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Mon Jun-29-09 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #25 |
| 29. Nothing is clear, and I threw stupid parties.. |
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to the point of having a first name basis with local police. Not acting like an ass kept me out of jail and court. For a while I was the guy whose buddies threw up in your driveway and ran over your mailbox. At some point, probably while working second shift, I got the idea the idea that I need sleep, and that shit wasn't funny. Neighborhoods are not the place for a 40 man party with a speaker. If you do that you should at least talk to your neighbors and invite them and or get them to agree to it. That is what I do when I have events at my house. July 4, will be 18 drunk doctors and their wives , probably still running over someone's mailbox and talking about disgusting shit in front of normal people. BUT my neighbors are invited and are cool with the event.
If there was a problem child I would go rent a place or just not to it. As for the political slant I dont think that was confirmed. I bet the conversations between officers is taped..
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MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 10:59 AM |
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No replies -- I guess Michael is more important than partisan police brutality |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 11:23 AM |
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Not At All |
atreides1 |
Jun-29-09 11:47 AM |
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I need to go find the copy of the police report ... |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 12:44 PM |
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This is insignificant |
Tempest |
Jun-29-09 12:13 PM |
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Police pepper spraying old women to break up a Democratic fundraiser |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:00 PM |
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It's significant..I'm glad |
Cha |
Jun-29-09 05:20 PM |
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sue em |
MorganaSeawalker |
Jun-29-09 12:06 PM |
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Welcome to DU!! n/t |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:49 PM |
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I've Always Loved How The Police Are Able To Manufacture... |
jayfish |
Jun-29-09 12:10 PM |
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Lots of thugs in Police Depts |
saigon68 |
Jun-29-09 03:03 PM |
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lol broad brush much, you do realise that the average cop deals with scumbags all the time |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:08 PM |
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when I'm watching COPS and they are yelling "stop resisting" |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:26 PM |
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Obviously you have never been in a position to have your ass kicked |
saigon68 |
Jun-29-09 08:03 PM |
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wow ive to use the spellcheck, i guess you won the argument |
vadawg |
Jun-30-09 12:51 PM |
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Poor widdle Deputy, he was scared by a bunch of sexagenarian women. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 12:14 PM |
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Police report: "regarding a Loud Democratic Rally with Loud Speakers" |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 12:51 PM |
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9pm and loudspeakers.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:06 PM |
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Did you read the article? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:16 PM |
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All the more reason to rent a conference room |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:22 PM |
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Bullshit. There are times you have to stand up for yourself. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:28 PM |
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Yep, that place is called court.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:31 PM |
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bingo, the place to argue is in court not whilst you are being arrested |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:33 PM |
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I'll have to remember to not invite you to any parties |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:34 PM |
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Nothing is clear, and I threw stupid parties.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:43 PM |
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The idiot reporting the party would have called on churchmice. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:48 PM |
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I would bet the police |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:51 PM |
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delete -- dupe |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:34 PM |
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They dispatched a helicopter for a noise complaint? That's pretty odd. n/t |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:32 PM |
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nah i think you will find the helicopter was dispatched once it became an assault on an officer |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:34 PM |
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I've got another question that I posted up thread: |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:56 PM |
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no idea, could be a member of a mobile crisis unit with the deputy |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:07 PM |
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“We didn't hear anything until the sheriff came, with eight patrol cars and a helicopter,” |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jun-30-09 08:22 AM |
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Yeah, acting like an ass makes it worse -- as this asshole cop found out. |
damntexdem |
Jun-29-09 01:36 PM |
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I have been to several fundraisers, none were in yards. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:45 PM |
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CH? |
WriteDown |
Jun-30-09 01:01 PM |
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The noise ordinance kicks in at 10 p.m. |
Joanie Baloney |
Jun-29-09 02:22 PM |
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Coincidentally I was just at a party in North County San Diego a week ago with the cops called... |
cascadiance |
Jun-29-09 06:17 PM |
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"Clinician"???? That's a PD title? |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:30 PM |
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I live down the street. I just got raided five days ago. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:12 PM |
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hell im glad they didnt take your word for it and came in to your house |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:17 PM |
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Jun-29-09 01:20 PM |
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Exigent circumstances are required. |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:25 PM |
