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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 05:44 PM
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33. The property tax rate is too low. I am in favor of increasing it to 3%.
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 05:45 PM by 4lbs
Yes, that means I'll probably pay about $2000 more a year in property tax on my house, but we want all these social services and don't think of how to pay for it.

The money needs to come from somewhere.

Prop 13, passed in 1978, started the state's decline in education quality, since the schools, which were funded by property taxes, saw a massive reduction in their monies with respect to inflation, in the 1980s.

In 1978, California was in the top 5 in the nation in education quality. 10 years after Prop 13, it fell to almost last place.
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  - meh...  AsahinaKimi   Jul-28-09 02:38 PM   #7 
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  - The Democrats did this because they had no choice.  totodeinhere   Jul-28-09 02:12 PM   #4 
  - They did have a choice, just like the GOP.  David__77   Jul-28-09 02:36 PM   #5 
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        - Not voting for a Republican budget.  David__77   Jul-28-09 05:17 PM   #19 
        - If the Dems did not vote for some kind of budget there would be total chaos in the state...  totodeinhere   Jul-28-09 07:02 PM   #34 
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        - you dedicate yourself to finding the waivering GOP-types & stick to them  KakistocracyHater   Jul-29-09 01:36 AM   #74 
  - Dems did not do this. Der Gropenfuhrer threw them under the bus.  KamaAina   Jul-28-09 03:49 PM   #15 
  - we cannot get the 2/3's we ned  lies and propaganda   Jul-28-09 05:21 PM   #22 
     - But we don't have to vote for a bad budget that will kill the sick and starve people.  David__77   Jul-28-09 05:25 PM   #24 
     - can we get the 2/3 at the Mayoral Level?  KakistocracyHater   Jul-29-09 01:42 AM   #77 
  - Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.....my ass!  Hulk   Jul-28-09 02:36 PM   #6 
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  - Thats no joke!!!  cabluedem   Jul-30-09 08:27 AM   #96 
  - No pay cut for the Gropenator or the legislature I see.  Demobrat   Jul-28-09 02:39 PM   #8 
  - I thought Ahnold  Yupster   Jul-29-09 01:23 AM   #66 
  - He is just screwing the people of his state as fast as he can  winyanstaz   Jul-28-09 02:54 PM   #9 
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  - Has Arnold cut his staff? Maria's? The staff at the Governor's mansion?  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 03:26 PM   #12 
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  - Welcome to DU!  Strong Atheist   Jul-28-09 11:01 PM   #44 
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  - Ahnold & Maria's live-in manicurists object to your wild accusations.  chollybocker   Jul-28-09 05:22 PM   #23 
  - There's no way the state legislature, even working for free, adds up to $26 billion in savings.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 09:22 PM   #41 
  - Why is he Governor, AGAIN???  indimuse   Jul-28-09 04:41 PM   #16 
  - He is Governor because there are a lot of stupid people in California  Zorra   Jul-28-09 05:36 PM   #29 
     - and most of then came from some where else...  olddad56   Jul-28-09 07:32 PM   #35 
        - why is there never any mention of the interest on all of the money...  olddad56   Jul-28-09 07:34 PM   #36 
           - Well, first, the people of California had to vote on those bonds.  4lbs   Jul-29-09 01:14 AM   #65 
  - horrible governor shameful philosophy  democracy1st   Jul-28-09 05:03 PM   #17 
  - Well, how else is California supposed to bridge the $26 billion budget gap?  4lbs   Jul-28-09 05:08 PM   #18 
  - Restore taxes on the wealthy -- progressive tax rates should apply . . .  defendandprotect   Jul-28-09 05:33 PM   #28 
  - I agree. I also agree (although many won't) that the state sales tax should apply to anything  4lbs   Jul-28-09 05:40 PM   #31 
     - I'm okay with this, and I do almost all my shopping online.  Demobrat   Jul-28-09 10:53 PM   #43 
        - I agree with that. Taxing foodstuffs should be the absolute last resort.  4lbs   Jul-29-09 12:45 AM   #62 
  - We can't take any more taxes  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 05:38 PM   #30 
     - The property tax rate is too low. I am in favor of increasing it to 3%.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 05:44 PM   #33 
     - Holy crap... 3%... wtf  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 07:41 PM   #37 
     - Do you even think of how to close the state's budget gap?  4lbs   Jul-28-09 08:23 PM   #38 
        - delete  4lbs   Jul-28-09 09:17 PM   #39 
        - That's a sensible post.  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:16 PM   #47 
        - I'd prefer they cut workers and pensions  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 11:20 PM   #51 
           - That's right- drag everyone down to your level  depakid   Jul-29-09 01:53 AM   #78 
     - Agreed. I have had long talks with a relative on this matter.  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:12 PM   #46 
