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Wed Jul-22-09 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #45 |
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 (NO promise that that will be MY last Palin snark.)  |
| - White House declines to disclose visits by health industry executives |
kpete |
Jul-22-09 08:32 AM |
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Again? |
derby378 |
Jul-22-09 08:37 AM |
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I'm getting sick of reading lines like: "Citing an argument used by the Bush administration" |
ixion |
Jul-22-09 08:38 AM |
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Wouldn't he have to meet with them whether he agrees with them or not? |
The Stranger |
Jul-22-09 08:39 AM |
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what difference does it make? |
ixion |
Jul-22-09 08:42 AM |
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Are you nuts? |
WriteDown |
Jul-22-09 08:43 AM |
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hence it is not reform... |
ixion |
Jul-22-09 08:47 AM |
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Darn it.... |
WriteDown |
Jul-22-09 09:27 AM |
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lol... no worries |
ixion |
Jul-22-09 09:37 AM |
#33 |
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That's a really nice statement, NOW PROVE IT!!!!!!!!! |
pattmarty |
Jul-22-09 09:02 AM |
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By how... |
WriteDown |
Jul-22-09 09:26 AM |
#30 |
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Europe? |
Robb |
Jul-22-09 10:22 AM |
#45 |
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Quitting? |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 11:13 AM |
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I don't typically side with Write Down, but I do know that the |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:32 AM |
#47 |
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agree. point of historical relevance, first "anti-trust" use of sherman |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-23-09 04:52 PM |
#100 |
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I love it when I can agree with someone! |
ProudDad |
Jul-22-09 12:48 PM |
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What he is advocating is reform and it is in danger of being scuttled by the Rightist Media, |
The Stranger |
Jul-22-09 08:53 AM |
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"he is fighting for good reforms" |
ixion |
Jul-22-09 08:54 AM |
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Oh, so it's going to be like that. |
The Stranger |
Jul-22-09 08:57 AM |
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oh, things will change |
ixion |
Jul-22-09 09:02 AM |
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I think The Stranger is right. |
zanne |
Jul-23-09 05:42 AM |
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here's the thing, though: I don't watch broadcast media |
ixion |
Jul-23-09 06:21 AM |
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Most Americans do watch broadcast media. |
zanne |
Jul-23-09 07:36 AM |
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You make a good case for Prez mtg w/ industry execs. Why not transparency? |
clear eye |
Jul-24-09 01:29 PM |
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"Wake up" says the poster who defends secrecy in government and does not |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:09 AM |
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Oh please. |
The Stranger |
Jul-22-09 10:12 AM |
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Backatcha. "Oh, please." BTW, I notice that posters who accuse others of not |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:34 AM |
#48 |
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Only "socialism" can reform the "for profit sick care system" |
ProudDad |
Jul-22-09 12:46 PM |
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How do you breathe through all that sand? |
Zhade |
Jul-22-09 04:59 PM |
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See post #6. |
WriteDown |
Jul-22-09 09:27 AM |
#32 |
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Deleted, wrong spot |
WriteDown |
Jul-22-09 08:43 AM |
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Because we have to |
fjc |
Jul-22-09 08:44 AM |
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If covering up facts is a good thing, then I'm a monkey's uncle. Daylight my friend, is our friend. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-22-09 08:53 AM |
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What I'm seeing is a massive media blitz by the Rightists to scuttle any reform at all. |
The Stranger |
Jul-22-09 08:55 AM |
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The Repos are fighting it, of course. But the insurance companies aren't. That's because |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-22-09 09:13 AM |
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Thanks for the response. |
The Stranger |
Jul-22-09 10:14 AM |
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I haven't followed the money except to the Dems, who are getting a ton of health insurance |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-22-09 11:15 AM |
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ironic... the governemnt will subsidize |
fascisthunter |
Jul-22-09 10:23 AM |
#46 |
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It's lame, imo. |
John Q. Citizen |
Jul-22-09 03:44 PM |
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Most working taxpayers will be paying double-- |
clear eye |
Jul-24-09 02:39 PM |
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Yep, and tell me where in the hell are Obama's surrogates? |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-22-09 09:17 AM |
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Why haven't the Dems & Obama pushed to have better or any spokespesons out there |
KoKo |
Jul-22-09 11:05 AM |
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Look at the real big picture then--and the total picture. A public option is very likely to fail. |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:21 AM |
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It's been in trouble since single payer was taken off the table. |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:39 AM |
#49 |
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why should the meetings be secret? you don't answer, you divert to |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-23-09 04:54 PM |
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You are speaking truth that people don't want to hear around here. |
earth mom |
Jul-22-09 09:58 PM |
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If it makes no difference who he met with or why, then the balance should be in favor |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:05 AM |
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If he releases a list of all groups he's met with wouldn't it show he listened to ALL SIDES? |
KoKo |
Jul-22-09 11:15 AM |
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Does he have to meet with you? |
harun |
Jul-23-09 07:18 AM |
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why should it be secret, then? |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-23-09 04:48 PM |