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and a belief that someone may be in the house and in danger is exigent circumstances |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:28 PM |
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I was NOT aggressive. I am a 48 year old with hearth failure |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:33 PM |
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Cops define any exercise of fourth or fifth amendment rights as "aggressive" |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:48 PM |
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Indeed they do. The cop gave me some advice as he left. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:52 PM |
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and on the other side, you defend me not going into the whackjobs house if i believe there is a miss |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:53 PM |
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So we live in a true police state then. |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:11 PM |
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yes you have recourse, but atttacking me because i believe that someone in your home may need aid |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:16 PM |
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You have outlined a perfect harrassment tool. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:22 PM |
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the bottom line is if you want to come in, you can make up any story you want |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:24 PM |
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yep im perfectly happy in my job, would do it for free probuably |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:33 PM |
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So how long would it take to pick up your cell phone and call for a warrant? |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 02:57 PM |
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do you really need to me to say more time than it takes for a person to bleed out |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:02 PM |
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Defense from what? |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 02:21 PM |
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"Police are subject to the same laws we are." |
mrbarber |
Jun-29-09 04:21 PM |
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If it is truly thought to be a smoking gun, then the person making the original accusation should be |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:18 PM |
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yeah right, got to be dumbest idea ever, hey little old lady can you come over to the meth lab |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:26 PM |
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Then explain why the hell even have a bill of rights? |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:30 PM |
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i dont know your particular circumstance and with only one side of the story |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:40 PM |
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I will grant that in the party instance, they were not well behaved, entitled |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:45 PM |
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dosent matter if the original call was from a dem hater |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:55 PM |
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You're assuming the cops didn't lie, which is fucking bullshit. |
Zhade |
Jun-29-09 03:47 PM |
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nm |
Zhade |
Jun-29-09 03:44 PM |
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lol wolfie n/t |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:48 PM |
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You cant stop them in your yard.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 01:55 PM |
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Wow. Do you think maybe it's the same guy filing the complaints? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:18 PM |
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Jun-29-09 01:25 PM |
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they really fucked up by arrested two 60+ yo women |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 03:50 PM |
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"That is land of the uber rich." |
WriteDown |
Jun-30-09 02:23 PM |
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Someone yelling homophobic comments at a fundraising party in a private home ... |
damntexdem |
Jun-29-09 01:32 PM |
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Yeah but all the law and order types think you advance the cause |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:42 PM |
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lol then if i pull you over on a traffic stop and you wont co operate then expect to spend |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 01:46 PM |
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I have a perfect record. A perfect driving record. I always treat police as respected. |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 01:56 PM |
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The police always demand respect but seldom return the favor |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:02 PM |
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This. |
Ignis |
Jun-30-09 07:43 PM |
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My car is not my home. And unfortunately does not enjoy the same protections |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 01:57 PM |
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I'm sorry to inform you but you have no fourth amendment protection against illegal search and or |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:04 PM |
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But, but, but, if you just do what the cop says, you can take it up in court |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:17 PM |
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okay im going to do a PSA here you may not like it or agree |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 02:23 PM |
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And you would have agreed, just like the cops that I was aperfect |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:37 PM |
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when two cops pulled me over for a bogus traffic violation |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 03:53 PM |
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thats something else we get used to, but im still going to be in charge |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:58 PM |
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they didn't control the encounter...i did |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 05:05 PM |
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well all i can say is if i tell you to stand on the sidewalk and you dont, then im taking you to the |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:10 PM |
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if you racially profile me and pull me over for no reason |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 06:15 PM |
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Yep, that would be the clerk of courts (civil). |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 02:24 PM |