        - The big thing in Prop 13 was limiting how much property taxes could be raised each year.  4lbs   Jul-29-09 12:56 AM   #63 
           - Amazing.  barb162   Jul-29-09 12:59 PM   #82 
           - The funny thing is that all these parents would actually be saving money if they simply allowed  4lbs   Jul-29-09 01:44 PM   #83 
              - You do not understand how property taxes work.  Thothmes   Jul-29-09 06:01 PM   #90 
                 - But why not pay higher property taxes and send their kids to public school?  4lbs   Jul-29-09 09:49 PM   #94 
           - Of course, no one in California was smart enought  Thothmes   Jul-29-09 06:04 PM   #92 
     - California's property taxes are not high at all compared to some states.  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:07 PM   #45 
        - Property taxes go to cities  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 11:18 PM   #49 
           - Ours go mainly to thelocal school district, like over 90% of our tax bill.  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:22 PM   #52 
              - And property values are not close to CA, either.  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 11:26 PM   #54 
                 - My property (market) value  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:31 PM   #55 
                    - I don't know where you live  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 11:40 PM   #56 
                       - It makes no diff what the medians are  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:46 PM   #57 
                          - You've ignored the total tax burden  taught_me_patience   Jul-28-09 11:59 PM   #58 
                             - I haven't ignored the total tax burden. Your sales tax is about 1%  barb162   Jul-29-09 12:07 AM   #59 
  - The mark of a bully: attacking those least able to help themselves.  Vidar   Jul-28-09 05:20 PM   #21 
  - Ok, what else gets cut instead of welfare?  4lbs   Jul-28-09 09:23 PM   #42 
  - It's probably more akin to a lot of people don't want their taxes  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:17 PM   #48 
  - What's he supposed to do, cut military spending?  Dreamer Tatum   Jul-29-09 12:38 AM   #61 
     - Here's the state budget  Yupster   Jul-29-09 01:39 AM   #76 
        - That's about the size of it  slackmaster   Jul-30-09 10:32 AM   #98 
  - Who voted for this guy???? And why?????  defendandprotect   Jul-28-09 05:32 PM   #26 
  - Hahahaha. A question everyone keeps asking.  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:19 PM   #50 
     - Was this a Diebold "win" . . . ??  defendandprotect   Jul-29-09 02:11 PM   #84 
  - Can't he make corporate welfare cuts instead? nt  valerief   Jul-28-09 05:33 PM   #27 
  - Can anyone come up with a viable alternative? We already voted down raising taxes.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 09:19 PM   #40 
  - The only viable alternative is what is being done. Does CA have a lottery?  barb162   Jul-28-09 11:23 PM   #53 
     - Yeah, we have a lottery, but the funds from it are much less because fewer people are buying tickets  4lbs   Jul-29-09 01:03 AM   #64 
  - Schwarzenegger signs budget with more welfare cuts  Joanne98   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #67 
  - I would like to know where it's chiseled in stone that social programs get cut  Wapsie B   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #68 
  - The corporate charter.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #69 
  - Because it doesn't effect them directly.  Beavker   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #71 
  - What do you want California to do  customerserviceguy   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #73 
  - Actually, these social programs were the last cut.  4lbs   Jul-29-09 06:41 AM   #80 
  - School spending is somewhat protected by law  slackmaster   Jul-30-09 10:33 AM   #99 
  - Kill the Poor  sakabatou   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #70 
  - damn you gropenfailure  CountAllVotes   Jul-29-09 01:31 AM   #72 
  - ..and he's so HAPPY about it. He's finally sticking it to the poor  Liberal_in_LA   Jul-29-09 01:37 AM   #75 
  - Foster care already hadn't had any increases for seven years. Now they cut?  LeftyMom   Jul-29-09 02:16 AM   #79 
  - It was part of the last $700 million of cuts they had to do.  4lbs   Jul-29-09 06:44 AM   #81 
     - I'd rather see a few state employees laid off then foster kids go without.  LeftyMom   Jul-29-09 02:49 PM   #85 
     - So, you'd rather they lay off 25,000 people, who then still drain the state's coffers  4lbs   Jul-29-09 03:50 PM   #86 
        - At least they have alternatives. What the hell are foster youth supposed to do?  LeftyMom   Jul-30-09 03:43 AM   #95 
     - Hey moran!  tomhayes   Jul-29-09 04:07 PM   #87 
  - Republicans always target the poorest  Becky72   Jul-29-09 04:16 PM   #88 
  - may he starve in a gutter one day  fascisthunter   Jul-29-09 06:02 PM   #91 
  - That'll never happen.  cabluedem   Jul-30-09 08:30 AM   #97 
  - The people of California chose this they get to live with the consequences.  Eryemil   Jul-29-09 08:25 PM   #93 
 

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