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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:47 PM
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20. I saw that report, but I seriously doubt anyone knows what the final legislation actually contains.
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  -AP Sources: Senate group omitting Dem health goals David Zephyr  Jul-27-09 05:19 PM   #0 
  - without a public option,  DesertFlower   Jul-27-09 05:20 PM   #1 
  - Worse. There is mandatory insurance--loss of freedom--not for the common good, but  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:35 PM   #130 
  - What The F*ck!  Yes We Did   Jul-27-09 05:45 PM   #2 
  - If an eviscerated health care bill passes, you may want to consider  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:38 PM   #131 
  - Without a public option, will there still be a mandate  stranger81   Jul-27-09 05:52 PM   #3 
  - Yes, there will...  regnaD kciN   Jul-27-09 08:05 PM   #76 
  - This end result will be some weak piece of crap like this...  Iowa   Jul-27-09 06:13 PM   #4 
  - I called and sent a letter.  alfredo   Jul-27-09 06:26 PM   #5 
  - They're playing with fire. Democrats are in imminent danger of losing their base  Zorra   Jul-27-09 06:39 PM   #6 
  - Agree....they lose their base...  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:50 PM   #68 
  - Whatever the Republicans did to Bunning, the Democrats should do to the blue dogs.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:09 PM   #128 
  - March on Washington for Health Care Reform  John K   Jul-27-09 06:45 PM   #7 
  - I'll march with you. This has got to happen this time.  bear425   Jul-27-09 07:00 PM   #10 
  - There were doctors and nurses who marched on Congress...but the MSM didn't report it...  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:52 PM   #69 
  - There is a DC march for single payer planned for this Thurs. (7/30) n/t  clear eye   Jul-27-09 08:14 PM   #81 
     - how long has that been planned, and why haven't they gotten the word out better?  dysfunctional press   Jul-27-09 11:21 PM   #91 
        - It went out on the email lists around the end of last month.  clear eye   Jul-28-09 08:41 AM   #118 
           - how many people are expected...?  dysfunctional press   Jul-28-09 09:18 AM   #119 
              - Sorry, I have no idea. Ask Healthcare-NOW!  clear eye   Jul-28-09 10:37 AM   #122 
  - I hope they don't plan on getting re-elected.  bemildred   Jul-27-09 06:46 PM   #8 
  - Maybe the money was a bigger lure than even their poltical office.  David Zephyr   Jul-27-09 07:24 PM   #13 
  - Big money...and job offers...to become another lobbyist on a corporate bankroll.  Selatius   Jul-27-09 07:37 PM   #14 
  - In the House they WILL be Re-Elected. With Big Pharma Money...that's what it's all about..n/t  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:53 PM   #70 
  - They didn't do great after "hillarycare" failed, did they?  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:49 PM   #134 
  - Forcing people to buy anything from a private company is fascist economics.  New Dawn   Jul-27-09 06:50 PM   #9 
  - Like utilities  clear eye   Jul-27-09 08:18 PM   #82 
  - We need to get rid of the conservatives in our party nt  Thickasabrick   Jul-27-09 07:11 PM   #11 
  - Liberals are a dying breed. Literally, sadly. The Don't Trust Anyone Over Thirty  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 07:02 PM   #138 
  - Howard Dean For President  MannyGoldstein   Jul-27-09 07:11 PM   #12 
  - Agree...Obama's Presidency for Dems is at risk if he doesn't STAND UP AND FIGHT!  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:44 PM   #15 
  - Exactly.  David Zephyr   Jul-28-09 01:18 AM   #93 
  - Senate Finance Committee Dropping Dem Health Goals  No Passaran   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #16 
  - If businesses are not required to provide Health Insurance and there  OHdem10   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #17 
  - FUCK BAUCUS!!!!  BlooInBloo   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #18 
  - I'm fed up  Third Doctor   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #19 
  - I saw that report, but I seriously doubt anyone knows what the final legislation actually contains.  George II   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #20 
  - Once again it's proven that there is no Santa Claus.  The_Casual_Observer   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #21 
  - that lobby is too strong I"m afraid  No Passaran   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #25 
  - Actually, the plan is worse than that...  regnaD kciN   Jul-27-09 08:08 PM   #77 
  - Don't blame it on the medical insurers or the hospitals. This is the  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:46 PM   #133 
  - Quel choc!  mbperrin   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #22 
  - ugh..  indimuse   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #23 
  - "according to numerous officials"  bluestateguy   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #24 
  - Even if true, all other committees are Dems goals? Baucus/GOP were never for public option, so  MarjorieG   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #26 
  - No surprise here! Baucus accepted millions in what amounts to bribes  emsimon33   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #27 
  - No public option is not reform and Baucus and any dems promoting this  MasonJar   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #28 
  - And never to rise again! Our hopes are  asjr   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #29 
  - Sure, That's going to happen. Tomorrow, probably.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 07:17 PM   #141 
