Terry in Austin
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Tue Jun-30-09 02:44 PM
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Fusion offers the prospect of virtually unlimited, cheap energy. Okay.
Aside from the fact that practical fusion seems to stay 25 years in the future, few ever question the idea that unlimited, cheap energy is A Good Thing. But we need to consider the fact that it was the abundant, cheap energy of oil that drove overpopulation, globalization, and industrial overshoot.
Fusion would mean more of the same, guaranteeing that we would slam up hard against the natural limits we're already chafing at.
Yeah, it's nice to have cars and air conditioning, but the place is a mess!
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| -Ontario drops plans for 2 new nuclear reactors |
bananas |
Jun-30-09 02:48 AM |
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"the price was too high"?? |
jpak |
Jun-30-09 07:27 AM |
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Liability is too high |
underpants |
Jun-30-09 05:54 PM |
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That is too bad |
MARALE |
Jun-30-09 07:59 AM |
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"Clean Energy?" |
Jimbo909 |
Jun-30-09 08:36 AM |
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Welcome to D.U. Jimbo909 |
Auggie |
Jun-30-09 08:55 AM |
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Those boondoggle nukes cost US ratepayers $112 billion |
jpak |
Jun-30-09 09:09 AM |
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Welcome to DU! |
Strong Atheist |
Jun-30-09 02:02 PM |
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Not to mention the front matter of your phone book |
KamaAina |
Jun-30-09 05:49 PM |
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Recylced Uranium |
enviralment |
Jul-02-09 09:21 AM |
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You might want to check it out... |
ProudDad |
Jul-03-09 07:14 PM |
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Compared to what? |
enviralment |
Jul-06-09 10:36 AM |
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Nothing clean about nuclear power |
madokie |
Jun-30-09 08:43 AM |
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So what should we use? Wind and solar won't cut it, and even wind |
kegler14 |
Jun-30-09 08:52 AM |
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"Wind and solar won't cut it" - nonsense |
jpak |
Jun-30-09 09:04 AM |
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You ignore the differences in power usage... |
WriteDown |
Jun-30-09 09:14 AM |
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As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. |
Tesha |
Jun-30-09 05:47 PM |
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Science isn't your forte is it? |
WriteDown |
Jun-30-09 10:40 PM |
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Science isn't yours. |
bananas |
Jul-01-09 05:26 AM |
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Link? |
WriteDown |
Jul-01-09 07:31 AM |
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Maybe the wind turbine at your neighbor's house can't power an arc welder. |
Tesha |
Jul-01-09 11:38 AM |
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Ugh... |
WriteDown |
Jul-01-09 01:00 PM |
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You're only making things worse for yourself. |
Tesha |
Jul-01-09 03:05 PM |
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They are truly amazing... |
WriteDown |
Jul-01-09 03:18 PM |
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Placed in the right locations, the wind is pretty reliable. |
Tesha |
Jul-01-09 03:45 PM |
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My offer of proof... |
WriteDown |
Jul-01-09 04:29 PM |
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In other words, what you're saying is that "(You) have no idea what you're talking about". |
Tesha |
Jul-01-09 04:38 PM |
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Look at the puppy!! |
WriteDown |
Jul-01-09 04:45 PM |
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You're right |
ProudDad |
Jul-03-09 07:22 PM |
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Denmark and wind |
enviralment |
Jul-02-09 10:07 AM |
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You don't know much about what's going on, do you? |
ProudDad |
Jul-03-09 07:19 PM |
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ahh - tell that to the FRENCH - they have been using solar for HEAVY INDUSTRIAL for DEDCADES... |
TankLV |
Jul-02-09 01:53 AM |
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Odd... |
WriteDown |
Jul-02-09 09:26 AM |
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the french and nuclear |
enviralment |
Jul-02-09 09:55 AM |
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The French have one of the largest and most powerful solar plant that has been specifically powering |
TankLV |
Jul-03-09 04:34 PM |
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My electric comes from Nuclear. |
winter999 |
Jun-30-09 09:24 AM |
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you know what you can do with your WASTE... |
TankLV |
Jul-02-09 01:55 AM |
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And photovoltaics are made from completely clean unicorn farts. |
AtheistCrusader |
Jun-30-09 09:58 AM |
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Unicorn farts? Really! I never knew. Thanks! |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Jun-30-09 11:01 AM |
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Yes, there are pros and cons to all energy sources |
MARALE |
Jul-01-09 01:27 PM |
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Can't base-load with wind. |
enviralment |
Jul-02-09 09:39 AM |
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Ugly is in the eye of the can't do it's |
madokie |
Jun-30-09 09:04 AM |
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Yes, the clean white lines of the turbines are much more attractive than |
mbperrin |
Jun-30-09 09:31 AM |
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Oh yeah |
madokie |
Jun-30-09 09:48 AM |
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Have they figured out how to |
winter999 |
Jun-30-09 09:51 AM |
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What a Quixotic post. |
boppers |
Jul-03-09 04:59 PM |
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I was wrong about the birds. But I sure as hell don't want them on my mountains. |
kegler14 |
Jun-30-09 01:24 PM |
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Yeah, right. I live in the mountains. In that setting, turbines are just as ugly |
kegler14 |
Jun-30-09 01:18 PM |
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What should we use to what? |
Terry in Austin |
Jun-30-09 02:56 PM |
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Power down |
ProudDad |
Jul-03-09 07:15 PM |
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thanks |
donquijoterocket |
Jun-30-09 11:24 AM |
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The only "right way" to do nuclear is through the fusion process. |
NinetySix |
Jun-30-09 10:39 AM |
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Good luck with that |
Terry in Austin |
Jun-30-09 02:44 PM |
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Practical fusion is a lot closer now than it has been. |
Tesha |
Jun-30-09 05:50 PM |
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I expect Ontario is looking |
GDAEx2 |
Jun-30-09 08:31 AM |
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Private sector failings |
enviralment |
Jul-02-09 09:30 AM |
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good - sanity reigns in Canada |
ensho |
Jun-30-09 09:43 AM |
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Jini's out of the bottle. It'll never go back in. |
winter999 |
Jun-30-09 09:44 AM |
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Pff, it was just a scam to hide the country's nuclear weapons program anyway |
HEyHEY |
Jun-30-09 09:46 AM |
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Now |
ImOnlySleeping |
Jun-30-09 10:10 AM |
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Oh, they'll pay... they'll ALLLL pay. |
HEyHEY |
Jun-30-09 10:32 AM |
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good -- nt |
xchrom |
Jun-30-09 10:09 AM |
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They want more federal assistance because of the way the economy is as a result of the recession. n/ |
Dave From Canada |
Jun-30-09 10:36 AM |
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Good - let's wait for new technology |
TrogL |
Jun-30-09 12:12 PM |
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Three-part post by FogerRox the other day |
bananas |
Jun-30-09 05:32 PM |
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It's silly to keep relying on depleting resources... (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Jul-03-09 07:12 PM |
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Everything is depleting |
enviralment |
Jul-06-09 10:41 AM |
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