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Summermoondancer Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #260
268. All of the Media is reporting this here..I am sure photos are to follow
Even outside media is reporting it that way.

Something you should also know is that he was expulsed from the Unificacion Democratica Party on May 9, 2009. He was expulsed for illegally importing a luxury car via bribes to government officials.

Expulsan a Csar Ham de Unificacin Democrtica
Bajo la revocatoria de mandato suspendieron la directiva dirigida por Cesar Ham
http://www.elheraldo.hn/index.php/Pa s/Ediciones/2009/03/09/Noticias/Expulsan-a-Cesar-Ham-de-Unificacion-Democratica

He also was paid a 4 million lempira bribe to support the 4ta Urna and Zelaya...that seems pretty lucrative 4 million lempiras is a very large sum of money.

http://www.heraldohn.com/Pa s/Ediciones/2009/06/12/Noticias/Cesar-Ham-recibe-pisto-de-la-cuarta-urna

El grupo disidente del partido Unificacin Democrtica (UD) denunci ayer que la faccin del diputado y aspirante a la presidencia, Csar Ham, ha recibido millonario financiamiento de parte de la Casa Presidencial para promocionar la cuarta urna que impulsa el presidente Manuel Zelaya Rosales.

http://www.glayiu.org/?accion=ver&tipo=noticia&id=9445
Segn la agencia, pese a que an no estn claras las circunstancias de la muerte de Ham, la versin oficial es que se resisti a ser arrestado y se enfrent con una pistola al pelotn que lleg a su vivienda para detenerlo

According to the official version, even though circumstances are not clear about the death of Ham, the official resisted arrest and confronted police with a pistol.

http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/internacionales/2009-06-2... /

Reportan muerte de lder popular hondureo al resistirse al arresto en su casa
http://alexisrojas.blog.com.es/2009/06/28/reportan-muer... /

And this one is saying he is still alive...so we shall wait and see

http://www.elpatriotahn.com/l/content/c sar-ham-est-vivo-aunque-escondido

If he isnt dead...no one was murdered... a leader was removed that would have been in office until November by a legal process authorized by the Supreme Court.
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  -Troops arrest Honduran president dipsydoodle  Jun-28-09 08:10 AM   #0 
  - Oh. I thought it was Mayor BLOOMBERG getting a charter change to run again.  UTUSN   Jun-28-09 08:19 AM   #1 
  - Regarding charter changes, it depends on how it's done.  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 09:21 AM   #3 
     - Just a note on this BBC article...  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 09:31 AM   #4 
        - There's a gulf between the two. Thanks for illuminating the difference. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 10:06 AM   #5 
        - No, the BBC did not correct itself. They really should be ashamed.  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 10:12 AM   #6 
        - Honduras was central to a ton of murderous actions during Regan's reign of terror in Central America  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 10:33 AM   #9 
        - , Clinton--or at least the U.S. ambassador in Honduras) may have acted treacherously ?  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 11:22 AM   #20 
           - What do mullahs have to do with this event? n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:29 AM   #22 
           - ?  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 03:20 PM   #120 
              - I repeat, "What do mullahs have to do with this event?" n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 03:22 PM   #121 
                 - n/t  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 03:31 PM   #127 
                    - I'd like to know what they have to do with the event too.  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 04:50 PM   #148 
                       - That's easy, mullahs and latin american liberals are right wingers  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:40 PM   #255 
           - Where did you get Clinton's name, anyway? n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:30 AM   #23 
           - Peace Patriot ...DUH ...... see the post I replied to.... But it seems you agree Obama is behind  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 11:48 AM   #31 
              - some times the past 30 days news might be full of BS, remember Georgia and the Russian invasion  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 12:49 PM   #59 
                 - Venezuela's Chavez praises Ahmadinejad's "great victory"  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 03:30 PM   #126 
                    - Iran disputed election, the WH condemn the violence but never refuted the results n/t  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 07:09 PM   #211 
           - See my comment #6 above.  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 01:18 PM   #66 
              - from your "quoted" comment in #6  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 03:42 PM   #129 
                 - Here some sources from real sources  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:37 AM   #361 
        - CNN quotes Zelaya at length ...  eppur_se_muova   Jun-28-09 10:29 AM   #8 
           - Small detail, right? Good grief. Isn't it strange how deeply they've buried this news elsewhere?  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 10:36 AM   #10 
           - Yup, the BBC lied! The referendum was NOT about term limits!  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 10:52 AM   #11 
              - That's how the propagandists keep the mentally lazy ones fired up.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:07 AM   #16 
              - I doubt they did so maliciously.  dipsydoodle   Jun-28-09 11:58 AM   #36 
              - some times the news are based on press releases  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 12:54 PM   #62 
              - ... These 35 words - "Do you think that the November 2009 general elections should include a fourth  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:15 PM   #245 
           - Looks like someone somewhere does not want to heard the peoples opinion  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 12:52 PM   #61 
           - And Zelaya is WRong and the Supreme Court already told him so  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 08:19 PM   #247 
  - Going back to a banana republic  tj2001   Jun-28-09 08:36 AM   #2 
  - So to be damned with the law and the will of the people right?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:31 PM   #73 
     - Just like Clinton?  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 04:38 PM   #147 
     - See you are listening to propaganda...see how that works  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:02 PM   #153 
        - How about providing links for your claims, since you've got so much time on your hands.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 05:29 PM   #166 
        - Judi I proved all of the local media links how much more links do you want?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:35 PM   #171 
        - Why are you defending this right-wing coup bullshit  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 04:17 PM   #440 
           - Because she's a rich white woman.  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 07:46 PM   #455 
     - Honduran Military Assassinates Leftist Presidential Candidate  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:58 PM   #207 
     - Good god. Thank you, struggle4progress. I'd like to see someone explaining  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 07:03 PM   #208 
     - Navarro denunci represin militar hondurea contra partidarios de Zelaya  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:45 PM   #257 
     - There's a lesson to be learned here  Zorro   Jun-28-09 07:21 PM   #220 
     - Congressman Cesar Ham is his name. The first casualty that we know of,  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 07:41 PM   #225 
     - By tomorrow another a-hole will claim he was a FARC. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 07:49 PM   #231 
