noiretextatique
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Mon Jun-29-09 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
| 93. why would he be "scared"? |
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all the suspects were subdued and handcuffed, and he surrounded by cops on the platform. they were armed, the kids weren't. what the hell did he have to be scared about?
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| -Candidate to confront deputies over raid |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 10:59 AM |
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No replies -- I guess Michael is more important than partisan police brutality |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 11:23 AM |
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Not At All |
atreides1 |
Jun-29-09 11:47 AM |
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I need to go find the copy of the police report ... |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 12:44 PM |
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This is insignificant |
Tempest |
Jun-29-09 12:13 PM |
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Police pepper spraying old women to break up a Democratic fundraiser |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:00 PM |
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It's significant..I'm glad |
Cha |
Jun-29-09 05:20 PM |
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sue em |
MorganaSeawalker |
Jun-29-09 12:06 PM |
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Welcome to DU!! n/t |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:49 PM |
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I've Always Loved How The Police Are Able To Manufacture... |
jayfish |
Jun-29-09 12:10 PM |
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Lots of thugs in Police Depts |
saigon68 |
Jun-29-09 03:03 PM |
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lol broad brush much, you do realise that the average cop deals with scumbags all the time |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:08 PM |
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when I'm watching COPS and they are yelling "stop resisting" |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:26 PM |
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Obviously you have never been in a position to have your ass kicked |
saigon68 |
Jun-29-09 08:03 PM |
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wow ive to use the spellcheck, i guess you won the argument |
vadawg |
Jun-30-09 12:51 PM |
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Poor widdle Deputy, he was scared by a bunch of sexagenarian women. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 12:14 PM |
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Police report: "regarding a Loud Democratic Rally with Loud Speakers" |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 12:51 PM |
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9pm and loudspeakers.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:06 PM |
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Did you read the article? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:16 PM |
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All the more reason to rent a conference room |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:22 PM |
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Bullshit. There are times you have to stand up for yourself. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:28 PM |
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Yep, that place is called court.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:31 PM |
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bingo, the place to argue is in court not whilst you are being arrested |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:33 PM |
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I'll have to remember to not invite you to any parties |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:34 PM |
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Nothing is clear, and I threw stupid parties.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:43 PM |
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The idiot reporting the party would have called on churchmice. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:48 PM |
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I would bet the police |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:51 PM |
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delete -- dupe |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:34 PM |
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They dispatched a helicopter for a noise complaint? That's pretty odd. n/t |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:32 PM |
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nah i think you will find the helicopter was dispatched once it became an assault on an officer |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:34 PM |
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I've got another question that I posted up thread: |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:56 PM |
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no idea, could be a member of a mobile crisis unit with the deputy |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:07 PM |
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“We didn't hear anything until the sheriff came, with eight patrol cars and a helicopter,” |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jun-30-09 08:22 AM |
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Yeah, acting like an ass makes it worse -- as this asshole cop found out. |
damntexdem |
Jun-29-09 01:36 PM |
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I have been to several fundraisers, none were in yards. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:45 PM |
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CH? |
WriteDown |
Jun-30-09 01:01 PM |
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The noise ordinance kicks in at 10 p.m. |
Joanie Baloney |
Jun-29-09 02:22 PM |
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Coincidentally I was just at a party in North County San Diego a week ago with the cops called... |
cascadiance |
Jun-29-09 06:17 PM |
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"Clinician"???? That's a PD title? |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:30 PM |
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I live down the street. I just got raided five days ago. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:12 PM |
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hell im glad they didnt take your word for it and came in to your house |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:17 PM |
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Jun-29-09 01:20 PM |
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Exigent circumstances are required. |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:25 PM |
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and a belief that someone may be in the house and in danger is exigent circumstances |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:28 PM |
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I was NOT aggressive. I am a 48 year old with hearth failure |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:33 PM |
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Cops define any exercise of fourth or fifth amendment rights as "aggressive" |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:48 PM |
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Indeed they do. The cop gave me some advice as he left. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:52 PM |
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and on the other side, you defend me not going into the whackjobs house if i believe there is a miss |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:53 PM |
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So we live in a true police state then. |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:11 PM |
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yes you have recourse, but atttacking me because i believe that someone in your home may need aid |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:16 PM |
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You have outlined a perfect harrassment tool. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:22 PM |
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the bottom line is if you want to come in, you can make up any story you want |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:24 PM |
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yep im perfectly happy in my job, would do it for free probuably |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:33 PM |
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So how long would it take to pick up your cell phone and call for a warrant? |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 02:57 PM |
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do you really need to me to say more time than it takes for a person to bleed out |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:02 PM |
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Defense from what? |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 02:21 PM |
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"Police are subject to the same laws we are." |
mrbarber |
Jun-29-09 04:21 PM |
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If it is truly thought to be a smoking gun, then the person making the original accusation should be |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:18 PM |
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yeah right, got to be dumbest idea ever, hey little old lady can you come over to the meth lab |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:26 PM |
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Then explain why the hell even have a bill of rights? |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:30 PM |
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i dont know your particular circumstance and with only one side of the story |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:40 PM |
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I will grant that in the party instance, they were not well behaved, entitled |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:45 PM |
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dosent matter if the original call was from a dem hater |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:55 PM |
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You're assuming the cops didn't lie, which is fucking bullshit. |
Zhade |
Jun-29-09 03:47 PM |
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nm |
Zhade |
Jun-29-09 03:44 PM |
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lol wolfie n/t |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:48 PM |
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You cant stop them in your yard.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:55 PM |
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Wow. Do you think maybe it's the same guy filing the complaints? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:18 PM |
