Royal Oak Rog
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Tue Jul-14-09 03:47 PM
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He's what 200 and some odd days into this thing. He's pushing a bill for 9 billion dollars into the Community College system. This is not the same song and dance bullshit you refer to.
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| -Obama says lost auto jobs are gone |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jul-14-09 02:37 PM |
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So are the investors and bankers then |
sasquatch |
Jul-14-09 02:39 PM |
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What new industries? |
atreides1 |
Jul-14-09 02:40 PM |
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The Ones That Can Ship Their Jobs Overseas... |
jayfish |
Jul-14-09 03:05 PM |
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Service industry |
liberal N proud |
Jul-14-09 03:05 PM |
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Oh, and you'd all have to pay each other a living wage. |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-14-09 03:36 PM |
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can't we all just deliver pizzas to each other? |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-14-09 04:56 PM |
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It's just a gigantic lie that neoliberals have been peddling for 30 years. |
Midwestern Democrat |
Jul-15-09 09:47 PM |
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The ones people are going to |
Abq_Sarah |
Jul-16-09 03:45 PM |
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I sure wish he had taken this hard tone with Wall Street & the bankers |
DJ13 |
Jul-14-09 02:43 PM |
#3 |
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NEVER --- The DLC are Lap-Dogs to that crowd |
saigon68 |
Jul-16-09 05:49 AM |
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But that's not the tone of the speech at all |
Royal Oak Rog |
Jul-14-09 02:53 PM |
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And that's better? |
WriteDown |
Jul-14-09 03:09 PM |
#9 |
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Go retrain yourself |
Royal Oak Rog |
Jul-14-09 03:47 PM |
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So a 50 year auto worker is supposed to go to CC?! |
WriteDown |
Jul-14-09 03:55 PM |
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Yes, I'm 50 |
Royal Oak Rog |
Jul-14-09 04:05 PM |
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And what are they supposed to live on until then? |
WriteDown |
Jul-14-09 04:25 PM |
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If you are 50 years old you should have something to show for it |
snooper2 |
Jul-16-09 09:33 AM |
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maybe they "should," but many don't |
Psephos |
Jul-16-09 03:01 PM |
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50 right here, going to francis tuttle for oracle certification. |
okieinpain |
Jul-15-09 05:51 AM |
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And the fact that the IT industry is not hiring isn't a problem? |
Missy Vixen |
Jul-15-09 10:57 AM |
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our couse instructor sends stuff like this all the time. she says there is |
okieinpain |
Jul-16-09 06:49 AM |
#135 |
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Yes. |
Dappleganger |
Jul-14-09 04:12 PM |
#46 |
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So she pulled herself up by her boot straps? |
WriteDown |
Jul-14-09 04:24 PM |
#51 |
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Pretty much. |
Dappleganger |
Jul-14-09 06:24 PM |
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Er, the logic's kind of ass-backwards. |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-14-09 07:44 PM |
#68 |
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conspiracy theorist! (but of course you're right. & offshoring is policy.) |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:01 AM |
#89 |
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Exactly! You've Hit Many of the Gaping Holes In the So-Called Plan |
Demeter |
Jul-15-09 06:46 AM |
#101 |
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I found a career that is rewarding and immune from outsourcing |
Grinchie |
Jul-16-09 03:34 AM |
#127 |
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thanks for your thoughtful and thought-stimulating post n/t |
Psephos |
Jul-16-09 03:09 PM |
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Nothing wrong with that plan. Except maybe |
caseymoz |
Jul-15-09 02:51 AM |
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I teach at a communtiy college and have had |
kiva |
Jul-15-09 04:04 PM |
#114 |
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A way better and far more adequate social safety net, for starters? |
HughBeaumont |
Jul-15-09 07:42 PM |
#122 |
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so those auto workers are supposed to become teachers? |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-14-09 04:02 PM |
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The only wrong with your reasoning is that it's just circuses. |
Tansy_Gold |
Jul-14-09 10:22 PM |
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better if he pushed it into jobs. "retraining" is a 30 year scam to pump $ into student loans. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 05:55 AM |
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If DUzy's were offered for extreme cynicism .... |
Trajan |
Jul-15-09 01:04 AM |
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Exactly, and how is he supposed to eat while he's being trained? |
