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leanings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:41 PM
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45. Do you contend that you've read and understand my post?
News organizations are clamoring at his door. He's not answering. There are two explanations for that:

1. He's being held by a joint team of French, US and Central African Republic military and intelligence specialists who are carefully screening his contacts with the outside world, allowing him to talk only to such mouthpieces as Anderson Cooper and Charlie Rangel.

2. He doesn't want to talk to the media.

Critical thinking on the cell phone issue-your theory:

Said shadowy French/US/CAR team has kidnapped Aristide from his own palace after a brilliantly engineered coup that has the whole world fooled save DU. After his kidnapping, he's whisked away to a waiting plane. But, somehow, a brave Aristide supporter (on the plane?) slips him a cell phone. (Maybe one of the F/US/CAR operatives went to the bathroom while they were supposed to be watching him.) Aristide quietly slips away and makes speedy, desperate phone calls to Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, his lawyer, and an activist before he's discovered and his cell phone is seized. Later, he's...well...somehow able to get another cell phone and makes a secret call to CNN...well, I guess it wasn't secret...but anyway, that cell phone has been seized and Aristide is incommunicado once again!

Or: He doesn't want to talk to the press.
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  -Two versions of Aristide exile windansea  Mar-02-04 12:45 PM   #0 
  - Makes sense to me  steviet_2003   Mar-02-04 12:49 PM   #1 
  - You got it  Gman   Mar-02-04 01:02 PM   #5 
     - hmmm so Harkin is a coward now??  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:04 PM   #6 
        - Flippant remark is all  steviet_2003   Mar-02-04 05:42 PM   # 
           - The truth does present "grave consequences", huh,...  Just Me   Mar-03-04 04:00 PM   #89 
  - Aristide has now talked to 40 squillion people on CNN  DuctapeFatwa   Mar-02-04 12:51 PM   #2 
  - You are in favor of asylum for Aristide?  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:08 PM   #9 
  - Whatever Your View of the Second Amendment,  ribofunk   Mar-02-04 01:54 PM   #31 
  - I think there are probably thugs among both the pro- and anti-  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 02:25 PM   #38 
     - But I suppose  Suspicious   Mar-02-04 03:04 PM   #52 
     - I don't know why you would make a supposition about my opinion  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 03:51 PM   #59 
        - Maybe an unfair supposition,  Suspicious   Mar-02-04 05:37 PM   #70 
           - You got it right guy, and I agree with you  0007   Mar-03-04 03:49 PM   #86 
              - I think "plants" are attractive in their own right,...don't you ?  Just Me   Mar-03-04 04:09 PM   #90 
     - The accusations of brutality & intimidation + Emmanuel Constant  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 05:44 PM   #72 
        - Great Constant links.  JudiLyn   Mar-02-04 07:51 PM   #78 
           - No... Sigh... Constant, a "born-again Democrat"  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 08:15 PM   #79 
              - Very odd arrangement when you think it over  JudiLyn   Mar-03-04 12:13 AM   #82 
  - Aristide Should Have Been Given Sanctuary in US!  Chicago Democrat   Mar-02-04 02:08 PM   #34 
  - Aristide was indeed a threat to US investors and business interests  DuctapeFatwa   Mar-02-04 03:04 PM   #51 
     - Is that why you want to grant him asylum? To help business interests?  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 03:54 PM   #60 
        - For the small but shrill reading minority interested in US policy re Haiti  DuctapeFatwa   Mar-02-04 04:18 PM   #66 
           - So your reason for turning a blind eye to human rights abuses  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 04:25 PM   #67 