     - Do you have any information to contradict the story he had a gun?  Zorro   Jun-28-09 08:03 PM   #240 
        - When the President involuntarily emigrates at gunpoint, and members of his cabinet are  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:21 PM   #250 
           - So I take it you have no information contradicting the story either  Zorro   Jun-28-09 11:00 PM   #276 
              - I think my prior post is clearly phrased and conveys my intentions. I will, however, restate it  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 12:16 AM   #285 
                 - Oh I understand quite well  Zorro   Jun-29-09 12:41 AM   #286 
                    - That's not what I said. But I think you know that.  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 01:01 AM   #295 
     - the military has no right to arrest civilian politicians  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:14 AM   #415 
        - Cesar Ham was a man of color  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 02:27 PM   #432 
     - You confront the police who have a warrant with a gun then you die  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:56 PM   #239 
        - At least one international observer says other politicians are now also missing  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:47 PM   #258 
        - They had no right to arrest Cesar Ham. The man was not a criminal  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:16 AM   #416 
           - Cesar Ham not killed, or detained  muriel_volestrangler   Jun-29-09 04:58 PM   #443 
              - That's a great relief if true.  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 07:12 PM   #452 
              - Thanks for the correction.  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 08:40 PM   #459 
     - If the people were against Zelaya, they'd have just voted "no"  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:01 AM   #409 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-09 07:29 AM   #471 
  - Honduras president arrested, local media report (CNN)  eppur_se_muova   Jun-28-09 10:25 AM   #7 
  - Thumbnail sketch of Honduras during Reagan's time:  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 10:55 AM   #12 
  - Looks like "Rule by Decree" has been voted down nt  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 10:57 AM   #13 
  - So you don't feel obligated to refer to to any of the facts? The rest of us do. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:00 AM   #14 
  - Why did you so COWARDLY IGNORE a post by Summermoondancer  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 11:16 AM   #17 
     - What does my comment to you have to do with another poster?  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:28 AM   #21 
     - hee hee  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 12:26 PM   #57 
     - What Summermoondancer is missing - Golpe De Estado En Honduras -  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 01:08 PM   #63 
     - What I Am missing?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:32 PM   #74 
        - No, I'm not assuming what's going on there, a Military Coup is the same thing everywhere  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 01:52 PM   #86 
           - Since when is an impeachment a military coup?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 04:59 PM   #152 
              - Really? When did Congress vote to impeach? And if there was an impeachment vote and Zelaya  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:29 PM   #167 
              - Yesterday and the Arrest warrant was issued this morning  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:32 PM   #169 
                 - Brazil condemns Honduras coup  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:49 PM   #176 
                 - So and your point? If they affirm solidarity with the people they would know the people  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 06:05 PM   #190 
                 - Honduras President Manuel Zelaya ousted in military coup  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:55 PM   #183 
                 - I love how twisted media jumps into things they know nothing about  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 06:05 PM   #191 
                 - ... The European Union has already issued a statement condemning the coup. The OAS has condemned it  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:57 PM   #185 
                 - Once again, you misrepresent the situation: the actual sequence here is that the military  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 09:09 PM   #263 
                    - You base that on which part of the constitution of Honduras? Please site the section  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:55 AM   #324 
                       - Do you condemn the military assassination of Cesar Ham?  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:05 AM   #411 
              - Honduras Tense After Army Coup (WSJ)  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:38 PM   #173 
                 - now that's what we call a "Military Impeachment" of a president n/t  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 07:14 PM   #213 
     - Yes, I live in San Pedro Sula  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:26 PM   #70 
     - How is an advisory vote on starting a Constitutional discussion "a scam to steal  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 01:52 PM   #85 
     - I wish we could have an Asamblea Constituyente on health care n/t  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 02:02 PM   #91 
     - Do you even know what an asamblea constituyente is?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:13 PM   #158 
        - That's how the constitution was made  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 07:16 PM   #216 
           - Not here..our constitution is Not up for Being thrown in the TRASH  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:44 PM   #227 
              - Our last ex president screw our constitution very badly  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:16 PM   #246 
              - If he had been impeached and removed you would have...but then when  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 08:20 PM   #248 
              - Your constitution only protects the rights of the rich.  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:08 AM   #412 
     - No the vote was to give the exclusive right to rewrite the constitution by Zelaya  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:05 PM   #154 
        - Your misrepresentations are growing tiresome. See #248:  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:49 PM   #259 
           - What part of it was ruled illegal by the Supreme Court did you not get?  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:51 AM   #319 
              - What part of "deporting the President at gunpoint is not legal process" did you not get?  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 07:51 AM   #408 
     - Sounds like you're drinking  ProudDad   Jun-28-09 02:50 PM   #108 
        - Right wing controlled?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:08 PM   #155 
           - LOL  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 07:16 PM   #215 
           - LIBERAL in latin america means republican in the US  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 07:22 PM   #221 
              - Sources please!  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:38 PM   #224 
              - sure, why not? Zelaya was turning too much to the left  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 07:53 PM   #235 
                 - So Hondurans have no right to oppose Chavez getting involved?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:54 PM   #237 
                    - well, this is turning more like an anti Chavez rally  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:11 PM   #243 
                    - Well since he is threatening to invade Honduras over this what did you expect?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 08:14 PM   #244 
                    - He is reacting to the kidnap of his ambassador and also  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:20 PM   #249 