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Jun-29-09 01:25 PM |
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they really fucked up by arrested two 60+ yo women |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 03:50 PM |
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"That is land of the uber rich." |
WriteDown |
Jun-30-09 02:23 PM |
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Someone yelling homophobic comments at a fundraising party in a private home ... |
damntexdem |
Jun-29-09 01:32 PM |
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Yeah but all the law and order types think you advance the cause |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:42 PM |
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lol then if i pull you over on a traffic stop and you wont co operate then expect to spend |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:46 PM |
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I have a perfect record. A perfect driving record. I always treat police as respected. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:56 PM |
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The police always demand respect but seldom return the favor |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:02 PM |
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This. |
Ignis |
Jun-30-09 07:43 PM |
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My car is not my home. And unfortunately does not enjoy the same protections |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:57 PM |
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I'm sorry to inform you but you have no fourth amendment protection against illegal search and or |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:04 PM |
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But, but, but, if you just do what the cop says, you can take it up in court |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:17 PM |
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okay im going to do a PSA here you may not like it or agree |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:23 PM |
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And you would have agreed, just like the cops that I was aperfect |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:37 PM |
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when two cops pulled me over for a bogus traffic violation |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 03:53 PM |
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thats something else we get used to, but im still going to be in charge |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:58 PM |
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they didn't control the encounter...i did |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 05:05 PM |
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well all i can say is if i tell you to stand on the sidewalk and you dont, then im taking you to the |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:10 PM |
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if you racially profile me and pull me over for no reason |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 06:15 PM |
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Yep, that would be the clerk of courts (civil). |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 02:24 PM |
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Yes that sounds very nice on paper |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:38 PM |
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You will get to a judge.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 02:44 PM |
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And how safe are you once you slam a cop? |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:41 PM |
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Sure it isn't Lt Dangle? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:55 PM |
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Providing you have a spare $30,000 for legal fees. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 03:08 PM |
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Or a federal case (no cost to you) |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 03:14 PM |
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I have little sympathy for law "enforcement" |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:14 PM |
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In the US a police officer is civilly liable for action on duty |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 03:17 PM |
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It is not easy to go after government run enforcement agencies. |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:18 PM |
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yup, we can have our asses sued, the only protection we have is good faith clauses |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:20 PM |
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We've just seen how liable one is for running down three cyclists. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 03:23 PM |
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the BART case is a strange one, our squad was talking about it |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:43 PM |
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Either that or he got scared like the one here and lost it. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 03:46 PM |
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why would he be "scared"? |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 03:55 PM |
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yeah it can happen, especially with mobs, even old people |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:56 PM |
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When he walked inside he knew he had steped on his dick. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 04:03 PM |
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could be, or it could have went down as he said, i guess once all the witnesses are questioned |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:07 PM |
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Agreed -- Truce |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 04:08 PM |
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Did the woman have |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-29-09 11:24 PM |
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No idea what the laws are there, but if in the lawful performance of my duties |
vadawg |
Jun-30-09 12:57 PM |
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To me this is the important point |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-30-09 03:33 PM |
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i would say yes were i am, how am i meant to know that you are the owner |
vadawg |
Jun-30-09 03:40 PM |
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Is Frank White a topic of your squadroom discussions? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 04:33 PM |
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no idea what the case is about, not one we have talked about |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:39 PM |
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LOL!! I just now noticed your sig line! |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 05:29 PM |
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Why would he have drawn his tazer in the first place? |
Fumesucker |
Jun-29-09 04:38 PM |
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I was on the jury of a case with similarities |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:20 PM |
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yup nice job by the deputy, the manwas an ass and broke the law |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:21 PM |
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yeah he was an ass because he dared to question the absolute authority of the police |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:39 PM |
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Fox "News" is always looking for authoritarian apologists. |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:42 PM |
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lol if you dont see why the deputy had an obligation to check on the kids then you are beyond help |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:46 PM |
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Because -- in this case--the prosecution could not show |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 04:23 PM |
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I would happily get the charge thrown out, probuably would nolle prosse it myself |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:28 PM |
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Well you're a Democrat so you probably only use your powers for good |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 05:03 PM |
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yup i can detain you if i have probable cause, not just for shits and giggles |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:13 PM |
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honestl;y most of the guys i work with whether dems, pubs, veterans, etc |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:16 PM |
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If the kids proved to be fine, I can't believe that a D.A. actually brought this to trial |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:36 PM |
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TPM interview with Busby |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-29-09 03:22 PM |
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I believe her anyday over a bureaucrat with a gun. |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:38 PM |
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lol yes because politicians unlike law enforcement never lie to the public |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:44 PM |
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If so, why do you automatically take the cops' side? Oh, you protect your own - even the liars. |
Zhade |
Jun-29-09 03:53 PM |
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and you automatically take the other side, so what , you hate cops fine |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:03 PM |
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Thanks for that! |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:54 PM |
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The cops will get away with it. |
mrbarber |
Jun-29-09 04:35 PM |
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WTF! Police brutality at a |
Cha |
Jun-29-09 05:18 PM |
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for a "noise complaint" they showed up with several deputies, and a helicopter, & peppered sprayed |
JohnWxy |
Jun-30-09 01:11 PM |
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It is getting a lot of traction here in the local media |
MindPilot |
Jun-30-09 04:23 PM |
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Kick |
JonLP24 |
Jul-01-09 01:34 AM |
#135 |
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