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passed away a few years back at the age of 102. The last two weeks of her life was a living hell. The doctors were doing exploratory surgery on this woman and all she wanted to do was to die, go on to what she felt was her reward for living a good long life. Finally after days of this I spoke up and asked the doctors what the hell they were trying to prove, putting this 102 year old person through all this hell when it was obvious that she was dying. I'm still mad about it all these years later. The doc's looked like I had shot them when I asked them what the fuck are you guys thinking. We all knew what they were thinking and they knew that I knew what they were doing. The exploratory surgeries stopped and a few days later she passed on. To this day I feel guilt for not having spoke up earlier to save her the agony of being autopsied while still alive. My regret is that I didn't talk to an attorney about this, not to sue for money but to get it out in the open as to what they were doing and are more than likely still doing.
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| -Obama discusses deathbed measures |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:08 AM |
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hopefully not the same people who work at the DMV, should be the patient though. |
vadawg |
Jun-25-09 10:10 AM |
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Fuck that noise |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 10:12 AM |
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Not sure if I'd even trust some in my family... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:13 AM |
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I certainly wouldn't trust those decisions in my loved ones being made by your family |
AngryAmish |
Jun-25-09 04:04 PM |
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I would hope that someone would give you the facts |
Warpy |
Jun-25-09 10:25 AM |
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You think coronary bypass is a drastic surgery? |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 10:29 AM |
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Excuse me, there's a difference between major and routine |
Warpy |
Jun-25-09 11:01 AM |
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My dad had a quadruple coronary bypass when he was 73 |
thecrow |
Jun-25-09 10:42 AM |
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He probably had a good chance |
Warpy |
Jun-25-09 10:59 AM |
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My facts |
rustydad |
Jun-26-09 11:35 AM |
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Oh Bob! |
laylah |
Jun-26-09 05:16 PM |
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I'm very sorry for your loss. |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:33 AM |
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Thanks |
rustydad |
Jun-27-09 08:48 PM |
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I'm so sorry for your loss. My mom was a similarly tough bird whose last 2 years were hell... |
Hekate |
Jun-27-09 08:41 PM |
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my story is pretty much the same |
frogcycle |
Jun-28-09 09:06 AM |
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"Let Grandma Die for the greater good of.... AFLAC?" |
Happy Vic |
Jun-25-09 04:26 PM |
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AFLAC |
Abq_Sarah |
Jun-26-09 11:39 AM |
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Throw Grandma under the Bus... |
Happy Vic |
Jun-26-09 04:21 PM |
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Grannie |
Abq_Sarah |
Jun-26-09 04:30 PM |
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My father left instructions that he.... |
Lagomorph |
Jun-27-09 01:49 AM |
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I think your dad made the right choice |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:39 AM |
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He made the call |
Happy Vic |
Jun-27-09 01:02 PM |
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I'm sorry for your loss. My folks also died as they wished to: without prolonging the final episode |
Hekate |
Jun-27-09 08:48 PM |
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Would you or your family accept compassionate counseling from medical/psych professionals? |
Hekate |
Jun-27-09 08:35 PM |
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fine. suggest it obama. now, I suggest |
Mari333 |
Jun-25-09 10:12 AM |
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I always feel like reserving a room for you somewhere here for when the ship is going to sink. |
Democracyinkind |
Jun-25-09 10:23 AM |
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.. |
Mari333 |
Jun-25-09 10:48 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jun-25-09 11:14 AM |
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INDEED. |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 04:42 PM |
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Hear, hear! |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:42 AM |
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What a poorly written article |
bluestateguy |
Jun-25-09 10:16 AM |
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I agree because people are getting tortured before they die. |
Joanne98 |
Jun-25-09 10:23 AM |
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Depends on what you want.... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:25 AM |
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i think you are wrong about that. |
mopinko |
Jun-25-09 10:50 AM |
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Most people's survival instinct is pretty high... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:52 AM |
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old is when your quality of life already sucks. |
mopinko |
Jun-25-09 11:26 AM |
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My sister is an MSW for a hospice. |
TimesSquareCowboy |
Jun-25-09 10:42 AM |
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I watched the discussion and got a totally different feel from it |
high density |
Jun-25-09 10:25 AM |
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Sob Stories? |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 12:58 PM |
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There is no sanctuary |
Baclava |
Jun-25-09 10:26 AM |
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Haha.... |
WriteDown |
Jun-25-09 10:31 AM |
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The book had them expire at 21 instead of 30 in the movie. |
Baclava |
Jun-26-09 06:50 PM |
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I've got friends living active lives in their 80s and 90s. |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:47 AM |
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It was also stated |
get the red out |
Jun-25-09 10:27 AM |
