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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 10:37 AM
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21. Ignorant fucks.
>>The 14th Amendment to the Constitution says that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Backers of the initiative contend that illegal residents are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S. and that, as a result, their U.S.-born children should not be citizens.
The drive comes as the economic downturn has prompted several states to curtail benefits for illegal immigrants.

In California, officials estimate that the state's 2.7 million illegal residents add $4 billion to $6 billion in costs to the state's roughly $105 billion budget, primarily for schools, prisons and emergency health care. They also contribute through their taxes and labor, although most research indicates that the costs to state and local governments outweigh that tax revenue.<<

It's remarkable to me that instead of seeking to balance the state's finances by taxing CA's wealthy, these scumbags instead want to take benefits away from poor, minority children. How far away from slavery is California under such a plan?
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  -Illegal immigrants, their children target of California ballot measure AlphaCentauri  Jul-14-09 12:12 AM   #0 
  - This was posted on DU days ago. And it would never be constitutional. n/t  lindisfarne   Jul-14-09 12:17 AM   #1 
  - The story also doesn't detail how the measure would curtail benefits to American children...  imdjh   Jul-14-09 01:03 AM   #11 
  - The link doesn't work. But how can benefits be denied to citizen children?  imdjh   Jul-14-09 12:19 AM   #2 
  - Works for me. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-14-09 12:20 AM   #4 
  - These crazy people would risk a public health crisis just to deny  EFerrari   Jul-14-09 12:20 AM   #3 
  - Well. if their irresponsible parents had just stayed in "Mexico" where they belong  Gormy Cuss   Jul-14-09 12:45 AM   #9 
  - Lets try to leave ungrounded racism out of this. The people are talking about illegals. Don't make  sythe200   Jul-14-09 07:21 AM   #15 
  - Well since the motives for such a proposal are not aimed to the worker in silicon valley  AlphaCentauri   Jul-14-09 09:24 AM   #18 
  - This is a dog whistle to raise money for Republican candidates.  EFerrari   Jul-14-09 03:01 PM   #32 
  - Yes they would  Taverner   Jul-14-09 02:26 PM   #31 
  - Where does he live -- I need a job.  EFerrari   Jul-14-09 03:02 PM   #33 
  - A lot of illegal immigrants are white... nt  MellowDem   Jul-14-09 09:28 PM   #40 
     - This is a Republican fundraising dog whistle.  EFerrari   Jul-15-09 03:06 AM   #41 
        - Maybe...  MellowDem   Jul-15-09 02:30 PM   #42 
  - pick your own fruits and vegetables...  madrchsod   Jul-14-09 12:22 AM   #5 
  - I've worked in all of those jobs except ag.  imdjh   Jul-14-09 12:24 AM   #6 
  - Americans will do all of that.  anonymous171   Jul-14-09 12:54 PM   #26 
  - How come if I'm born in Mexico to American parents, I'm an American citizen.  imdjh   Jul-14-09 12:26 AM   #7 
  - Any person born in Mexico acquires Mexican citizenship at birth regardless of nationality of parents  AlphaCentauri   Jul-14-09 12:44 AM   #8 
     - I was referring to the effect on my American status, but since you mentioned the Mexican law...  imdjh   Jul-14-09 12:54 AM   #10 
     - The child can choose his citizenship at age 18.  NutmegYankee   Jul-14-09 01:55 AM   #12 
        - Right, but they're still considered MExican citizens  a la izquierda   Jul-14-09 06:47 AM   #14 
           - Then again, the US considers them citizens also.  NutmegYankee   Jul-14-09 08:22 PM   #37 
  - They tried to do this with 187  Oerdin   Jul-14-09 03:40 AM   #13 
  - 187 was struck down because it denied public schooling to illegal aliens.  imdjh   Jul-14-09 12:00 PM   #23 
  - whenever times are bad people like to waste money going after those with the least power and money  JI7   Jul-14-09 07:27 AM   #16 
  - +1  anonymous171   Jul-14-09 12:54 PM   #27 
  - Hasn't california  Libertas1776   Jul-14-09 08:07 AM   #17 
  - Yes, it has, but they like government by populism.  closeupready   Jul-14-09 10:30 AM   #20 
  - Yup just about any kind of nitwit issue can get enough  Raine   Jul-14-09 08:36 PM   #38 
  - You can't deny benefits to American children...ever....  WriteDown   Jul-14-09 10:04 AM   #19 
  - Agreed, but...  rd_kent   Jul-14-09 12:08 PM   #24 
     - Sure, it may be worth revisiting...  WriteDown   Jul-14-09 12:23 PM   #25 
        - Of course.  rd_kent   Jul-14-09 01:11 PM   #28 
  - Ignorant fucks.  closeupready   Jul-14-09 10:37 AM   #21 
  - scapegoating is always easier than solving systemic problems  depakid   Jul-14-09 10:53 AM   #22 
  - Yeah, let their kids starve! It's their fault for being born in a different country!  Zhade   Jul-14-09 01:23 PM   #29 
  - What do you expect? Barbara Coe is looney toons.  primavera   Jul-14-09 02:01 PM   #30 
  - Oh Gawd, not this shit again  Raine   Jul-14-09 04:58 PM   #34 
  - People born here are citizens. They have the same rights as the initative backers.  lumberjack_jeff   Jul-14-09 05:15 PM   #35 
  - Why do we act like some populations deserve less dignity?  midnight   Jul-14-09 07:06 PM   #36 
  - These Types Saw.......  queerart   Jul-14-09 08:40 PM   #39 

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