              - In case you didn't notice, our country has its own record of abuses,...  Just Me   Mar-03-04 04:27 PM   #91 
  - uh huh  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:43 PM   #23 
  - he's not welcome  Tiberius   Mar-02-04 03:06 PM   #54 
  - In a word, Bullshit!  htuttle   Mar-02-04 05:57 PM   #75 
  - Will you please stop peddling those lies?  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 05:47 PM   #74 
     - my boys??? hardly  windansea   Mar-03-04 12:18 AM   #83 
        - Difficult to think otherwise when they're ones you keep quoting to support  Tinoire   Mar-03-04 03:47 PM   #85 
           - original post was quotes from Senator Harkin  windansea   Mar-03-04 04:46 PM   #92 
              - Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps = All giving Bush & Powell the benefit  Tinoire   Mar-03-04 05:25 PM   #94 
                 - so basically you are saying  windansea   Mar-03-04 05:58 PM   #95 
                    - It is all a matter of perspective...  dax   Mar-03-04 06:56 PM   #97 
                       - Welcome my brother, welcome.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Mar-03-04 07:19 PM   #98 
                       - Your post leaves me speechless. Breathless.  Tinoire   Mar-03-04 07:49 PM   #100 
                       - I am posting reports by respected orgs  windansea   Mar-03-04 07:58 PM   #101 
                       - Please repost so ALL can weigh the opinions you represent  Tinoire   Mar-03-04 10:28 PM   #102 
                          - my posts are mainly from respected orgs  windansea   Mar-04-04 12:08 PM   #107 
                       - Outstanding perspective, dax.  JudiLyn   Mar-04-04 04:04 AM   #103 
  - You'd be wrong Duct-tape  Turley   Mar-03-04 04:55 PM   #93 
     - Not quite.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Mar-03-04 06:29 PM   #96 
  - Just as for Zippergate, the CBC are the only ones any balls n/t  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 12:52 PM   #3 
  - actually I saw an article yesterday quoting Rangel  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:02 PM   #4 
  - Yeah, I saw that too, Even posted that I wondered why Rangel  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 01:17 PM   #13 
  - Rangel backs off  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:17 PM   #12 
     - I sure respect Rangel more than I do Aristide.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 02:41 PM   #44 
     - Perhaps Mr. Rangel is not anxious to visit the C.A.R at this time  DuctapeFatwa   Mar-03-04 12:04 AM   #81 
  - Of course he resigned  DoYouEverWonder   Mar-02-04 01:07 PM   #7 
  - apparently Harkin doesn't see it that way  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:12 PM   #10 
     - I heard Aristide on NPR this morning  DoYouEverWonder   Mar-02-04 01:18 PM   #14 
     - Harkin spoke to him before CNN NPR etc  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:27 PM   #18 
        - Yeah... just like the Lithium story. Are you unable or  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 01:41 PM   #22 
           - I say Aristide is lying  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:49 PM   #28 
              - You have such a way of seeing things  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 02:08 PM   #33 
     - I heard Aristide was on CNN himself and said the document that was  Bandit   Mar-02-04 01:20 PM   #15 
        - sorry but I'll trust Harkin over Aristade n/t  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:28 PM   #19 
        - Well then who won the Democratic held recall election?  Bandit   Mar-02-04 05:42 PM   #71 
        - The WH could clear up all the BS by printing the letter and  Say_What   Mar-02-04 01:50 PM   #29 
  - Coercion.  NYC   Mar-02-04 01:07 PM   #8 
  - Rangel backs off  Loonman   Mar-02-04 01:14 PM   #11 
  - If he went willingly, why would he lie about it now?  daleo   Mar-02-04 01:25 PM   #16 
  - Pride/hubris  Loonman   Mar-02-04 01:26 PM   #17 
  - Bullshit.  bobbyboucher   Mar-02-04 01:47 PM   #26 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-02-04 01:47 PM   #27 