hamsterjill |
Jul-15-09 04:34 PM |
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I recall a previous horrific president was singing the same tune |
high density |
Jul-14-09 03:22 PM |
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Not true, Obama's put his money |
Royal Oak Rog |
Jul-14-09 03:48 PM |
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no - he's put the money into institutions that the unemployed CANNOT afford |
Donnachaidh |
Jul-14-09 04:05 PM |
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OK. |
high density |
Jul-14-09 04:08 PM |
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Looks like...."New Boss, same as the old boss" to me. n/t |
OhioChick |
Jul-14-09 04:13 PM |
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Actually, that would be OUR money. |
JeanGrey |
Jul-14-09 04:34 PM |
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Reminds me of the post-Katrina "jobs" programs. |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jul-16-09 09:44 AM |
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Agreed. Getting that Deja Vu feeling all over again. n/t |
OhioChick |
Jul-14-09 04:05 PM |
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Yep, it's the EXACT same shit. |
earth mom |
Jul-14-09 04:15 PM |
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Make good money driving a Big Rig! |
Grinchie |
Jul-16-09 03:41 AM |
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New jobs? How about any job.....this is such a crock of crap. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 03:39 PM |
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Eight years in a crater |
Royal Oak Rog |
Jul-14-09 03:51 PM |
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Patience is threadbare in Michigan and with good reason. Its time to spell that out. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 04:03 PM |
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It'd be easier to dig ourselves out if this administration would stop dumping dirt in the crater. |
Zhade |
Jul-15-09 03:53 PM |
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You mean like all the IT jobs? |
zalinda |
Jul-14-09 03:56 PM |
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i remember when it people were flying high. short-lived. the new economy of autos lasted 60 years. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:06 AM |
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Yeah, throw more money at the education industry... that'll fix it. |
Iowa |
Jul-14-09 08:29 PM |
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It's the EXACT same thing George Bush, John McCain said. |
Romulox |
Jul-15-09 10:48 AM |
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We ourselves contribute. How many people go out of their way to try to buy things produced in the US |
lindisfarne |
Jul-14-09 02:59 PM |
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The Plants are now mostly GMO |
Grinchie |
Jul-16-09 03:45 AM |
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re: Obama says lost auto jobs are gone |
rschop |
Jul-14-09 03:08 PM |
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Also gone are all of the other manufacturing jobs, and now the IT jobs |
high density |
Jul-14-09 03:11 PM |
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Those workers can be retrained too. |
WriteDown |
Jul-14-09 03:12 PM |
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Yeah, its going to take college education to wait tables and answer a phone. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 03:38 PM |
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Yes they can... |
Rebubula |
Jul-14-09 04:08 PM |
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I agree, but the flow of this thread to me is leading |
okieinpain |
Jul-15-09 06:02 AM |
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How many new languages are necessary a year. |
Grinchie |
Jul-16-09 03:56 AM |
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.net and java still running strong... |
snooper2 |
Jul-16-09 10:08 AM |
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Yep DotNet is my language of choice these days. |
Grinchie |
Jul-16-09 03:22 PM |
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you are witnessing the end stages of Capitalism |
wantoutnow |
Jul-14-09 03:18 PM |
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Capitalism wont perish, you haven't even SEEN capitalism yet...... |
galileoreloaded |
Jul-14-09 03:49 PM |
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you are correct. Capitalism is feudalism with a kinder face. |
wantoutnow |
Jul-14-09 04:36 PM |
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frantically moving assets and engaging in contingency planning |
Doremus |
Jul-14-09 06:47 PM |
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Well, without opening myself up to suit, the prevailing wisdom seems to play |
galileoreloaded |
Jul-14-09 09:11 PM |
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they plan on dropping out and coming up for air later |
Doremus |
Jul-14-09 10:08 PM |
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I hope not.....got little kids. But, my people, logistics clients if you will, |
galileoreloaded |
Jul-14-09 10:35 PM |
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the money men pay the peons to build stuff which the money men then own, & |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:21 AM |
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they might have a difficult time eating. |
Grinchie |
Jul-16-09 03:58 AM |
