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Reply #28: I'm getting flashbacks of the late 70's-early 80's [View All]

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28. I'm getting flashbacks of the late 70's-early 80's
This pattern of right-wingers in the US supporting and cooperating with ultra-right-wingers in Latin America is painfully reminiscent of the situation during the Carter administration, when fascist regimes were being supported by groups like WACL and CIS, by right-wing politicians like Jesse Helms, and by rogue elements of the CIA.

After working behind Carter's back -- and in some cases actively undermining him -- those groups went on in the early Reagan years to carry out much of the administration's illegal Latin American strategy. They supported the Contras, they cheered on death squad leaders, and they harassed and terrorized US opponents of the Latin American fascist regimes.

Many of the same people and groups are still around, on both the US and Latin American sides. Dan Burton -- mentioned in the OP -- was closely associated with Helms back in the 80's. Dana Rohrabacher is another name out of that period.

Two groups funded with taxpayer money through the National Endowment for Democracy -- the International Republican Institute and the Center for International Private Enterprise -- appear to be in close contact with the ultra-conservative Venezuelan group CEDICE. Those groups (and others on the more liberal end of the spectrum) were founded in 1983 to do openly what the CIA had been doing illegally in the way of meddling in other countries' elections. Their activities have generally been more-or-less in alignment with US foreign policy -- but now I'm getting a strong sense that they may be preparing to go rogue and start actively sabotaging Obama's policies.

Anti-communism was one of the strongest organizing principles for the Republican Party over many decades, helping bring together business interests, libertarians, and other groups that might not otherwise have had anything in common. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, the GOP has been reduced to its essentially non-existent domestic agenda and as a result has become increasingly fragmented. They'd love nothing more than to get that sort of consensus back.

In a lot of what's been going on lately, I can see seeds of an attempt to turn "anti-socialism" into a new organizing principle that applies to both foreign governments that challenge the dominance of US corporations and progressive or pro-labor policies at home. Support for the Honduran coup may not have much traction as an issue right now -- but if it helps them get their messages and their mailing lists together, it could be a harbinger of things to come.

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  A Congressional Coup Caucus emerges Judi Lynn  Jul-07-09 05:10 PM   #0 
   High stakes for Honduras  Judi Lynn   Jul-07-09 05:11 PM   #1 
   Right wing coup?  SkyDaddy7   Jul-07-09 06:54 PM   #9 
   I knew nothing of Honduran politics until this  DissedByBush   Jul-07-09 07:36 PM   #11 
   You heard it wrong  IndianaGreen   Jul-07-09 11:54 PM   #15 
   I'm repeating the facts  DissedByBush   Jul-08-09 12:07 AM   #16 
      Zelaya is not a leftist. He is establishment, but he raised the minimum wage  IndianaGreen   Jul-08-09 12:16 AM   #18 
      It was obviously about term limits  DissedByBush   Jul-08-09 06:58 PM   #32 
         How would you attempt to interpret what the author here:  Judi Lynn   Jul-08-09 07:23 PM   #38 
            Who's butting in?  DissedByBush   Jul-09-09 11:07 PM   #45 
      Facts are facts. True, but lies are also lies.  No Elephants   Jul-08-09 07:19 PM   #37 
   I agree with you!  SkyDaddy7   Jul-08-09 12:21 PM   #29 
   ARTICLE 3  AlphaCentauri   Jul-07-09 09:27 PM   #13 
   .  fascisthunter   Jul-09-09 10:17 AM   #41 
   No provisions in the Honduran constitution for kidnapping the president  Flaneur   Jul-07-09 11:40 PM   #14 
   That's the one thing I see wrong from the other side  DissedByBush   Jul-08-09 12:11 AM   #17 
   Their military admitted it was a crime, but say they will be exonerated, based upon an "end  No Elephants   Jul-08-09 07:16 PM   #36 
   Military officers putting a President on a plane in his pajamas is ALWAYS a coup!  L. Coyote   Jul-09-09 10:40 AM   #42 
   not by the military  fascisthunter   Jul-08-09 07:11 PM   #33 
   So Zelaya wants to expand the constitution in Honduras so he  midnight   Jul-08-09 01:36 AM   #21 
      Really? How do you explain that he had an expected successor who was assassinated? n/t  eridani   Jul-08-09 05:42 AM   #25 
   obama needs to make his position perfectively clear to hillary  madrchsod   Jul-07-09 05:23 PM   #2 
   He's made the right noises so far but that's no longer enough.  Vidar   Jul-07-09 06:25 PM   #8 
   Yeah, Hillary just passed the buck to Arias as "mediator". That will not work unless Zelaya  SuperTrouper   Jul-07-09 07:18 PM   #10 
      shit i read about that yesterday..... thanks for reminding me  madrchsod   Jul-07-09 09:15 PM   #12 
   Our right-wing assholes are hoping to stage a fascist coup here  santamargarita   Jul-07-09 05:31 PM   #3 
   And Here I Was, Thrilled that Progressives Were Taking Over Congress  Demeter   Jul-07-09 05:32 PM   #4 
   Dan Burton!  murielm99   Jul-07-09 05:54 PM   #5 
   Gets a TON of his campaign funds from the right-wing reactionary Miami Cubans. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jul-07-09 06:04 PM   #6 
   Our meddling in South and Central America's affairs have worked out so well....  AlbertCat   Jul-07-09 06:18 PM   #7 
   Horrors! Zelaya got generic drugs from Cuba!  IndianaGreen   Jul-08-09 12:56 AM   #19 
   Zelaya is far from a saint, but this new guy is a full blown fascist.  anonymous171   Jul-08-09 01:08 AM   #20 
   Zelaya could pass for a moderate Democrat in the US  IndianaGreen   Jul-08-09 01:44 AM   #22 
      Here's the next paragraph, well worth grasping, for the coup-supporting non-Demcrats:  Judi Lynn   Jul-08-09 03:52 AM   #23 
         You'll come to learn...  Chulanowa   Jul-08-09 05:47 AM   #26 
         that's so true -- sad, but true.  nashville_brook   Jul-08-09 07:21 AM   #27 
         oh... it hasn't gone unnoticed  fascisthunter   Jul-08-09 07:13 PM   #35 
            Not all DUers even pretend to be Dems, except to the extent that posting here implies being Dem.  No Elephants   Jul-08-09 07:23 PM   #39 
            It's easy -- those who support fascists have no problem with also being outright liars.  Zhade   Jul-10-09 12:56 AM   #46 
         wow... great find  fascisthunter   Jul-08-09 07:12 PM   #34 
            It's been completely omitted by our rigid corporate media. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jul-08-09 07:32 PM   #40 
   K&R  Solly Mack   Jul-08-09 04:43 AM   #24 
   I'm getting flashbacks of the late 70's-early 80's  starroute   Jul-08-09 12:14 PM   #28 
   That makes absolute sense. I had wondered why they kept dragging out that wildly odd "commie scare"  Judi Lynn   Jul-08-09 04:28 PM   #30 
   Please examine the photo airbrushed to remove blood from the dead protester, posted by subsuelo:  Judi Lynn   Jul-08-09 04:37 PM   #31 
   One must ask, "Is this the Pro-Narco Caucus?"  L. Coyote   Jul-09-09 10:48 AM   #43 
   The Honduran Congress made the mistake of not impeaching him.  Mudoria   Jul-09-09 11:08 AM   #44 
 

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