                       - They werent kidnapped they were put on planes and removed from the country  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 08:23 PM   #251 
                          - Honduras should apologies to other latin american countries  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:34 PM   #253 
                          - Are you sure they arent that stupid?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 09:14 PM   #266 
                             - Why should interventionism must be OK when the US do it?  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 11:44 PM   #280 
                          - Oh fucking BULLSHIT  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 04:24 PM   #441 
                             - not unless one favors despots, and dictators with a fascist bent  fascisthunter   Jun-29-09 05:27 PM   #446 
                    - Consider the source (n/t)  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:44 AM   #288 
                    - You'd have backed Franco, Castillo Armas, Somoza, Batista, Stroessner and Pinochet  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:12 AM   #414 
              - Someone tried that crappola earlier, claiming the Liberal Party is Liberal. Yah ha ha ha.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 07:46 PM   #230 
              - So Now you think Zelaya is a Right Winger;)  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:49 PM   #232 
                 - "he became a populist leftist after being elected."  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:28 PM   #252 
              - Somoza was a Liberal.  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:10 AM   #413 
     - It's good to see that you still read her posts. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 07:15 PM   #214 
  - "Rule by decree"? Zelaya was asking for an ADVISORY vote on whether to hold Constitutional  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 11:35 AM   #24 
  - Voted down by a military coup.  Flaneur   Jun-28-09 11:38 AM   #25 
     - Acting outside of constitutional norms  joshua.bogart   Jun-28-09 03:26 PM   #122 
        - That's how I'm seeing it, too  Zorro   Jun-28-09 03:28 PM   #124 
        - Thank you Joshua...  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:14 PM   #159 
        - Impeachments don't involve weapons in normal places. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 05:26 PM   #164 
           - Yes, they do...everytime an arrest warrant is executed in the US  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:33 PM   #170 
              - Newt Gingrich, sean hannity  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:48 AM   #291 
                 - Please elaborate on how you know more about the Honduran Constitution than I do?  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:52 AM   #322 
                    - So military coups are allowed in your alleged constitution? (n/t)  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:55 AM   #325 
                       - There was no military coup the military is not in power  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:48 AM   #376 
        - But wait! This doesn't seem to be the impeachment process in the Honduras constitution.  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:27 PM   #165 
        - if this is correct Fidel Castro's detractors are falling in their own hole  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 07:27 PM   #222 
  - "Venezuela, ALBA, and OAS Back Honduran President Against Potential Coup"  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 11:01 AM   #15 
  - Where did they stand on the recent Iranian election results ? Any quotes put out ? gotta link ?  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 11:18 AM   #18 
  - I don't think the OAS or ALBA said anything about Iran.  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 12:20 PM   #54 
     - Please establish where you get this is a right wing coup?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:21 PM   #162 
  - The thing is it isnt anyone elses business  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:19 PM   #161 
     - Hey, it was U.S. dollars  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:50 AM   #292 
        - There were protestors on the street in the capital.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 12:52 AM   #294 
           - 100 Government employees protesting cause they lost their jobs doesnt count as protesters  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:53 AM   #323 
              - Why don't you ask your SOA grad husband what his buds did over the weekend.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:01 AM   #331 
                 - Tell me Ferrari how it is to critisize someone who LIVES HERE  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:09 AM   #337 
                    - Your ambassador to the OEA went on camera and said it was a coup  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:11 AM   #339 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 01:01 PM   #427 
                          - The coup government itself acknowledges the ILLEGALITY of the coup.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:37 PM   #438 
                             - Very important admission, after all. It's a surprise you found it as the Post surely didn't  Judi Lynn   Jun-29-09 04:41 PM   #442 
  - Will the Honduran military bring back its infamous death squads?  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:21 AM   #19 
  - Do you really find it necessary to insult Hondurans?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:24 PM   #163 
     - Nobody showed up at Gray Davis' house  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:52 AM   #293 
     - WTF are these people that defend this thuggery?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:45 AM   #315 
        - Well  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 02:02 AM   #332 
           - Chiquita Uber Alles!  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 07:49 PM   #457 
     - If you are for real, what would you care what Americans have to say on a small website like DU?  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 02:35 AM   #360 
     - Even if Zelaya had been able to stand for another term, he'd have still needed to get the votes  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 07:48 PM   #456 
     - felicidades  subcomhd   Jun-30-09 12:32 PM   #480 
  - Report from Zelaya's wife. He was beaten and dragged out in the middle of the night.  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 11:40 AM   #26 
  - Odd that Zelaya himself didn't mention that during his CR statement  Tejas   Jun-28-09 02:51 PM   #109 
  - No doubt survival is more important to him than rehashing a beating from Costa Rica.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 03:05 PM   #115 
  - first Lady  joshua.bogart   Jun-28-09 03:32 PM   #128 
     - Yeah Hacienda Los Horcones where Zelaya MURDERED 14 religious leaders  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:53 PM   #236 
        - So Zelaya comes from a rightwing family and the oligarchy is upset that he moved to the center  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:42 PM   #256 
        - oops! I have to call Xiomara  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 08:51 PM   #261 
  - K&R !!  Overseas   Jun-28-09 11:40 AM   #27 
  - No one here wants him back so now what?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:54 PM   #238 
     - If no one wanted him back the army wouldn't be teargassing and beating people  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 07:52 PM   #458 
  - He needed to stack the supreme court before they could rule his plans unconstitutional  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 11:45 AM   #28 
  - Ah, like that "dictator" FDR tried to do, to save Social Security?  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 11:56 AM   #35 
  - All media and all electricity shut down by the military. TV playing cartoons!  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 11:47 AM   #29 
