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Tue Mar-02-04 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #41 |
| 45. Do you contend that you've read and understand my post? |
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News organizations are clamoring at his door. He's not answering. There are two explanations for that:
1. He's being held by a joint team of French, US and Central African Republic military and intelligence specialists who are carefully screening his contacts with the outside world, allowing him to talk only to such mouthpieces as Anderson Cooper and Charlie Rangel.
2. He doesn't want to talk to the media.
Critical thinking on the cell phone issue-your theory:
Said shadowy French/US/CAR team has kidnapped Aristide from his own palace after a brilliantly engineered coup that has the whole world fooled save DU. After his kidnapping, he's whisked away to a waiting plane. But, somehow, a brave Aristide supporter (on the plane?) slips him a cell phone. (Maybe one of the F/US/CAR operatives went to the bathroom while they were supposed to be watching him.) Aristide quietly slips away and makes speedy, desperate phone calls to Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, his lawyer, and an activist before he's discovered and his cell phone is seized. Later, he's...well...somehow able to get another cell phone and makes a secret call to CNN...well, I guess it wasn't secret...but anyway, that cell phone has been seized and Aristide is incommunicado once again!
Or: He doesn't want to talk to the press.
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| -Two versions of Aristide exile |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 12:45 PM |
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Makes sense to me |
steviet_2003 |
Mar-02-04 12:49 PM |
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You got it |
Gman |
Mar-02-04 01:02 PM |
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hmmm so Harkin is a coward now?? |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:04 PM |
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Flippant remark is all |
steviet_2003 |
Mar-02-04 05:42 PM |
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The truth does present "grave consequences", huh,... |
Just Me |
Mar-03-04 04:00 PM |
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Aristide has now talked to 40 squillion people on CNN |
DuctapeFatwa |
Mar-02-04 12:51 PM |
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You are in favor of asylum for Aristide? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 01:08 PM |
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Whatever Your View of the Second Amendment, |
ribofunk |
Mar-02-04 01:54 PM |
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I think there are probably thugs among both the pro- and anti- |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 02:25 PM |
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But I suppose |
Suspicious |
Mar-02-04 03:04 PM |
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I don't know why you would make a supposition about my opinion |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 03:51 PM |
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Maybe an unfair supposition, |
Suspicious |
Mar-02-04 05:37 PM |
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You got it right guy, and I agree with you |
0007 |
Mar-03-04 03:49 PM |
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I think "plants" are attractive in their own right,...don't you ? |
Just Me |
Mar-03-04 04:09 PM |
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The accusations of brutality & intimidation + Emmanuel Constant |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 05:44 PM |
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Great Constant links. |
JudiLyn |
Mar-02-04 07:51 PM |
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No... Sigh... Constant, a "born-again Democrat" |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 08:15 PM |
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Very odd arrangement when you think it over |
JudiLyn |
Mar-03-04 12:13 AM |
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Aristide Should Have Been Given Sanctuary in US! |
Chicago Democrat |
Mar-02-04 02:08 PM |
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Aristide was indeed a threat to US investors and business interests |
DuctapeFatwa |
Mar-02-04 03:04 PM |
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Is that why you want to grant him asylum? To help business interests? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 03:54 PM |
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For the small but shrill reading minority interested in US policy re Haiti |
DuctapeFatwa |
Mar-02-04 04:18 PM |
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So your reason for turning a blind eye to human rights abuses |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 04:25 PM |
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In case you didn't notice, our country has its own record of abuses,... |
Just Me |
Mar-03-04 04:27 PM |
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uh huh |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:43 PM |
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he's not welcome |
Tiberius |
Mar-02-04 03:06 PM |
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In a word, Bullshit! |
htuttle |
Mar-02-04 05:57 PM |
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Will you please stop peddling those lies? |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 05:47 PM |
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my boys??? hardly |
windansea |
Mar-03-04 12:18 AM |
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Difficult to think otherwise when they're ones you keep quoting to support |
Tinoire |
Mar-03-04 03:47 PM |
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original post was quotes from Senator Harkin |
windansea |
Mar-03-04 04:46 PM |
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Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps = All giving Bush & Powell the benefit |
Tinoire |
Mar-03-04 05:25 PM |
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so basically you are saying |
windansea |
Mar-03-04 05:58 PM |
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It is all a matter of perspective... |
dax |
Mar-03-04 06:56 PM |
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Welcome my brother, welcome. |
SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN |
Mar-03-04 07:19 PM |
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Your post leaves me speechless. Breathless. |
Tinoire |
Mar-03-04 07:49 PM |
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I am posting reports by respected orgs |
windansea |
Mar-03-04 07:58 PM |
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Please repost so ALL can weigh the opinions you represent |
Tinoire |
Mar-03-04 10:28 PM |
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my posts are mainly from respected orgs |
windansea |
Mar-04-04 12:08 PM |
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Outstanding perspective, dax. |
JudiLyn |
Mar-04-04 04:04 AM |
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You'd be wrong Duct-tape |
Turley |
Mar-03-04 04:55 PM |
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Not quite. |
SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN |
Mar-03-04 06:29 PM |
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Just as for Zippergate, the CBC are the only ones any balls n/t |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 12:52 PM |
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actually I saw an article yesterday quoting Rangel |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:02 PM |
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Yeah, I saw that too, Even posted that I wondered why Rangel |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 01:17 PM |
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Rangel backs off |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:17 PM |
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I sure respect Rangel more than I do Aristide. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 02:41 PM |
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Perhaps Mr. Rangel is not anxious to visit the C.A.R at this time |
DuctapeFatwa |
Mar-03-04 12:04 AM |
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Of course he resigned |