  - WTF?  LiberalLovinLug   Jul-27-09 07:47 PM   #30 
  - Senate finance committee drops pubic option  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #31 
  - "public" , don't want jokers to start making fun of a serious matter  UndertheOcean   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #32 
  - What we will end up with for "Public" is "HMO Pools" and we know what that is...  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:54 PM   #71 
  - Big surprise. Now if only we pions will anty up more for the poor, poor executives.  MichiganVote   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #33 
  - oh no.  DesertFlower   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #34 
  - Oh yes there is. Mandatory private insurance.  Hello_Kitty   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #41 
     - i feel like crying. nt  DesertFlower   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #44 
     - Well...apparently they will give you some "kick back" on your taxes for it..  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:56 PM   #72 
     - And, if you don't buy it...  regnaD kciN   Jul-27-09 08:11 PM   #78 
        - it's their golden moment!  dana_b   Jul-27-09 08:36 PM   #84 
           - If the only thing that comes to his desk is this POS, I think he will sign it.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:53 PM   #135 
              - really?!  dana_b   Jul-28-09 06:57 PM   #137 
                 - Yes, that is really what I think. He has staked so much on "health care"  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 07:10 PM   #139 
  - Message I just sent to the White House  WatchWhatISay   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #35 
  - They know there will not be a "true champion of the working people" available in 2012.  dixiegrrrrl   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #38 
  - Obama will sell-out on health-care just like he has sold out on everything else...  Iowa   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #59 
     - go cry about it on Green underground  CTLawGuy   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #61 
  - Surprise, surprise, surprise..  Fumesucker   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #36 
  - Time for another press conference.  Skink   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #37 
  - Yes  proud2BlibKansan   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #39 
  - Here is a link to the story. I read it before coming back to DU.  Jazzgirl   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #40 
  - Here Is the AP Story Link  Sensible321   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #42 
  - It's dropping the requirement that employers provide coverage too!  Hello_Kitty   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #43 
  - The Lack of the Employer Bit Could Be A Good Thing if that Cord could be Cut Entirely  Sensible321   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #45 
     - I agree with you that insurance shouldn't be tied to employment.  Hello_Kitty   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #48 
     - Without "Portable/affordable" insurance...what do we have?  KoKo   Jul-27-09 07:58 PM   #73 
     - Uhm no  kenfrequed   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #52 
     - You have no idea what you are talking about  Sadie5   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #54 
     - Gompers (AFL) Spoke Like Bill Frist On Healthcare ...  Sensible321   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #65 
     - No.  Davis_X_Machina   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #56 
        - Thanks for the next chapter  Sensible321   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #67 
  - More reason to out Baucus from Finance Committee and put him to the same subcommittee  Hawkeye-X   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #46 
  - I rather suspect Baucus is far from the only one in government who is dirty with insurance  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 07:24 PM   #142 
  - They make there own choices.  RandomThoughts   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #47 
  - EMAIL YOUR SENATORS AND WHITEHOUSE.GOV!  No Elephants   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #49 
  - I hope they don't plan on getting re-elected. nt  bemildred   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #50 
  - Insurance companies and media are probably  RandomThoughts   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #55 
  - Any Democrat talking about going up for  madamesilverspurs   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #51 
  - He just ran in 2008, so he is not up until 2014  karynnj   Jul-27-09 08:34 PM   #83 
     - Erk, thanks.  madamesilverspurs   Jul-27-09 09:56 PM   #88 
        - Don't blame you in the least - I only know because I looked to see if he was up in 2010  karynnj   Jul-27-09 10:04 PM   #89 
           - Maybw we could set up a much-publicized fund to help candidates  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 08:00 PM   #145 
  - They just want to force us to buy private health insurance (i.e. fascist economics).  New Dawn   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #53 
  - Just fucking perfect  Libertas1776   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #57 
  - As much as I value the "pubic option". Don't panic.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #58 
  - I wouldn't be so sure...  Iowa   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #60 
  - We need to make sure this bill is DEFEATED in the Senate!!!  Faryn Balyncd   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #62 