  - They apparently have been studying how to side-step problems the oligarchs had in Venezuela  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:52 AM   #32 
  - from honduras  joshua.bogart   Jun-28-09 03:53 PM   #131 
  - where are you located?  BuddhaGirl   Jun-28-09 06:04 PM   #189 
  - Same as Iran but is the MSM reporting it that way? NO!  Joanne98   Jun-28-09 04:12 PM   #140 
  - LBN - Three Ambassadors taken hostage  dipsydoodle   Jun-28-09 11:48 AM   #30 
  - the world didn't mind this behavior from the theocracy..( some may have missed the Iranian LBN )  ohio2007   Jun-28-09 11:52 AM   #33 
  - Thanks for the update, dipsydoodle. Very helpful. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 11:55 AM   #34 
  - Do you have link to  dipsydoodle   Jun-28-09 12:08 PM   #37 
     - Not just yet. You may recall the Bay of Pigs was already set in motion BEFORE Kennedy took office.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 12:19 PM   #52 
        - Yep. I'd bet this is a festering sore left from John Negroponte's recent time at the top.  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:04 PM   #92 
  - Venezuelan, Cuban, and Nicaraguan Ambassadors to Honduras Kidnapped  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:02 PM   #90 
     - I read somewhere today the US ambassador has refused to take calls from Honduras's Foreign Relations  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 02:23 PM   #99 
     - Them planning an invasion to take over Honduras by Force is a good reason to  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:46 PM   #228 
        - You're traveling through another dimension ... That's the signpost up ahead  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 09:32 PM   #270 
  - Honduran President Kidnapped  justinaforjustice   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #38 
  - The right wing strikes back  ck4829   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #39 
  - I'll bet Latin America will fight that possibility any way possible.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #45 
  - The Right Wing?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 04:58 PM   #151 
     - Then the country's politicians are all dirty, having served as a puppet state for decades.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 05:09 PM   #156 
        - The 80s was a long time ago...  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:12 PM   #157 
           - Go ahead a post the links to that information. Surely you don't think you've got a captive audience  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 05:18 PM   #160 
              - Judi I have provided you plenty of links  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:29 PM   #168 
                 - You keep repeating over and over that you live there,  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 07:46 PM   #229 
                 - Bitch kitty what about the Hondurans that live here besides me?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:52 PM   #234 
                    - Have you now forsaken your US citizenship?  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 09:16 PM   #267 
                    - Honduras is not the world it is Honduras  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 09:30 PM   #269 
                       - I won't sit idle while you spew right wing talking points. Ain't gonna happen.  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 09:46 PM   #271 
                          - Where is SOA, again?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:39 AM   #313 
                          - Why, it just so happens to be in Georgia. n/t  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 01:51 AM   #320 
                             - What are the odds. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:56 AM   #326 
                          - NO I met him in South Carolina at a military hospital  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:49 AM   #318 
                          - Ah! So your husband is in the military.  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 01:58 AM   #327 
                          - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 02:00 AM   #330 
                          - BINGO!!!!!  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:08 AM   #336 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 02:11 AM   #340 
                                - I admitted no such thing.  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:23 AM   #347 
                                   - Ex member during 1988-1992  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:58 AM   #387 
                          - Evidently there are confused sources and some say he is alive so was he murdered or is he alive?  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:02 AM   #333 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 02:10 AM   #338 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 02:16 AM   #343 
                                   - Oh, you're a racist too? Go figure...  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:26 AM   #351 
                                   - A Racist nope that is you that is a racist...how can I be a racist against myself  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:59 AM   #388 
                                   - Que calor esto esta caliente!  AlphaCentauri   Jun-29-09 10:01 AM   #410 
                                   - Why do you think I'm white?  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 03:18 PM   #437 
                                   - Well, saying that all Mexicans can speak is "pigeon spanish" is very bigoted.  Selatius   Jun-29-09 07:34 PM   #454 
                                   - Yep - those lazy, ignorant Mexicans - ain't that right  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 09:45 PM   #461 
                          - And these actions were all "legal" too  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:10 PM   #422 
                             - Yes, they were legal...now why dont you worry about the illegal actions of the US for a change  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 12:58 PM   #425 
                                - I'm beginning to think you're a computer  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:20 PM   #431 
                                   - Did she actually say that Nazi persecution of Jews was legal?  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 09:49 PM   #462 
                          - Some time ago it was mentioned she met her husband in Georgia.  Judi Lynn   Jun-29-09 05:00 AM   #399 
                             - Thanks, Judi, I missed that one.  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 10:31 PM   #467 
                    - "Liberal" in Honduras = Republican in USAmerika  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:01 AM   #296 
                    - LMAO. Look at your sources.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:48 AM   #317 
                 - You live in a mansion in Honduras  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:18 AM   #417 
                    - I dont live in a mansion  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:02 PM   #428 
                       - hahahaha  fascisthunter   Jun-29-09 05:29 PM   #447 
                       - Well, since you take the side of the rich, it was a natural assumption.  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 07:14 PM   #453 
                       - Just curious  Robb   Jun-30-09 07:40 AM   #474 
                          - Glad you mentioned that terrifying invasion from those scary leftist countries. Poor Hondurans!  Judi Lynn   Jun-30-09 11:44 AM   #478 
  - Here is another DU thread and comments on this situation...  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #40 
  - Why is there little International media coverage on this new event ?  Ezana   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #41 
  - Because MJ hasnt had his funeral yet n/t  pkdu   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #43 
  - Personal Communication From Coup Expert.  justinaforjustice   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #50 