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Change anyone? I *hear* lots of ka-ching, but no real change |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-22-09 08:45 AM |
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And you wonder why Obama is losing support?? |
4dsc |
Jul-22-09 08:46 AM |
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More of Obama's famous trasparency. |
Vidar |
Jul-22-09 08:52 AM |
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He's very transparent--you can see right through him. n/t |
QC |
Jul-22-09 11:19 AM |
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Bringing transparency in government? |
Coyote_Bandit |
Jul-22-09 08:59 AM |
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As usual I'm confused. |
Steerpike |
Jul-22-09 09:01 AM |
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You're confused because government likes to confuse us. BOTH the Secret Service and the President |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:49 AM |
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I guess I knew that. |
Steerpike |
Jul-22-09 11:24 AM |
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Transparency? |
Javaman |
Jul-22-09 09:03 AM |
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NOT cool. nt |
Captain Hilts |
Jul-22-09 09:04 AM |
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I could literally cry. I think I will be putting my time and efforts working to |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-22-09 09:10 AM |
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Sorry to say, I don't think changing election law is going to help, except for the election laws |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 10:57 AM |
#51 |
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Oh my Lord, please tell me this is not for real.... |
qanda |
Jul-22-09 09:13 AM |
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... |
xchrom |
Jul-22-09 09:13 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jul-22-09 09:17 AM |
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Where's the transparency? |
City Lights |
Jul-22-09 09:18 AM |
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You betcha! |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 11:06 AM |
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The transparency is in the betrayal. nt |
glitch |
Jul-22-09 11:09 AM |
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I think it's in the transparent hypocrisy. n/t |
QC |
Jul-22-09 11:20 AM |
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Visitors to the WH are there for many reasons... |
FloriTexan |
Jul-22-09 09:39 AM |
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WOW. Since when is it up to insurers to decide whether they can use the people's house |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 11:03 AM |
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If I were trying to get insurers to back my plan... |
FloriTexan |
Jul-22-09 11:15 AM |
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We had public White House logs for years |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 12:01 PM |
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Why is he doing this???nt |
Stuart G |
Jul-22-09 09:46 AM |
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sickening and scary, isn't it? |
nightrain |
Jul-22-09 09:52 AM |
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Sue them. Again. |
montanto |
Jul-22-09 09:52 AM |
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http://www.publicampaign.org/ Clean Elections |
Jefferson23 |
Jul-22-09 10:05 AM |
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I hear ya, but please see Reply 51. |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 11:15 AM |
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Donate to the ACLU because they are the org. bringing these suits. |
No Elephants |
Jul-22-09 11:18 AM |
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nice to see transparency in our government |
fascisthunter |
Jul-22-09 10:19 AM |
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Wheee |
Solly Mack |
Jul-22-09 11:34 AM |
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What is the White House hiding? There is nothing wrong with |
JDPriestly |
Jul-22-09 11:41 AM |
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I am disappointed... |
nradisic |
Jul-22-09 11:49 AM |
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This is wrong |
texastoast |
Jul-22-09 12:34 PM |
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Bingo. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-22-09 05:41 PM |
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Sounds like change we can believe in!! |
stranger81 |
Jul-22-09 12:35 PM |
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Same old shit, different container |
ProudDad |
Jul-22-09 12:42 PM |
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It's ok, Obama made history. n/t |
newtothegame |
Jul-22-09 12:47 PM |
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Power Corrupts. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely...(n/t) |
ProudDad |
Jul-22-09 12:49 PM |
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Yep, Obama made history... |
ProudDad |
Jul-22-09 12:50 PM |
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Here's the list |
Qutzupalotl |
Jul-22-09 03:33 PM |
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I don't like the secrecy. What are they hiding? |
glinda |
Jul-22-09 04:15 PM |
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If President Obama... |
humbled_opinion |
Jul-22-09 05:34 PM |
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Who owns the beltway? Insurance lobbyists and bank lobbyists. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-22-09 05:35 PM |
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oh great. |
progressoid |
Jul-22-09 05:55 PM |
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Didn't I just hear him say that they were sending out a list of the executives? |
drm604 |
Jul-22-09 08:19 PM |
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Obama totally tried to brush this off tonight during his speech-like it was nothing. |
earth mom |
Jul-22-09 10:01 PM |
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It was nothing... |
Tx4obama |
Jul-22-09 10:28 PM |
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List has been released |
Tx4obama |
Jul-22-09 10:27 PM |
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Did I wake up after a dream and find out McCain was really elected? |
lexanman |
Jul-22-09 10:34 PM |
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White House Discloses Meetings With Health Care Executives |
hedgehog |
Jul-22-09 10:40 PM |
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Obama Has Met At Least 27 Times With Private Health Care Industry Executives |
chatnoir |
Jul-22-09 10:46 PM |
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depends on the meaning of "declines", "disclose" and "transparency" |
change_notfinetuning |
Jul-23-09 04:58 AM |
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Donald Rumsfeld: the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-23-09 04:43 PM |
#98 |
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