sisters6
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Fri Jun-26-09 10:48 AM
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AARP should be all over him for this. What does he think?==we should let a person with a broken hip lie in bed and suffer (of course pump him up with morphine).
Obama has on several occasions spoke of "Best Practices". He knows nothing of them as the best practice for broken hips to immediately take them to surgery for repair and then once back in the room get them up walking. Physical therapy usually assists with this for the first few times. To leave a person with a broken hip is a death wish as if bedridden, they will develop ulcers, pneumonia, blood clots, and god knows what else.
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| -Obama discusses deathbed measures |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:08 AM |
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hopefully not the same people who work at the DMV, should be the patient though. |
vadawg |
Jun-25-09 10:10 AM |
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Fuck that noise |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 10:12 AM |
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Not sure if I'd even trust some in my family... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:13 AM |
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I certainly wouldn't trust those decisions in my loved ones being made by your family |
AngryAmish |
Jun-25-09 04:04 PM |
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I would hope that someone would give you the facts |
Warpy |
Jun-25-09 10:25 AM |
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You think coronary bypass is a drastic surgery? |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 10:29 AM |
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Excuse me, there's a difference between major and routine |
Warpy |
Jun-25-09 11:01 AM |
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My dad had a quadruple coronary bypass when he was 73 |
thecrow |
Jun-25-09 10:42 AM |
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He probably had a good chance |
Warpy |
Jun-25-09 10:59 AM |
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My facts |
rustydad |
Jun-26-09 11:35 AM |
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Oh Bob! |
laylah |
Jun-26-09 05:16 PM |
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I'm very sorry for your loss. |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:33 AM |
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Thanks |
rustydad |
Jun-27-09 08:48 PM |
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I'm so sorry for your loss. My mom was a similarly tough bird whose last 2 years were hell... |
Hekate |
Jun-27-09 08:41 PM |
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my story is pretty much the same |
frogcycle |
Jun-28-09 09:06 AM |
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"Let Grandma Die for the greater good of.... AFLAC?" |
Happy Vic |
Jun-25-09 04:26 PM |
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AFLAC |
Abq_Sarah |
Jun-26-09 11:39 AM |
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Throw Grandma under the Bus... |
Happy Vic |
Jun-26-09 04:21 PM |
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Grannie |
Abq_Sarah |
Jun-26-09 04:30 PM |
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My father left instructions that he.... |
Lagomorph |
Jun-27-09 01:49 AM |
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I think your dad made the right choice |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:39 AM |
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He made the call |
Happy Vic |
Jun-27-09 01:02 PM |
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I'm sorry for your loss. My folks also died as they wished to: without prolonging the final episode |
Hekate |
Jun-27-09 08:48 PM |
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Would you or your family accept compassionate counseling from medical/psych professionals? |
Hekate |
Jun-27-09 08:35 PM |
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fine. suggest it obama. now, I suggest |
Mari333 |
Jun-25-09 10:12 AM |
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I always feel like reserving a room for you somewhere here for when the ship is going to sink. |
Democracyinkind |
Jun-25-09 10:23 AM |
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.. |
Mari333 |
Jun-25-09 10:48 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jun-25-09 11:14 AM |
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INDEED. |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 04:42 PM |
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Hear, hear! |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:42 AM |
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What a poorly written article |
bluestateguy |
Jun-25-09 10:16 AM |
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I agree because people are getting tortured before they die. |
Joanne98 |
Jun-25-09 10:23 AM |
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Depends on what you want.... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:25 AM |
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i think you are wrong about that. |
mopinko |
Jun-25-09 10:50 AM |
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Most people's survival instinct is pretty high... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:52 AM |
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old is when your quality of life already sucks. |
mopinko |
Jun-25-09 11:26 AM |
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My sister is an MSW for a hospice. |
TimesSquareCowboy |
Jun-25-09 10:42 AM |
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I watched the discussion and got a totally different feel from it |
high density |
Jun-25-09 10:25 AM |
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Sob Stories? |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 12:58 PM |
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There is no sanctuary |
Baclava |
Jun-25-09 10:26 AM |
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Haha.... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:31 AM |
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The book had them expire at 21 instead of 30 in the movie. |
Baclava |
Jun-26-09 06:50 PM |
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I've got friends living active lives in their 80s and 90s. |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:47 AM |
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It was also stated |
get the red out |
Jun-25-09 10:27 AM |
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He should just say what the truth is |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-25-09 10:30 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jun-25-09 11:16 AM |