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What do we get left with? Whatever crumbs our overlords goddamn well feel like leaving us. |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-14-09 03:41 PM |
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Jul-14-09 03:16 PM |
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Pass crushing tariffs against Chinese imports. Michigan will happily take up the slack. nt |
onehandle |
Jul-14-09 03:16 PM |
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that'll work great when the Chinese swear off buying Treasury debt |
Psephos |
Jul-14-09 10:44 PM |
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What stuff at Wal-Mart do the lower classes need? |
brentspeak |
Jul-15-09 05:38 AM |
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we don't need their financing, in reality. & the chinese being #1 lender is as of the last couple |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:15 AM |
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That's an interesting point of view about those who want us in debt |
Psephos |
Jul-15-09 02:45 PM |
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good plan except the people passing the laws don't work for us. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:23 AM |
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RE: Lost jobs, new industry |
rschop |
Jul-14-09 03:16 PM |
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And Obama did his best to help. |
Vidar |
Jul-14-09 03:19 PM |
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We're not stupid and we're not children in Michigan. Be nice if Obama realized that. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 03:40 PM |
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I agree. I live in Michigan too. |
Vidar |
Jul-14-09 03:58 PM |
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Honestly, its hard not to feel exasperated by yet another politician who wants to preach |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 04:02 PM |
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think harder. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:24 AM |
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...the BANKING INDUSTRY! The auto industry? Forced bankruptcy, shredded union contracts. |
Romulox |
Jul-15-09 10:50 AM |
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Along with other sectors. See BuzzFlash Mailbag, August 7, 2003. |
jody |
Jul-14-09 03:22 PM |
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Pledge Allegiance to the Flag... |
Earth Bound Misfit |
Jul-15-09 06:15 AM |
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Changing economy as in we're giving your jobs to other countries thru poor trade. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 03:37 PM |
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Why should politicians worry about a tax base when their campaigns are financed by corporatists |
jody |
Jul-14-09 03:43 PM |
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Exactly right. They are all destroying this country bit by bit. |
MichiganVote |
Jul-14-09 04:04 PM |
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the west owned india & china in the 19th century. Forbes Co is the oldest corporation in |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:26 AM |
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Exactly, corporatist predators pillaged foreign countries under the protection of western military |
jody |
Jul-15-09 04:31 PM |
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Here's some new industires. |
Jkid |
Jul-14-09 03:41 PM |
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The railroad industry??? |
Psephos |
Jul-14-09 10:46 PM |
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Back to the Future, Part III, could not have been more prescient. |
amandabeech |
Jul-16-09 09:52 AM |
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could learn to be a real superior liar and go into politics |
Algorem |
Jul-14-09 03:47 PM |
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Interesting.......... |
Beacool |
Jul-14-09 03:50 PM |
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You want fries with that? |
DainBramaged |
Jul-14-09 04:10 PM |
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McDonald's isn't even hiring here. n/t |
OhioChick |
Jul-14-09 04:11 PM |
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unless WE ACCELERATE GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND INDUSTRY BUILDING |
DainBramaged |
Jul-14-09 04:13 PM |
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Guess you didn't get the memo: |
OhioChick |
Jul-14-09 04:15 PM |
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The only green jobs left are harvesting crops grown in CA et al but more crops are being grown on |
jody |
Jul-14-09 04:31 PM |
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More jobs that Americans wouldn't do, huh? |
OhioChick |
Jul-14-09 04:33 PM |
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Already many auto workers are out of work, homeless, out of society and politicians only talk & talk |
jody |
Jul-14-09 04:25 PM |
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It's funny how blue collar workers are "casualties of a changing economy".. |
girl gone mad |
Jul-14-09 04:30 PM |
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Main Street gets fucked ALWAYS |
DainBramaged |
Jul-14-09 06:00 PM |
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Main Street is treated more like Back Street. n/t |
jody |
Jul-15-09 04:42 PM |
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That IS odd, isn't it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... |
