get re-elected if liberal Dems and the DNC  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:49 AM   #113 
  - 'bout time for the liberal faction to start making as much noise as the Blue Cross faction  high density   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #74 
  - No kidding. To paraphrase Mr Lincoln. . .  Journeyman   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #78 
  - How many members exactly are in each caucus? I heard the.............  pattmarty   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #75 
  - 81 in the House.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #79 
     - ONLY 2 in the Senate? And Saunders is one of them? Crap. And how about all the Reps  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 08:57 AM   #114 
  - Go on Progressive Caucus !  bvar22   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #76 
  - Go Progressive Caucus!  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #77 
  - Call them and tell them I did.  bkkyosemite   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #95 
     - I think I will. n/t  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #99 
     - I called Congressman Woolsey's office today and said thanks.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 01:15 PM   #116 
  - Take a look at the Caucus' July 24 letter to Pelosi.  Laelth   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #80 
  - thanks  G_j   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #86 
  - She needs to go see Rhambo...nt  SeeHopeWin   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #82 
     - Why? Rahmbo is not progressive.  No Elephants   Jul-30-09 09:05 AM   #115 
  - 35 countries have their taxes pay for their health care through government services, and we are too  earcandle   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #85 
  - The Wax Man rocks. nt  Deep13   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #92 
  - The insurance cabal got what they wanted - The "public option" can't use Medicare fee schedule.....  Faryn Balyncd   Jul-30-09 12:03 AM   #100 
     - I didn't know that. And since the Health care Bill is 2,100 pages  truedelphi   Jul-30-09 03:53 PM   #119 
  - blue-dogs = murderers for hire by health-industrial-complex (n/t)  ProudDad   Jul-30-09 01:10 AM   #102 
  - The real question that needs to be answered is what do they get out  harun   Jul-30-09 03:29 PM   #118 
 

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