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Thank you |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 01:01 PM |
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I am in favor of voluntary euthanasia |
JonQ |
Jun-25-09 10:32 AM |
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Of course we can't treat people exhaustively when treatment does no good |
stray cat |
Jun-25-09 10:33 AM |
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It's a harsh truth, but it;s a truth. Other countries deal with this. Why can't we? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-25-09 04:47 PM |
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9 months would be a long time to lay in a bed with a broken hip. |
cornermouse |
Jun-25-09 10:40 AM |
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We fix broken bones--. I think he comes across crass on |
sisters6 |
Jun-25-09 04:03 PM |
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Did you even watch it? Or are you just going by this story? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-25-09 04:46 PM |
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My wifes grandmother |
madokie |
Jun-25-09 10:48 AM |
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I'm sorry for your experience. That's awful. |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 04:44 PM |
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I believe this is the crucial "third part" of the health care reform question: |
Ron Green |
Jun-25-09 10:54 AM |
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I believe that's why it's so important to have it in writing… |
These Eyes |
Jun-25-09 11:16 AM |
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Definitely have a Living Will |
Dappleganger |
Jun-25-09 11:22 AM |
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Oh gheesh. |
ohheckyeah |
Jun-25-09 01:31 PM |
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The medical industry book$ $ERIOU$ g'een$ |
Karenina |
Jun-25-09 01:33 PM |
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I don't think most people are forced to get treatments they don't want |
JonQ |
Jun-25-09 01:54 PM |
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This concerns me. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-25-09 02:28 PM |
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Ever heard of eugenics? |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 02:45 PM |
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Of course I do, that's exactly why I'm, concerned. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-25-09 02:50 PM |
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Obama was out of line--very much so-speaking the way he did. It |
sisters6 |
Jun-25-09 04:14 PM |
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No he wasnt. |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 04:41 PM |
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............ |
sisters6 |
Jun-26-09 10:48 AM |
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Umm, that's why he said he wants people to have good INFORMATION from doctors |
NYC Liberal |
Jun-26-09 05:58 PM |
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He didn't say ANYTHING like what you are suggesting. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-25-09 04:41 PM |
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2-B-R-0-2-B |
Blandocyte |
Jun-25-09 03:17 PM |
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It's a good point he makes. Remember the idiots who thought Terri Shiavo could "wake up"... |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 04:39 PM |
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That was my first thought. I could not believe the stupidity on this very forum... |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-27-09 06:06 AM |
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the Office of Medical Rationing will know when to pull your plug .nt |
excess_3 |
Jun-26-09 12:35 AM |
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the first thing we need is a massive across the board study |
hedgehog |
Jun-26-09 11:53 AM |
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It's very touching that everyone brings up the exceptions here, but the fact |
Zynx |
Jun-26-09 04:55 PM |
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I agree. |
Arugula Latte |
Jun-26-09 05:51 PM |
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Oh shit, he just stepped in a pile of potential dogshit |
Taverner |
Jun-26-09 05:24 PM |
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This is just common sense advice. There should be a mortality age for each person. |
Xenotime |
Jun-26-09 06:25 PM |
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While you're at it, there should be rules on who you can marry |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jun-26-09 08:41 PM |
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Now you are just being ridiculous. |
Xenotime |
Jun-26-09 08:58 PM |
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And what would happen when a person |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:53 AM |
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A Brave New World, isn't it Xenotime? |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-28-09 01:04 AM |
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How about a time machine to the late 1930's and a plane ticket home for you |
The Straight Story |
Jun-28-09 12:27 PM |
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Oh god here we go..................... |
JeanGrey |
Jun-26-09 08:07 PM |
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Soylent Green you can believe in! |
Karmadillo |
Jun-27-09 01:56 AM |
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It says right in the quote: |
boppers |
Jun-27-09 08:51 PM |
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Family should make those decisions, not the State |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-27-09 08:55 PM |
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I don't think Obama was even close to talking about euthanasia |
dflprincess |
Jun-27-09 10:04 PM |
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When I reach 94 years old or whatever |
harry_pothead |
Jun-27-09 09:58 PM |
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Doctors were not honest enough with my husband when his father had cancer. They "sell" the |
No Elephants |
Jun-28-09 08:03 AM |
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This country is in love with credentialism. As if doctors know all outcomes. |
mbperrin |
Jun-28-09 08:25 AM |
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Everyone should have a living will |
primavera |
Jun-28-09 10:28 AM |
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My mother has stipulated that if she dies, they are not to try recuscitate her |
lunatica |
Jun-28-09 04:54 PM |
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