starroute
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Wed Jul-08-09 12:14 PM
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| 28. I'm getting flashbacks of the late 70's-early 80's |
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This pattern of right-wingers in the US supporting and cooperating with ultra-right-wingers in Latin America is painfully reminiscent of the situation during the Carter administration, when fascist regimes were being supported by groups like WACL and CIS, by right-wing politicians like Jesse Helms, and by rogue elements of the CIA.
After working behind Carter's back -- and in some cases actively undermining him -- those groups went on in the early Reagan years to carry out much of the administration's illegal Latin American strategy. They supported the Contras, they cheered on death squad leaders, and they harassed and terrorized US opponents of the Latin American fascist regimes.
Many of the same people and groups are still around, on both the US and Latin American sides. Dan Burton -- mentioned in the OP -- was closely associated with Helms back in the 80's. Dana Rohrabacher is another name out of that period.
Two groups funded with taxpayer money through the National Endowment for Democracy -- the International Republican Institute and the Center for International Private Enterprise -- appear to be in close contact with the ultra-conservative Venezuelan group CEDICE. Those groups (and others on the more liberal end of the spectrum) were founded in 1983 to do openly what the CIA had been doing illegally in the way of meddling in other countries' elections. Their activities have generally been more-or-less in alignment with US foreign policy -- but now I'm getting a strong sense that they may be preparing to go rogue and start actively sabotaging Obama's policies.
Anti-communism was one of the strongest organizing principles for the Republican Party over many decades, helping bring together business interests, libertarians, and other groups that might not otherwise have had anything in common. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, the GOP has been reduced to its essentially non-existent domestic agenda and as a result has become increasingly fragmented. They'd love nothing more than to get that sort of consensus back.
In a lot of what's been going on lately, I can see seeds of an attempt to turn "anti-socialism" into a new organizing principle that applies to both foreign governments that challenge the dominance of US corporations and progressive or pro-labor policies at home. Support for the Honduran coup may not have much traction as an issue right now -- but if it helps them get their messages and their mailing lists together, it could be a harbinger of things to come.
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A Congressional Coup Caucus emerges |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-07-09 05:10 PM |
#0 |

High stakes for Honduras |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-07-09 05:11 PM |
#1 |
 
Right wing coup? |
SkyDaddy7 |
Jul-07-09 06:54 PM |
#9 |
  
I knew nothing of Honduran politics until this |
DissedByBush |
Jul-07-09 07:36 PM |
#11 |
   
You heard it wrong |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-07-09 11:54 PM |
#15 |
    
I'm repeating the facts |
DissedByBush |
Jul-08-09 12:07 AM |
#16 |
   
Zelaya is not a leftist. He is establishment, but he raised the minimum wage |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-08-09 12:16 AM |
#18 |
    
It was obviously about term limits |
DissedByBush |
Jul-08-09 06:58 PM |
#32 |
   
How would you attempt to interpret what the author here: |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-08-09 07:23 PM |
#38 |
   
Who's butting in? |
DissedByBush |
Jul-09-09 11:07 PM |
#45 |
   
Facts are facts. True, but lies are also lies. |
No Elephants |
Jul-08-09 07:19 PM |
#37 |
   
I agree with you! |
SkyDaddy7 |
Jul-08-09 12:21 PM |
#29 |
  
ARTICLE 3 |
AlphaCentauri |
Jul-07-09 09:27 PM |
#13 |
   
. |
fascisthunter |
Jul-09-09 10:17 AM |
#41 |
  
No provisions in the Honduran constitution for kidnapping the president |
Flaneur |
Jul-07-09 11:40 PM |
#14 |
   
That's the one thing I see wrong from the other side |
DissedByBush |
Jul-08-09 12:11 AM |
#17 |
    
Their military admitted it was a crime, but say they will be exonerated, based upon an "end |
No Elephants |
Jul-08-09 07:16 PM |
#36 |
   
Military officers putting a President on a plane in his pajamas is ALWAYS a coup! |
L. Coyote |
Jul-09-09 10:40 AM |
#42 |
  
not by the military |
fascisthunter |
Jul-08-09 07:11 PM |
#33 |
 
So Zelaya wants to expand the constitution in Honduras so he |
midnight |
Jul-08-09 01:36 AM |
#21 |

Really? How do you explain that he had an expected successor who was assassinated? n/t |
eridani |
Jul-08-09 05:42 AM |
#25 |

obama needs to make his position perfectively clear to hillary |
madrchsod |
Jul-07-09 05:23 PM |
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He's made the right noises so far but that's no longer enough. |
Vidar |
Jul-07-09 06:25 PM |
#8 |
 
Yeah, Hillary just passed the buck to Arias as "mediator". That will not work unless Zelaya |
SuperTrouper |
Jul-07-09 07:18 PM |
#10 |

shit i read about that yesterday..... thanks for reminding me |
madrchsod |
Jul-07-09 09:15 PM |
#12 |

Our right-wing assholes are hoping to stage a fascist coup here |
santamargarita |
Jul-07-09 05:31 PM |
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And Here I Was, Thrilled that Progressives Were Taking Over Congress |
Demeter |
Jul-07-09 05:32 PM |
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Dan Burton! |
murielm99 |
Jul-07-09 05:54 PM |
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Gets a TON of his campaign funds from the right-wing reactionary Miami Cubans. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-07-09 06:04 PM |
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Our meddling in South and Central America's affairs have worked out so well.... |
AlbertCat |
Jul-07-09 06:18 PM |
#7 |

Horrors! Zelaya got generic drugs from Cuba! |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-08-09 12:56 AM |
#19 |

Zelaya is far from a saint, but this new guy is a full blown fascist. |
anonymous171 |
Jul-08-09 01:08 AM |
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Zelaya could pass for a moderate Democrat in the US |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-08-09 01:44 AM |
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Here's the next paragraph, well worth grasping, for the coup-supporting non-Demcrats: |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-08-09 03:52 AM |
#23 |

You'll come to learn... |
Chulanowa |
Jul-08-09 05:47 AM |
#26 |
 
that's so true -- sad, but true. |
nashville_brook |
Jul-08-09 07:21 AM |
#27 |
 
oh... it hasn't gone unnoticed |
fascisthunter |
Jul-08-09 07:13 PM |
#35 |

Not all DUers even pretend to be Dems, except to the extent that posting here implies being Dem. |
No Elephants |
Jul-08-09 07:23 PM |
#39 |

It's easy -- those who support fascists have no problem with also being outright liars. |
Zhade |
Jul-10-09 12:56 AM |
#46 |

wow... great find |
fascisthunter |
Jul-08-09 07:12 PM |
#34 |

It's been completely omitted by our rigid corporate media. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-08-09 07:32 PM |
#40 |

K&R |
Solly Mack |
Jul-08-09 04:43 AM |
#24 |

I'm getting flashbacks of the late 70's-early 80's |
starroute |
Jul-08-09 12:14 PM |
#28 |
 
That makes absolute sense. I had wondered why they kept dragging out that wildly odd "commie scare" |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-08-09 04:28 PM |
#30 |

Please examine the photo airbrushed to remove blood from the dead protester, posted by subsuelo: |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-08-09 04:37 PM |
#31 |

One must ask, "Is this the Pro-Narco Caucus?" |
L. Coyote |
Jul-09-09 10:48 AM |
#43 |

The Honduran Congress made the mistake of not impeaching him. |
Mudoria |
Jul-09-09 11:08 AM |
#44 |