  - Amazing that in today's world, these ruffians think they can succeed with  MasonJar   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #42 
  - And our 'Chavez the dictator' crowd here?  Warren Stupidity   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #44 
  - Even they know that right wing dictatorships in Latin America are several times worse...  ck4829   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #47 
  - I was born in Venezuela, my family lives in Venezuela  mecherosegarden   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #48 
  - Why is it that I can go to Venezuela with a US passport but you can't?  ret5hd   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #49 
     - Where you born in Venezuela?  mecherosegarden   Jun-28-09 02:34 PM   #104 
  - How is a legal process a trameling of democracy?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:36 PM   #172 
  - ... A leading government official, Armando Sarmiento, told AFP that at least eight cabinet members  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:12 PM   #194 
  - Why didn't your new dictator wait until November? (n/t)  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:02 AM   #298 
     - Dictators dont relinquish power when elections are held  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:56 AM   #384 
        - do you think we are fools?  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:03 PM   #420 
           - liars always assume others are fools  fascisthunter   Jun-29-09 05:32 PM   #449 
  - I see the pattern  fascisthunter   Jun-29-09 05:31 PM   #448 
  - Thanks, justinaforjustice, for the information we haven't seen anywhere else!  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #46 
  - links  bananas   Jun-28-09 12:12 PM   #51 
  - Thank you for the links. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 12:19 PM   #53 
  - He was NOT kidnapped  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:28 PM   #71 
     - "he is lucky he isn't dead," eh? Know something about the Honduran military  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 01:57 PM   #87 
     - Honduran Military  joshua.bogart   Jun-28-09 04:10 PM   #139 
        - Yeah, my ass. nt  Robb   Jun-28-09 07:17 PM   #217 
        - Are you Joshua Bogart of the Peace Corps?  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:04 AM   #334 
        - No, I dont know who any Joshua is...I live here  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 12:54 PM   #424 
           - I was talking to the poster calling himself by that name, not you. n/t  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 10:44 PM   #468 
        - And they get to DECIDE "when it is legal"  Ken Burch   Jun-29-09 10:21 AM   #418 
     - It looks surprisingly like the Aristide case: the guy is nabbed in the middle of the night and  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:13 PM   #94 
     - It's a strange "arrest" since arrest is usually followed by charges, not by deportation in pajamas  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:14 PM   #96 
     - Isn't it, though? Maybe they forgot! n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 02:34 PM   #103 
        - I'm pretty sure the proper route for removal of the President in Honduras in: (1) Congress impeaches  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:57 PM   #113 
           - Aw, they're just too busy. Don't have time to observe the law, apparently.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 03:02 PM   #114 
              - Or maybe the proposed vote threw the oligarchs into a real panic  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 03:12 PM   #117 
              - No doubt. It's easy to imagine they had a good idea where that vote was headed, after all.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 03:17 PM   # 
                 - YEah with all the stuffed ballot boxes and all....  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:09 PM   #212 
              - We do have one here you go...our constitution  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 06:06 PM   #192 
                 - Um ... I already posted a link in the Constitution in #119 below, about 70 posts before you did  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:36 PM   #254 
                 - Oh, Christ.  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:07 AM   #300 
     - can't wait for the return of the death squads, eh?  Warren Stupidity   Jun-28-09 03:45 PM   #130 
        - That doesn't add up, does it? That's not something Democrats encourage.  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 04:07 PM   #138 
  - Holy SHIT!!!  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 12:21 PM   #55 
  - Believe it!  Tejas   Jun-28-09 01:35 PM   #76 
  - Shit! I thought Central America had gotten over that Contra Era type BS.  Odin2005   Jun-28-09 12:22 PM   #56 
  - from SOA Watch  roody   Jun-28-09 12:39 PM   #58 
  - Why did Zelaya choose to ignore the unanimous ruling by the Supreme Court?  Zorro   Jun-28-09 12:49 PM   #60 
  - You mean, of course, the Supreme Court that is controlled by  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 01:12 PM   #64 
  - So you're OK with Zelaya ignoring the ruling by the Honduran Supreme Court?  Zorro   Jun-28-09 01:22 PM   #69 
  - So you're okay with the forcible removal, at gunpoint,  bitchkitty   Jul-01-09 03:20 PM   #500 
  - Wrong...Zelaya hand picked the court  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:29 PM   #72 
     - links?  roody   Jun-28-09 01:37 PM   #77 
     - What Part of I AM IN HONDURAS  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:47 PM   #82 
        - The part where your "knowledge" of Supreme Court appointments is years out-of-date:  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:39 PM   #105 
        - How about an actual reference to our laws and not some opinion article?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:50 PM   #177 
           - From the constitution: ARTICULO 311.- Los Magistrados de la Corte Suprema de Justicia, sern electos  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 12:44 AM   #289 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 01:58 AM   #328 
              - Here's the problem: in #72, you claim the President hand-picks the Court. That was the old system.  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 03:06 AM   #372 
              - He nominates them just like in the US and they ratify it by vote just like in the US read the entire  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:59 AM   #329 
        - That means NOTHING  ProudDad   Jun-28-09 02:55 PM   #111 
        - Right wing? Where do you get all of this right wing bs?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:53 PM   #179 
           - "Liberal Party" in Honduras = Republican Party in U.S.America  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:10 AM   #301 
        - WHO THE FUCK CARES?  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 09:50 PM   #463 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-28-09 02:45 PM   #106 
  - Did the three ambassadors who were kidnapped also  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 01:14 PM   #65 
  - The OAS must do what NATO does in this cases n/t  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 01:22 PM   #68 
  - I think I read that one of them -- the Ven? -- was left by the side of the road.  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 07:51 PM   #233 
  - Honduras court says ordered army to oust Zelaya  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 01:18 PM   #67 
  - He was promoting a VOTE--an advisory vote at that. And this gets him kidnapped  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 01:39 PM   #78 
     - Correction  Zorro   Jun-28-09 01:47 PM   #80 
     - the Honduran Supreme Court ruled it illegal, stuffed ballot boxes didn't  Tejas   Jun-28-09 01:51 PM   #84 
        - After the ballots were protected by the military and the policia nacional?  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 02:13 PM   #95 
           - They werent protected by the Policia Nacional or the FFAA  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:48 PM   #175 
  - Zelaya just resigned!  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:33 PM   #75 