     - Quality not quantity. n/t  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 01:53 PM   #30 
  - resignation remorse  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:30 PM   #20 
  - It doesn't matter.  leanings   Mar-02-04 01:39 PM   #21 
  - you got that right n/t  windansea   Mar-02-04 01:45 PM   #24 
  - Both of you are being invited to weigh in here:  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 01:47 PM   #25 
     - I'm well aware of that invitation  leanings   Mar-02-04 02:15 PM   #35 
        - Good points  Loonman   Mar-02-04 02:28 PM   #39 
        - Aristide has been in a tenuous situtation ever since he took office  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 02:40 PM   #43 
  - Answer Why Aristide or his wife, a US Citizen, cannot leave & speak  eablair3   Mar-02-04 01:55 PM   #32 
  - Cites?  leanings   Mar-02-04 02:20 PM   #36 
     - Because you must toe the party line if you are a Dem  Loonman   Mar-02-04 02:22 PM   #37 
     - Correction:  leanings   Mar-02-04 02:30 PM   #40 
     - Do you really contend that no news organizations want to interview him?  eablair3   Mar-02-04 02:31 PM   #41 
     - Do you contend that you've read and understand my post?  leanings   Mar-02-04 02:41 PM   #45 
        - he doesn't want to talk to the press?  eablair3   Mar-02-04 02:53 PM   #47 
           - There's no evidence that he's TRYING to talk to the press  leanings   Mar-02-04 03:05 PM   #53 
              - he's telling people he knows "to tell the world" what has happened to him  eablair3   Mar-02-04 04:15 PM   #65 
                 - OK  leanings   Mar-02-04 04:44 PM   #69 
     - responding to your edit  eablair3   Mar-02-04 02:43 PM   #46 
     - Just because he's not traveling and not giving interviews  leanings   Mar-02-04 02:57 PM   #48 
        - Why hasn't there been a face-to-face interview?  eablair3   Mar-02-04 03:03 PM   #50 
           - whew...OK.  leanings   Mar-02-04 03:11 PM   #57 
              - weapons were acknowledged by US military to be American  eablair3   Mar-02-04 04:01 PM   #62 
                 - Why do you find this hard to believe?  leanings   Mar-02-04 04:41 PM   #68 
     - You are really missing the POINT  dax   Mar-03-04 07:20 PM   #99 
  - But caretaker told same story to Australian press the DAY BEFORE Aristide  lostnfound   Mar-02-04 04:04 PM   #63 
  - Amnesty Intl. HR Report: Haiti  Loonman   Mar-02-04 02:40 PM   #42 
  - Stop confusing us.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 02:58 PM   #49 
  - Oh wow, look at what they said about us  Oaf Of Office   Mar-02-04 03:08 PM   #55 
  - And what is the conclusion you draw from that report?  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 03:57 PM   #61 
  - same Amnesty refused to support "The revolution will not be televised"  rman   Mar-04-04 04:47 AM   #105 
     - Isn't that sad?  JudiLyn   Mar-04-04 05:12 AM   #106 
  - I see the coup supporters are at it again  Oaf Of Office   Mar-02-04 03:09 PM   #56 
  - It's comforting to think that our government is not really a piece of shit  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Mar-02-04 03:14 PM   #58 
     - That's an unfair comparison  htuttle   Mar-02-04 05:45 PM   #73 
        - My most sincere apologies to anyone  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Mar-02-04 06:11 PM   #76 
  - Like a rape victim  PATRICK   Mar-02-04 04:12 PM   #64 
  - THere's the truth - and then there's bushco's statements.  TankLV   Mar-02-04 07:05 PM   #77 
  - And that about sums up this thread.  Tinoire   Mar-02-04 08:17 PM   #80 
  - Harkin is bushco???  windansea   Mar-03-04 03:40 PM   #84 
     - Get real!!  0007   Mar-03-04 03:50 PM   #87 
        - about what??  windansea   Mar-03-04 03:55 PM   #88 
           - Grasping at straws, I see.  TankLV   Mar-04-04 12:17 PM   #108 
              - heh!  windansea   Mar-04-04 07:11 PM   #109 
                 - Oh yeah right ...  struggle4progress   Mar-04-04 10:33 PM   #110 
  - "after the Bush administration send troops to support the rebels"  rman   Mar-04-04 04:44 AM   #104 

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