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He should just say what the truth is |
Bluenorthwest |
Jun-25-09 10:30 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jun-25-09 11:16 AM |
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Thank you |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 01:01 PM |
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I am in favor of voluntary euthanasia |
JonQ |
Jun-25-09 10:32 AM |
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Of course we can't treat people exhaustively when treatment does no good |
stray cat |
Jun-25-09 10:33 AM |
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It's a harsh truth, but it;s a truth. Other countries deal with this. Why can't we? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-25-09 04:47 PM |
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9 months would be a long time to lay in a bed with a broken hip. |
cornermouse |
Jun-25-09 10:40 AM |
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We fix broken bones--. I think he comes across crass on |
sisters6 |
Jun-25-09 04:03 PM |
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Did you even watch it? Or are you just going by this story? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-25-09 04:46 PM |
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My wifes grandmother |
madokie |
Jun-25-09 10:48 AM |
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I'm sorry for your experience. That's awful. |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 04:44 PM |
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I believe this is the crucial "third part" of the health care reform question: |
Ron Green |
Jun-25-09 10:54 AM |
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I believe that's why it's so important to have it in writing… |
These Eyes |
Jun-25-09 11:16 AM |
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Definitely have a Living Will |
Dappleganger |
Jun-25-09 11:22 AM |
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Oh gheesh. |
ohheckyeah |
Jun-25-09 01:31 PM |
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The medical industry book$ $ERIOU$ g'een$ |
Karenina |
Jun-25-09 01:33 PM |
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I don't think most people are forced to get treatments they don't want |
JonQ |
Jun-25-09 01:54 PM |
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This concerns me. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-25-09 02:28 PM |
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Ever heard of eugenics? |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 02:45 PM |
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Of course I do, that's exactly why I'm, concerned. |
Odin2005 |
Jun-25-09 02:50 PM |
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Obama was out of line--very much so-speaking the way he did. It |
sisters6 |
Jun-25-09 04:14 PM |
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No he wasnt. |
newinnm |
Jun-25-09 04:41 PM |
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............ |
sisters6 |
Jun-26-09 10:48 AM |
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Umm, that's why he said he wants people to have good INFORMATION from doctors |
NYC Liberal |
Jun-26-09 05:58 PM |
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He didn't say ANYTHING like what you are suggesting. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-25-09 04:41 PM |
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2-B-R-0-2-B |
Blandocyte |
Jun-25-09 03:17 PM |
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It's a good point he makes. Remember the idiots who thought Terri Shiavo could "wake up"... |
Zhade |
Jun-25-09 04:39 PM |
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That was my first thought. I could not believe the stupidity on this very forum... |
Frank Cannon |
Jun-27-09 06:06 AM |
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the Office of Medical Rationing will know when to pull your plug .nt |
excess_3 |
Jun-26-09 12:35 AM |
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the first thing we need is a massive across the board study |
hedgehog |
Jun-26-09 11:53 AM |
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It's very touching that everyone brings up the exceptions here, but the fact |
Zynx |
Jun-26-09 04:55 PM |
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I agree. |
Arugula Latte |
Jun-26-09 05:51 PM |
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Oh shit, he just stepped in a pile of potential dogshit |
Taverner |
Jun-26-09 05:24 PM |
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This is just common sense advice. There should be a mortality age for each person. |
Xenotime |
Jun-26-09 06:25 PM |
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While you're at it, there should be rules on who you can marry |
DatManFromNawlins |
Jun-26-09 08:41 PM |
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Now you are just being ridiculous. |
Xenotime |
Jun-26-09 08:58 PM |
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And what would happen when a person |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-27-09 05:53 AM |
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A Brave New World, isn't it Xenotime? |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-28-09 01:04 AM |
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How about a time machine to the late 1930's and a plane ticket home for you |
The Straight Story |
Jun-28-09 12:27 PM |
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Oh god here we go..................... |
JeanGrey |
Jun-26-09 08:07 PM |
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Soylent Green you can believe in! |
Karmadillo |
Jun-27-09 01:56 AM |
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It says right in the quote: |
boppers |
Jun-27-09 08:51 PM |
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Family should make those decisions, not the State |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-27-09 08:55 PM |
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I don't think Obama was even close to talking about euthanasia |
dflprincess |
Jun-27-09 10:04 PM |
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When I reach 94 years old or whatever |
harry_pothead |
Jun-27-09 09:58 PM |
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Doctors were not honest enough with my husband when his father had cancer. They "sell" the |
No Elephants |
Jun-28-09 08:03 AM |
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This country is in love with credentialism. As if doctors know all outcomes. |
mbperrin |
Jun-28-09 08:25 AM |
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Everyone should have a living will |
primavera |
Jun-28-09 10:28 AM |
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My mother has stipulated that if she dies, they are not to try recuscitate her |
lunatica |
Jun-28-09 04:54 PM |
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