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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:10 PM
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38. Clever tactic to use on the "old guard"
Let them keep their butts, and they'll relent on the Gays.

Both subjects are highly emotional to conservatives. They'll look at it as a trade-off, and it will allow them an ego-sparing excuse to finally accept Gay personnel.

Clever. A Machiavellian way to make progress on two fronts, but clever.

--d!
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  -Ban on tobacco urged in military RamboLiberal  Jul-10-09 11:10 AM   #0 
  - Put them in ultimate harm's way and then ban smoking as harmful?  frazzled   Jul-10-09 11:12 AM   #1 
  - Good point  RamboLiberal   Jul-10-09 11:15 AM   #4 
     - Not mention the depleted uranium and the un-named vaccines  dixiegrrrrl   Jul-10-09 11:24 AM   # 
  - I remember buying tax-free cigarettes for $ 1 US. per carton.  formercia   Jul-10-09 11:14 AM   #2 
  - It would likely bring down VA long-term health costs  Robb   Jul-10-09 11:14 AM   #3 
  - Right, and it's just military people we're talking about.  Hello_Kitty   Jul-10-09 11:17 AM   #6 
  - Wow, way to read a bunch of crap that wasn't there into my post.  Robb   Jul-10-09 11:18 AM   #9 
     - The OP is about banning smoking by the troops.  Hello_Kitty   Jul-10-09 11:52 AM   #17 
        - So  Robb   Jul-10-09 12:16 PM   #21 
           - You're a dingbat  JonLP24   Jul-10-09 12:18 PM   #22 
              - It's a long story and absolutely true. nt  Robb   Jul-10-09 12:18 PM   #23 
              - Ya both are HILARIOUS!!  JanusAscending   Jul-10-09 02:22 PM   #31 
  - Maybe not  Sgent   Jul-10-09 11:17 AM   #7 
     - the obvious side to VA medical care isn't mentioned. Some G I's can't smoke  ohio2007   Jul-11-09 12:10 PM   #41 
  - Fuck Jack Smith and his paternalistic authoritarian bullshit  Hello_Kitty   Jul-10-09 11:15 AM   #5 
  - Expect the outrage if they do decide to do this  JonLP24   Jul-10-09 11:17 AM   #8 
  - This is stupid. Bomb & bullets, but...'we're really just looking out for your long-term health".  Blaze Diem   Jul-10-09 11:30 AM   #11 
  - Let them smoke  Auggie   Jul-10-09 11:24 AM   #10 
  - AYE!! a world wide ban.  Blaze Diem   Jul-10-09 11:32 AM   #14 
     - Just to be clear,  Auggie   Jul-10-09 12:06 PM   #19 
        - If there was talk of a complete ban on smoking...  Deadric Damodred   Jul-10-09 01:16 PM   #27 
  - I am a proud Democrat but could our Party get established before  OHdem10   Jul-10-09 11:32 AM   #12 
  - As fervently anti-smoking as I am, I do not support this idea.  onehandle   Jul-10-09 11:32 AM   #13 
  - That's real smart  catbyte   Jul-10-09 11:48 AM   #15 
     - I think what onehandle was getting at...  awoke_in_2003   Jul-10-09 02:01 PM   #29 
  - I think it's wrong to deprive the military of constitutional rights. Too much  Mist   Jul-10-09 11:49 AM   #16 
  - What a ridiculous idea.  kimmylavin   Jul-10-09 11:58 AM   #18 
  - One of the good things about the military  JonLP24   Jul-10-09 12:14 PM   #20 
     - Well, that's good.  kimmylavin   Jul-10-09 12:44 PM   #25 
  - Very bad idea  edc   Jul-10-09 12:23 PM   #24 
  - How do you expect a bunch of 19/20 year old kids to worry about their long term health  davepc   Jul-10-09 12:47 PM   #26 
  - Great idea...if you want to lower the sign up rate even more.  Deadric Damodred   Jul-10-09 01:19 PM   #28 
  - Great idea. Apparently the record high suicide rate in the military isn't high enough.  Vidar   Jul-10-09 02:14 PM   #30 
  - Ban Dip  Brooklyns_Finest   Jul-10-09 02:28 PM   #32 
  - What's funny is before I was in the Army I NEVER met anyone that used dip  JonLP24   Jul-10-09 02:35 PM   #34 
  - ugh  krabigirl   Jul-10-09 02:31 PM   #33 
  - Here, go fight in a war. You may die but it sure ain't gonna be from that cancer stick!  mamaleah   Jul-10-09 02:40 PM   #35 
  - Ah, the good ole' days!  rd_kent   Jul-10-09 02:49 PM   #36 
  - I have strong negative feelings about smoking, but I'd rather they banned dip tobacco.  Aristus   Jul-10-09 02:50 PM   #37 
  - Clever tactic to use on the "old guard"  Dogmudgeon   Jul-10-09 10:10 PM   #38 
  - I'd be surprised if Gates does it. nt  MADem   Jul-11-09 12:30 AM   #39 
  - guess they want to see "nicotine fits" out in the Field  ohio2007   Jul-11-09 12:05 PM   #40 
  - I too don't smoke - but the people who daily will put their lives  24601   Jul-11-09 08:57 PM   #42 
  - As I understand it most of the Navy is already smoke free  underpants   Jul-11-09 09:09 PM   #43 
  - I'm generally in favor of banning smoking in all public places of pretty much all kinds.  Zynx   Jul-11-09 09:14 PM   #44 
 

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