  - Despite coup, Honduran president to attend regional summit  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 01:46 PM   #79 
  - HE gave his formal resignation in front of the local channel...  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 01:48 PM   #83 
     - "resignation in front of the local channel"? Did you see it?  Peace Patriot   Jun-28-09 02:05 PM   #93 
     - You read wrong  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 04:55 PM   #149 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-09 07:30 AM   #472 
  - Honduras president denies resignation  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:17 PM   #97 
  - Thanks for adding actual information for this event. Phony letter, too. God. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 02:31 PM   #101 
  - The letter has his signature  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 04:57 PM   #150 
     - I want to mark this so I can remember that you defended forgery  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 05:24 AM   #403 
  - Zelaya denies his resignation  AlphaCentauri   Jun-28-09 02:18 PM   #98 
  - Honduran Congress votes to accept what it claims is President Manuel Zelaya's resignation  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:25 PM   #100 
  - Thanks for the CNN news. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 02:32 PM   #102 
  - Stop repeating lies.  bitchkitty   Jun-28-09 02:55 PM   #110 
  - Keep drinking that Kool-Aid (n/t)  ProudDad   Jun-28-09 02:56 PM   #112 
  - An unimpeachable source  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:13 AM   #303 
  - The letter was proven to be a forgery.  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 01:22 PM   #485 
  - Costa Rica calls on int'l community to condemn Honduras coup  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 01:47 PM   #81 
  - Honduras president condemns 'plot'  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 01:58 PM   #88 
  - Honduran President Says Military Kidnapped Him  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 02:00 PM   #89 
  - Your tax dollars at work  ProudDad   Jun-28-09 02:45 PM   #107 
  - People Mobilize against Coup in Honduras  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 03:07 PM   #116 
  - I have a picture for you it is ONE person who is buring tires  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:54 PM   #182 
     - Oh my goodness! What rightist tripe you're linking to!  Flaneur   Jun-29-09 01:05 PM   #429 
  - Here's a look at the illegal coup president, Roberto Micheletti:  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 03:15 PM   #118 
  - CONSTITUCION POLITICA ... ARTICULO 102.- Ningn hondureo podr ser expatriado ni entregado por las  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 03:17 PM   #119 
  - Argentine President says military coup in Honduras is "a return to barbarism"  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 03:27 PM   #123 
  - He was a leftist?  killbotfactory   Jun-28-09 03:29 PM   #125 
  - No: he started as a right-centrist and became centrist, provoking the undying enmity of oligarchs  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:30 PM   #197 
  - Live coverage of the coup on CNN en espanol  rabs   Jun-28-09 03:56 PM   #132 
  - BIG crowd, rabs.Your link is very helpful.Wonder what they're going to do with the people!Thanks.n/t  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 04:25 PM   #146 
  - UPDATE: Honduran leader forced into exile (CNN) {in Costa Rica}  eppur_se_muova   Jun-28-09 04:04 PM   #133 
  - Nice - I hope this does not sign the spread of RW Deathsquads  Taverner   Jun-28-09 04:04 PM   #134 
  - coup not  joshua.bogart   Jun-28-09 04:04 PM   #135 
     - How much power does...  iandhr   Jun-28-09 04:04 PM   #136 
     - They are the Supreme law of the Land just like in the US their ruling is final  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:58 PM   #186 
        - Here is some more information on why he was removed actual articles of the constitution  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 06:04 PM   #188 
           - LOL. Not those damn COMMIES AGAIN!?  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 11:06 PM   #278 
           - Anyone to the left of Hitler is a communist to you people!  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 04:41 AM   #398 
           - Someone should tell all those Venezuelans that they are now a communist country.  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-29-09 02:43 PM   #436 
     - Exactly Joshua but Judi thinks she knows more than people living in Honduras  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 05:56 PM   #184 
     - You two better start making some calls because every single world body disagrees with you.  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 11:04 PM   #277 
     - Tell me, Joshua, does Honduras typically deport politicians it arrests?  Flaneur   Jun-29-09 01:08 PM   #430 
     - nice avatar... too bad it's a meaningless front  fascisthunter   Jun-29-09 05:36 PM   #450 
  - Oops, delete, posted twice  rabs   Jun-28-09 04:04 PM   #137 
  - Honduras's Zelaya says US helped thwart coup-paper  TacticalPeek   Jun-28-09 04:22 PM   #141 
  - CNN just reported that he's been taken to Costa Rica  eleny   Jun-28-09 04:22 PM   #142 
  - Very cool move  Warpy   Jun-28-09 04:22 PM   #143 
  - YAY!!!  Odin2005   Jun-28-09 04:22 PM   #144 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-28-09 04:22 PM   #145 
  - That is old...he was removed this morning  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 06:09 PM   #193 
  - Zelaya on his way to Nicaragua  rabs   Jun-28-09 05:43 PM   #174 
  - Nicaragua president calls regional presidents' meeting on Honduras  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:51 PM   #178 
  - Absolutely appropriate. Can't believe they're also harrassing his cabinet members  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 05:54 PM   #181 
  - Foreign minister kanoodling with Cuban and Venezuelan ambassadors  Zorro   Jun-28-09 06:00 PM   #187 
  - Venezuelan Government Condemns Coup d'tat in Honduras  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 05:54 PM   #180 
  - World reaction: Honduran crisis  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:16 PM   #195 
  - How about Honduran reaction...I see everyone runs to CNN and BBC  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 06:23 PM   #196 
  - If I were conspiracy-minded  Zorro   Jun-28-09 06:40 PM   #199 
     - No I am not Conspiracy Minded except they are members of Alba  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:05 PM   #210 
        - You don't kidnap and murder people during a legal process.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:42 AM   #314 
           - No one was Kidnapped good grief they were arrested  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:24 AM   #348 
              - Save it. The world has already condemned this blow against the people of Honduras.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:28 AM   #354 
  - But, but, but none of those guys live in Honduras!  killbotfactory   Jun-29-09 06:25 PM   #451 
  - Photos that you may or may not see in the U.S. media  rabs   Jun-28-09 06:37 PM   #198 
  - Thanks so much for posting these photos, rabs. The people look very sincere,  Judi Lynn   Jun-28-09 10:12 PM   #272 
  - UN General Assembly president slams Honduras coup  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:50 PM   #200 
  - France and EU condemn coup in Honduras  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:51 PM   #201 
  - Zapatero ... unacceptable ... illegal deportation of Zelaya (Barcelona reporter)  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:52 PM   #202 
  - World condemnation of the military coup in Honduras  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:53 PM   #203 
  - Bachelet calls Zelaya to express Chile's support.  rabs   Jun-28-09 07:03 PM   #209 
  - US has talked with deposed Honduran leader  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:54 PM   #204 
  - Zelaya Remains Legitimate Honduran Leader, U.S. Officials Say  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 06:56 PM   #205 