mbperrin |
Jul-14-09 06:32 PM |
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I thought Obama said he was going to work on bringing some of these jobs back |
LatteLibertine |
Jul-14-09 04:32 PM |
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the lint brush that saved flint.... |
dysfunctional press |
Jul-14-09 04:54 PM |
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What industries to replace these? The ones to be filled with H-1B |
mamaleah |
Jul-14-09 06:15 PM |
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Green and guns. |
Tim01 |
Jul-14-09 07:04 PM |
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At least he is being honest.. |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-14-09 08:09 PM |
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I'd be more impressed with, "he's being honest AND reversing the job loss" n/t |
Psephos |
Jul-14-09 10:49 PM |
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how does he reverse the job loss. n/t |
okieinpain |
Jul-15-09 06:17 AM |
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oh, please. it's not due to the hand of God, you know. it's not a natural force like |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:30 AM |
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yes sir, but I'm curious. if you had the power, what steps would you take |
okieinpain |
Jul-15-09 06:56 AM |
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I'd distribute the $12 TRILLION promised to banksters to working people. |
Romulox |
Jul-15-09 11:01 AM |
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He isn't honest at all. He has a blank check for Wall Street, but says "retrain" to Michigan. |
Romulox |
Jul-15-09 10:52 AM |
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Education is good |
blue_onyx |
Jul-14-09 09:17 PM |
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does this mean our millions (billions?) in auto bailouts are lost, too? |
wordpix |
Jul-14-09 10:53 PM |
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if you think any of that money is coming home again you need stronger meds n/t |
Psephos |
Jul-16-09 12:24 AM |
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Wealthy 1 Working Stiffs 0 |
Rex |
Jul-14-09 11:31 PM |
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I admire his balls, but he has to learn: this economy is not recovering. |
caseymoz |
Jul-15-09 02:49 AM |
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he already knows. all is on schedule for the no growth economy of the future. |
Hannah Bell |
Jul-15-09 06:31 AM |
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That's somewhat doubtful. |
caseymoz |
Jul-16-09 02:34 AM |
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so other jobs are not good enuf for ex-auto workers? .n/t |
excess_3 |
Jul-15-09 03:01 AM |
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What other jobs? |
brentspeak |
Jul-15-09 05:41 AM |
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the autoworkers could have bought GM ... |
excess_3 |
Jul-16-09 03:51 AM |
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I have to give him credit for telling it like it is. Where new jobs are going to come from, I |
raccoon |
Jul-15-09 08:42 AM |
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300 auto related jobs here gone last week in Michigan |
Mari333 |
Jul-15-09 08:49 AM |
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22% Unemployment in Michigan!!! |
kpominville |
Jul-15-09 09:19 AM |
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What are people there doing? |
Xenotime |
Jul-15-09 04:39 PM |
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"Funemployment" n/t |
Psephos |
Jul-16-09 12:23 AM |
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Cashing in their 401K's and either living off of it or |
BeatleBoot |
Jul-16-09 06:03 AM |
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In related news: ANOTHER round of taxpayer bonuses for AIG workers have been sent out! nt |
Romulox |
Jul-15-09 10:47 AM |
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I've had all the stimulus I and my descendants can afford. n/t |
jody |
Jul-15-09 04:41 PM |
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Yup and the Japanese quietly bailed out Toyota and Honda |
DainBramaged |
Jul-15-09 07:19 PM |
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"They're not "dead" - they're just pining for the FORDS!!!" |
TankLV |
Jul-15-09 07:22 PM |
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I just spewed my coffee. n/t |
amandabeech |
Jul-16-09 09:55 AM |
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They can retrain for Information technology jobs |
mule_train |
Jul-16-09 07:29 AM |
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Maybe they can retrain to work at a community college as retrainers. n/t |
Psephos |
Jul-16-09 11:45 AM |
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The taxpayers had no problem protecting Wall Street jobs whatsoever. |
Romulox |
Jul-16-09 09:45 AM |
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A tariff based on lack of environmental and labor standards in the country of origin |
amandabeech |
Jul-16-09 09:57 AM |
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that was the whole point of tarrifs |
mule_train |
Jul-16-09 02:45 PM |
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One for the no shit file. |
sarcasmo |
Jul-16-09 10:00 AM |
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Am I the only one who read the article at the link? |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-09 04:47 PM |
#151 |
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