  - The finance committee bill isn't worth supporting.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #64 
  - But, what is your understanding of the "Public Option" that will be offered?  KoKo   Jul-27-09 08:01 PM   #74 
     - The broad outlines are given in HR3200  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-27-09 11:04 PM   #90 
     - "Devil is in the details" is correct.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:43 PM   #132 
  - Here at DU we have our ideals, there on Washington Dems have their corporate payments.  DuaneBidoux   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #63 
  - Don't let it lead to a heart attack unless you have good medical insurance.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 07:30 PM   #143 
  - Are they trying to get the crabs out of the Senate?  meow2u3   Jul-27-09 07:48 PM   #66 
  - And In the Same AP Article ...  Sensible321   Jul-27-09 08:05 PM   #75 
  - They're supporting it b/c it doesn't allow Fed bargaining on drug prices.  clear eye   Jul-27-09 08:50 PM   #85 
     - Ahhh ... So Much For 'Free Trade'  Sensible321   Jul-27-09 09:40 PM   #87 
  - Take a deep breath and think  ramapo   Jul-27-09 08:11 PM   #79 
  - I understand what you say...some of it is better than NOTHING...BUT...this isn't what  KoKo   Jul-27-09 08:58 PM   #86 
  - do you have healthcare coverage? perhaps you can afford to wait.  dysfunctional press   Jul-27-09 11:23 PM   #92 
  - They are trying to play us.  Javaman   Jul-27-09 08:13 PM   #80 
  - perfect.  NoSheep   Jul-28-09 01:34 AM   #94 
  - I guess I shouldn't be surprised...  BradXXX   Jul-28-09 01:49 AM   #95 
  - Sold out once again. Fuck the traitor Dems, and their spineless enablers.  Frank Booth   Jul-28-09 02:04 AM   #96 
  - Senate Finance Committee Dropping Dem Health Goals (Public Option): AP  InfiniteThoughts   Jul-28-09 06:09 AM   #97 
  - Ohmigod. They are looking to cut Medicare, too.  Faygo Kid   Jul-28-09 06:09 AM   #98 
  - I thought we got a new president?  Skink   Jul-28-09 06:09 AM   #99 
  - We do. And just so you don't appear ignorant, this is a Senate Finance Committee bill....  Tarheel_Dem   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #112 
     - Amen!  Hulk   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #116 
  - Also dropping FSA to $2K & increasing fees on Medical Equipment  Kittycat   Jul-28-09 06:09 AM   #100 
  - perhaps they are keeping the drama in the mix or else it won't look like a hard-won fight?  tomm2thumbs   Jul-28-09 06:09 AM   #101 
  - i thought he answered that ...he has indicated that he will veto without using the words ...  InfiniteThoughts   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #107 
     - I don't see anything in the language in the article you linked that  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 07:52 PM   #144 
  - We need to call them and vote them out as they are not supporting the people and single payer.  bkkyosemite   Jul-28-09 06:09 AM   #102 
  - do both  Aragorn   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #110 
  - My God, the House bill is bad enough but I think this actually moves us backwards  dflprincess   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #103 
  - Fuck these assholes  AllentownJake   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #104 
  - Senate Dems have decided to throw the president under the bus  Doctor_J   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #105 
  - Are you venting, or do you think anything in your post has a realistic  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 08:12 PM   #146 
  - I think no legislation would be better than this POS.  IsItJustMe   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #106 
  - Unless you're one of the 49M without health care, or  Doctor_J   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #108 
  - How does this POS legislation do anything for them?  AllentownJake   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #115 
     - Please think  ramapo   Jul-28-09 09:21 AM   #120 
  - But, but, but it's BIPARTISAN! That makes it good, right?  neverforget   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #113 
  - That's why I wrote white house.gov a couple of days ago and asked for a veto.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 08:14 PM   #147 
  - well, Montanans can always vote Baucus out in 2014  Doctor_J   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #109 
  - Bipartisanship means never letting the Democrats get what they want.  neverforget   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #111 
  - FUCK YOU BAUCUS  Ed76638   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #114 
  - They want to support their insurance companies  farmboxer   Jul-28-09 06:10 AM   #117 
     - Insurance stocks rise as public option fades  SOS   Jul-28-09 06:53 PM   #136 
  - We need single payer not public option..  4dsc   Jul-28-09 09:57 AM   #121 
  - Please, if you can get off work Thurs., join the action in DC.  clear eye   Jul-28-09 10:41 AM   #123 
  - I just got a robot call from my union to support HR 3200 F*ck that!!  maryf   Jul-28-09 11:40 AM   #124 
  - Let Max know how you feel...  BlueIdaho   Jul-28-09 12:59 PM   #125 
  - Max Baucus (D-Insurance mafia and Big Pharma)  ProudDad   Jul-28-09 01:28 PM   #126 
  - I hope the Obama bashers on this board now realize who the real opponents are.  Zynx   Jul-28-09 01:30 PM   #127 
  - How about posting about the issue instead of posting about other posters?  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:14 PM   # 
  - Dupe.  No Elephants   Jul-28-09 06:14 PM   #129 
  - It worked for Bubba early on  Big_Mike   Jul-28-09 07:16 PM   #140 
 

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