  - Another brutal right-wing military coup in Latin America...  New Dawn   Jun-28-09 06:56 PM   #206 
  - Undoubtedly?  Zorro   Jun-28-09 07:17 PM   #218 
  - Insofar as those ambassadors were kidnapped, yeah, they were involved.  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 07:20 PM   #219 
  - They should not have been here nosing in our impeachment in the first place  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:42 PM   #226 
     - Impeachment? Is that what they're calling it now?  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 10:41 PM   #273 
     - That is what they have been calling it since 7 pm on Saturday...of course you dont live here so you  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:17 AM   #344 
        - LOL! You better be happy I pay my taxes or your husband would get no check. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:26 AM   #350 
           - My husband is retired military he doesnt get a check and never did  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 04:00 AM   #389 
              - Michelle Malkin, is that you?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 05:24 PM   #445 
     - You have got to be fucking kidding me. That justifies ABDUCTING them?  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 09:57 PM   #465 
  - Aren't you running out of Kool-Aid yet? (n/t)  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:18 AM   #304 
  - Brutal? Who died?  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 07:38 PM   #223 
     - Cesar Ham is one n/t  Bodhi BloodWave   Jun-28-09 08:04 PM   #241 
     - Um that is what happens when you threaten the police with a gun  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 08:09 PM   #242 
        - Summermoondancer  pjt7   Jun-28-09 08:49 PM   #260 
           - A number of other politicians seem to have disappeared. See #260. This, sadly, is what  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 08:57 PM   #262 
           - They grabbed Zelaya's cabinet, I heard earlier today. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 10:43 PM   #274 
           - They grabbed my grandfather on a day like today about sixty years ago.  EFerrari   Jun-28-09 10:53 PM   #275 
           - All of the Media is reporting this here..I am sure photos are to follow  Summermoondancer   Jun-28-09 09:25 PM   #268 
              - These people disagree with you.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 11:14 PM   #469 
                 - just a run of the mill impeachment  subcomhd   Jun-30-09 12:22 PM   #479 
                 - The next ex president of Honduras is about to do his Baghdad Bob impression.  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 03:28 PM   #494 
                 - Excellent photos! Just think what they would have been dealing with, if they hadn't cut electricity,  Judi Lynn   Jun-30-09 12:45 PM   #481 
                    - Judi Lynn, the people are marching to the capitol! And the campesinos  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 02:50 PM   #487 
                       - Omigosh. I just got the images on tv, and can see that people are also  Judi Lynn   Jun-30-09 03:07 PM   #491 
                          - I just lost the Telesur signal but the last report said the demonstration has spread  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 03:27 PM   #493 
     - "Liberal Party" in Honduras = Republican Party in U.S.America  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:24 AM   #306 
  - Ecuador, Venezuela condemn Honduras coup  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 09:11 PM   #264 
  - U.N.'s Ban Ki-moon condemns Honduras leader's arrest  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 09:13 PM   #265 
  - Ok, OAS, UN also condemned Bush's Iraq Invasion. Toothless and useless.  SuperTrouper   Jun-28-09 11:41 PM   #279 
  - ALBA condemns Honduran coup, Zelaya participates meeting  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 11:44 PM   #281 
  - Background Briefing on the Situation in Honduras (US State Dept)  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 11:48 PM   #282 
  - Gunshots heard near Honduras presidential palace  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 11:49 PM   #283 
  - Some pix at bottom of this page:  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 12:44 AM   #290 
     - Looks to me like more than 150 people  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 01:02 AM   #297 
     - NYTs says Obama's people were in talks over the weekend:  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:04 AM   #299 
     - LOL! I'm streaming Telesur and just saw a clip of the next ex president  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:12 AM   #302 
     - Some of those pix are from earlier demonstrations AGAINST ZELAYA  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:06 AM   #335 
     - Great photos, Tons of people braved facing the tanks to turn out there.  Judi Lynn   Jun-29-09 04:17 AM   #397 
  - UN General Assembly To Meet On Honduras Unrest Monday-Spokesman  struggle4progress   Jun-28-09 11:50 PM   #284 
  - Communist Party USA Statement on Honduras Crisis  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 12:43 AM   #287 
  - WSJ: Honduras defends its democracy  La Gringa   Jun-29-09 01:23 AM   #305 
  - Nice try...not good enough  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 01:33 AM   #308 
  - Wall Street Journal? Sure!  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 01:34 AM   #309 
  - O'Grady's article was about Chavez, not Honduras. lol  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:37 AM   #312 
  - Good, insightful article  Zorro   Jun-29-09 01:35 AM   #310 
  - Unfortunately the NYTs has already reported that the administration  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:36 AM   #311 
     - And the head golpista is a CIA guy  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 01:48 AM   #316 
        - I hope those @ssholes don't start killing people when they figure out  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 01:52 AM   #321 
  - Communist party? Now I Understand your bias you hate the US rule of law too.  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:13 AM   #341 
     - I see you have been well conditioned to salivate at the sound of the bell  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 02:19 AM   #346 
        - Indiana so it is a crime to not want to live under a communist regime? Answer the question  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:27 AM   #353 
        - First of all, you are an American living in Honduras--not a native Honduran  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 02:47 AM   #368 
        - I certainly can say we because I am a DUAL citizen living in Honduras  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:52 AM   #380 
        - Oh and you dont know me well enough to treat me as vos  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:54 AM   #383 
           - Forgive my proletarian Spanish  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 04:13 AM   #395 
        - Zelaya isn't a communist. For that matter, Hugo Chavez isn't either.  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 01:24 PM   #486 
           - Our correspondent in Honduras is not a white woman  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 02:54 PM   #488 
        - How much did we pay the Honduran military last year  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:38 AM   #363 
           - You didnt pay them anything  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:46 AM   #367 
              - Honduras gets millions for IMET alone. Do you know what millions means?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:48 AM   #377 
                 - Ask Zelaya what he did with it then because he claims he got nothing  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:51 AM   #378 
                    - No, I claimed no such thing.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:57 AM   #386 
                       - Maybe...8,000 million lempiras is missing from our treasury  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 04:07 AM   #394 