DoYouEverWonder |
Mar-02-04 01:07 PM |
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apparently Harkin doesn't see it that way |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:12 PM |
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I heard Aristide on NPR this morning |
DoYouEverWonder |
Mar-02-04 01:18 PM |
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Harkin spoke to him before CNN NPR etc |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:27 PM |
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Yeah... just like the Lithium story. Are you unable or |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 01:41 PM |
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I say Aristide is lying |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:49 PM |
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You have such a way of seeing things |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 02:08 PM |
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I heard Aristide was on CNN himself and said the document that was |
Bandit |
Mar-02-04 01:20 PM |
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sorry but I'll trust Harkin over Aristade n/t |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:28 PM |
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Well then who won the Democratic held recall election? |
Bandit |
Mar-02-04 05:42 PM |
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The WH could clear up all the BS by printing the letter and |
Say_What |
Mar-02-04 01:50 PM |
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Coercion. |
NYC |
Mar-02-04 01:07 PM |
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Rangel backs off |
Loonman |
Mar-02-04 01:14 PM |
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If he went willingly, why would he lie about it now? |
daleo |
Mar-02-04 01:25 PM |
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Pride/hubris |
Loonman |
Mar-02-04 01:26 PM |
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Bullshit. |
bobbyboucher |
Mar-02-04 01:47 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-02-04 01:47 PM |
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Quality not quantity. n/t |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 01:53 PM |
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resignation remorse |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:30 PM |
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It doesn't matter. |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 01:39 PM |
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you got that right n/t |
windansea |
Mar-02-04 01:45 PM |
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Both of you are being invited to weigh in here: |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 01:47 PM |
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I'm well aware of that invitation |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 02:15 PM |
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Good points |
Loonman |
Mar-02-04 02:28 PM |
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Aristide has been in a tenuous situtation ever since he took office |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 02:40 PM |
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Answer Why Aristide or his wife, a US Citizen, cannot leave & speak |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 01:55 PM |
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Cites? |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 02:20 PM |
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Because you must toe the party line if you are a Dem |
Loonman |
Mar-02-04 02:22 PM |
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Correction: |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 02:30 PM |
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Do you really contend that no news organizations want to interview him? |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 02:31 PM |
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Do you contend that you've read and understand my post? |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 02:41 PM |
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he doesn't want to talk to the press? |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 02:53 PM |
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There's no evidence that he's TRYING to talk to the press |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 03:05 PM |
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he's telling people he knows "to tell the world" what has happened to him |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 04:15 PM |
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OK |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 04:44 PM |
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responding to your edit |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 02:43 PM |
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Just because he's not traveling and not giving interviews |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 02:57 PM |
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Why hasn't there been a face-to-face interview? |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 03:03 PM |
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whew...OK. |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 03:11 PM |
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weapons were acknowledged by US military to be American |
eablair3 |
Mar-02-04 04:01 PM |
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Why do you find this hard to believe? |
leanings |
Mar-02-04 04:41 PM |
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You are really missing the POINT |
dax |
Mar-03-04 07:20 PM |
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But caretaker told same story to Australian press the DAY BEFORE Aristide |
lostnfound |
Mar-02-04 04:04 PM |
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Amnesty Intl. HR Report: Haiti |
Loonman |
Mar-02-04 02:40 PM |
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Stop confusing us. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 02:58 PM |
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Oh wow, look at what they said about us |
Oaf Of Office |
Mar-02-04 03:08 PM |
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And what is the conclusion you draw from that report? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Mar-02-04 03:57 PM |
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same Amnesty refused to support "The revolution will not be televised" |
rman |
Mar-04-04 04:47 AM |
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Isn't that sad? |
JudiLyn |
Mar-04-04 05:12 AM |
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I see the coup supporters are at it again |
Oaf Of Office |
Mar-02-04 03:09 PM |
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It's comforting to think that our government is not really a piece of shit |
SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN |
Mar-02-04 03:14 PM |
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That's an unfair comparison |
htuttle |
Mar-02-04 05:45 PM |
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My most sincere apologies to anyone |
SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN |
Mar-02-04 06:11 PM |
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Like a rape victim |
PATRICK |
Mar-02-04 04:12 PM |
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THere's the truth - and then there's bushco's statements. |
TankLV |
Mar-02-04 07:05 PM |
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And that about sums up this thread. |
Tinoire |
Mar-02-04 08:17 PM |
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Harkin is bushco??? |
windansea |
Mar-03-04 03:40 PM |
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Get real!! |
0007 |
Mar-03-04 03:50 PM |
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about what?? |
windansea |
Mar-03-04 03:55 PM |
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Grasping at straws, I see. |
TankLV |
Mar-04-04 12:17 PM |
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heh! |
windansea |
Mar-04-04 07:11 PM |
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Oh yeah right ... |
struggle4progress |
Mar-04-04 10:33 PM |
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"after the Bush administration send troops to support the rebels" |
rman |
Mar-04-04 04:44 AM |
#104 |