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Yes that sounds very nice on paper |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:38 PM |
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You will get to a judge.. |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 02:44 PM |
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And how safe are you once you slam a cop? |
Gman2 |
Jun-29-09 02:41 PM |
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Sure it isn't Lt Dangle? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 02:55 PM |
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Providing you have a spare $30,000 for legal fees. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 03:08 PM |
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Or a federal case (no cost to you) |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 03:14 PM |
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I have little sympathy for law "enforcement" |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:14 PM |
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In the US a police officer is civilly liable for action on duty |
Pavulon |
Jun-29-09 03:17 PM |
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It is not easy to go after government run enforcement agencies. |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:18 PM |
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yup, we can have our asses sued, the only protection we have is good faith clauses |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:20 PM |
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We've just seen how liable one is for running down three cyclists. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 03:23 PM |
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the BART case is a strange one, our squad was talking about it |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:43 PM |
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Either that or he got scared like the one here and lost it. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 03:46 PM |
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why would he be "scared"? |
noiretextatique |
Jun-29-09 03:55 PM |
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yeah it can happen, especially with mobs, even old people |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:56 PM |
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When he walked inside he knew he had steped on his dick. |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 04:03 PM |
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could be, or it could have went down as he said, i guess once all the witnesses are questioned |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:07 PM |
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Agreed -- Truce |
Downwinder |
Jun-29-09 04:08 PM |
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Did the woman have |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-29-09 11:24 PM |
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No idea what the laws are there, but if in the lawful performance of my duties |
vadawg |
Jun-30-09 12:57 PM |
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To me this is the important point |
Mojorabbit |
Jun-30-09 03:33 PM |
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i would say yes were i am, how am i meant to know that you are the owner |
vadawg |
Jun-30-09 03:40 PM |
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Is Frank White a topic of your squadroom discussions? |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 04:33 PM |
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no idea what the case is about, not one we have talked about |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:39 PM |
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LOL!! I just now noticed your sig line! |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 05:29 PM |
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Why would he have drawn his tazer in the first place? |
Fumesucker |
Jun-29-09 04:38 PM |
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I was on the jury of a case with similarities |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:20 PM |
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yup nice job by the deputy, the manwas an ass and broke the law |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:21 PM |
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yeah he was an ass because he dared to question the absolute authority of the police |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:39 PM |
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Fox "News" is always looking for authoritarian apologists. |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:42 PM |
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lol if you dont see why the deputy had an obligation to check on the kids then you are beyond help |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:46 PM |
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Because -- in this case--the prosecution could not show |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 04:23 PM |
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I would happily get the charge thrown out, probuably would nolle prosse it myself |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:28 PM |
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Well you're a Democrat so you probably only use your powers for good |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 05:03 PM |
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yup i can detain you if i have probable cause, not just for shits and giggles |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:13 PM |
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honestl;y most of the guys i work with whether dems, pubs, veterans, etc |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 05:16 PM |
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If the kids proved to be fine, I can't believe that a D.A. actually brought this to trial |
rvablue |
Jun-29-09 04:36 PM |
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TPM interview with Busby |
RamboLiberal |
Jun-29-09 03:22 PM |
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I believe her anyday over a bureaucrat with a gun. |
PM Martin |
Jun-29-09 03:38 PM |
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lol yes because politicians unlike law enforcement never lie to the public |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 03:44 PM |
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If so, why do you automatically take the cops' side? Oh, you protect your own - even the liars. |
Zhade |
Jun-29-09 03:53 PM |
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and you automatically take the other side, so what , you hate cops fine |
vadawg |
Jun-29-09 04:03 PM |
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Thanks for that! |
MindPilot |
Jun-29-09 03:54 PM |
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The cops will get away with it. |
mrbarber |
Jun-29-09 04:35 PM |
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WTF! Police brutality at a |
Cha |
Jun-29-09 05:18 PM |
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for a "noise complaint" they showed up with several deputies, and a helicopter, & peppered sprayed |
JohnWxy |
Jun-30-09 01:11 PM |
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It is getting a lot of traction here in the local media |
MindPilot |
Jun-30-09 04:23 PM |
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Kick |
JonLP24 |
Jul-01-09 01:34 AM |
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