                          - I haven't made a single claim about Zelaya. You are confused.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 04:16 AM   #396 
  - School of Americas graduate is coup leader  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 01:29 AM   #307 
  - HE WAS HAND PICKED BY ZELAYA dummy  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:14 AM   #342 
     - You have zero credibility here and that's a generous estimate. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:19 AM   #345 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-29-09 02:25 AM   #349 
        - How long have you hated Mexicans?  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:27 AM   #352 
        - My parents and myself are Mexican ancestory...and the Mexican language  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:29 AM   #355 
           - Now all of a sudden you're Mexican?  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:30 AM   #356 
           - You better alert that mods. Apparently, I'm a terrorist!  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:33 AM   #359 
              - Did you alert them that you also called my husband a criminal for being  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:45 AM   #366 
                 - Well, since he is in the Honduran military, since you do vehemently  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 03:00 AM   #371 
                 - So you automatically make assumptions about people you dont know?  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:45 AM   #374 
                    - LOL  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 05:19 AM   #401 
                    - I don't have to know who you are to know what you are. n/t  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 05:24 AM   #402 
                 - Um, I never called your husband a criminal. Is he one?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:30 AM   #373 
                 - You most certainly did when you insinuated that he had committed crimes during the time in the  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 03:46 AM   #375 
                    - Did your husband ever spend time at Fort Benning, Georgia or  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 03:53 AM   #381 
                    - Nope  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 04:02 AM   #390 
                       - Did you go to the air show?  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 04:04 AM   #393 
                       - But you probably did spend time in Little Havana and the Barrio Alto in Santiago  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 11:43 AM   #477 
                    - I think you have me confused with your unfortunate imagination. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:56 AM   #385 
                       - NO it is you who is confused with your ill applied insults toward my husband  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 04:02 AM   #391 
                          - LOL. Do you always get your way by behaving like a victim?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 04:04 AM   #392 
                 - EFerrari's ties to Central America go back for generations, and include  Judi Lynn   Jun-29-09 05:10 AM   #400 
                 - One of those countries is not Honduras dear  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 01:00 PM   #426 
                 - You mean like those reservists pictured on your blog?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:40 PM   #439 
                 - No one risked their live to OVERTHROW your country's elected president  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 01:06 PM   #483 
                 - Enough about that...let's get to the real question...  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 07:21 PM   #495 
                    - That should've been "could SHE get Du'ers a discount?"  Ken Burch   Jul-01-09 02:35 AM   #497 
                 - Let's see - you support right-wing junta types KIDNAPPING foreign dignitaries...  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 09:52 PM   #464 
           - "The Mexican language is bastardized Spanish"  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:32 AM   #358 
           - You know, I've been doing my research on this woman,  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:38 AM   #362 
           - Bitchkitty and you have been all over the internet telling us how  Summermoondancer   Jun-29-09 02:43 AM   #365 
           - OK, I'll tell you - I haven't.  bitchkitty   Jun-29-09 02:57 AM   #370 
           - LOL. I've been all over the internet?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:53 AM   #382 
           - You don't speak for all Hondurans  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 11:40 AM   #476 
           - Maybe he was suspected of being one of those terrifying invading Venezuelans or Nicaraguans.  Judi Lynn   Jun-30-09 12:55 PM   #482 
           - Hondurans seem to have it all right.  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 08:07 PM   #496 
           - That's a good idea. I'm looking up how much we pay for  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 03:52 AM   #379 
           - I suppose since she's Mexican, she's allowed to say whatever the hell she wants about Mexicans  Hugabear   Jun-29-09 10:17 PM   #466 
              - And part Bolivian, as well.  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 11:35 AM   #475 
           - So, the only real Spanish is Castellano? What do they speak in Asturias then?  IndianaGreen   Jun-29-09 02:52 AM   #369 
        - LOL! Terrorist?  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 02:30 AM   #357 
           - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-29-09 02:41 AM   #364 
     - Allende hand-picked Pinochet to be military chief of statf  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 01:16 PM   #484 
  - how does the referendum sytem work  excess_3   Jun-29-09 06:10 AM   #404 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-30-09 07:31 AM   #473 
  - Canada: Statement by Minister of State Kent on the Situation in Honduras  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 07:46 AM   #405 
  - Jamaica: Government Condemns Removal From Office of Honduras President  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 07:47 AM   #406 
  - Dominican Government condemns Honduras coup, fears contagion in region  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 07:48 AM   #407 
  - If this is all so legit, why isn't Mr. or I should say President Zelaya in jail  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-29-09 10:39 AM   #419 
  - Standard operating procedure  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 12:06 PM   #421 
     - Oh believe me I get it. I was just waiting to get a response from people defending this bullshit. nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Jun-29-09 12:13 PM   #423 
  - Moscow condemns Honduran coup, calls for restoration of law  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 02:36 PM   #433 
  - Honduras' Zelaya invited to address UN Assembly  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 02:37 PM   #434 
  - EU regrets Honduras coup  struggle4progress   Jun-29-09 02:38 PM   #435 
  - Here's the word from someone who REALLY lives there...  ProudDad   Jun-29-09 05:02 PM   #444 
  - More words: The Rio Group is fully behind Zelaya and insists he be returned.  EFerrari   Jun-29-09 09:26 PM   #460 
     - Link to "Ousted Honduran head 'to return'"  dipsydoodle   Jun-30-09 04:30 AM   #470 
        - The Congress has issued an order for his arrest: the campesinos are marching to the capitol.  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 02:55 PM   #489 
           - Heavy shit is clearly going to go down.  Ken Burch   Jun-30-09 03:01 PM   #490 
              - These guys need to get on a plane while they still have the airport. n/t  EFerrari   Jun-30-09 03:24 PM   #492 
  - Honduran president describes how coup unfolded  Judi Lynn   Jul-01-09 04:38 AM   #498 
  - For the couple of posters who have taken the time to insist the coup is not a coup,  Judi Lynn   Jul-01-09 11:18 AM   #499 
 

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