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newinnm Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 10:12 AM
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2. Fuck that noise
If its one of my family. The only people in the right position to make that decision is my family. No god dam insurance company, hospital executive or government bureaucrat should do that.

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  -Obama discusses deathbed measures WriteDown  Jun-25-09 10:08 AM   #0 
  - hopefully not the same people who work at the DMV, should be the patient though.  vadawg   Jun-25-09 10:10 AM   #1 
  - Fuck that noise  newinnm   Jun-25-09 10:12 AM   #2 
  - Not sure if I'd even trust some in my family...  WriteDown   Jun-25-09 10:13 AM   #4 
  - I certainly wouldn't trust those decisions in my loved ones being made by your family  AngryAmish   Jun-25-09 04:04 PM   #43 
  - I would hope that someone would give you the facts  Warpy   Jun-25-09 10:25 AM   #10 
  - You think coronary bypass is a drastic surgery?  newinnm   Jun-25-09 10:29 AM   #13 
  - Excuse me, there's a difference between major and routine  Warpy   Jun-25-09 11:01 AM   #27 
  - My dad had a quadruple coronary bypass when he was 73  thecrow   Jun-25-09 10:42 AM   #19 
  - He probably had a good chance  Warpy   Jun-25-09 10:59 AM   #26 
  - My facts  rustydad   Jun-26-09 11:35 AM   #55 
     - Oh Bob!  laylah   Jun-26-09 05:16 PM   #61 
     - I'm very sorry for your loss.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-27-09 05:33 AM   #72 
     - Thanks  rustydad   Jun-27-09 08:48 PM   #82 
     - I'm so sorry for your loss. My mom was a similarly tough bird whose last 2 years were hell...  Hekate   Jun-27-09 08:41 PM   #80 
     - my story is pretty much the same  frogcycle   Jun-28-09 09:06 AM   #90 
  - "Let Grandma Die for the greater good of.... AFLAC?"  Happy Vic   Jun-25-09 04:26 PM   #45 
  - AFLAC  Abq_Sarah   Jun-26-09 11:39 AM   #56 
     - Throw Grandma under the Bus...  Happy Vic   Jun-26-09 04:21 PM   #58 
        - Grannie  Abq_Sarah   Jun-26-09 04:30 PM   #59 
  - My father left instructions that he....  Lagomorph   Jun-27-09 01:49 AM   #70 
  - I think your dad made the right choice  DemBones DemBones   Jun-27-09 05:39 AM   #73 
  - He made the call  Happy Vic   Jun-27-09 01:02 PM   #78 
  - I'm sorry for your loss. My folks also died as they wished to: without prolonging the final episode  Hekate   Jun-27-09 08:48 PM   #81 
  - Would you or your family accept compassionate counseling from medical/psych professionals?  Hekate   Jun-27-09 08:35 PM   #79 
  - fine. suggest it obama. now, I suggest  Mari333   Jun-25-09 10:12 AM   #3 
  - I always feel like reserving a room for you somewhere here for when the ship is going to sink.  Democracyinkind   Jun-25-09 10:23 AM   #7 
  - ..  Mari333   Jun-25-09 10:48 AM   #21 
  - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Jun-25-09 11:14 AM   #28 
  - INDEED.  Zhade   Jun-25-09 04:42 PM   #49 
  - Hear, hear!  DemBones DemBones   Jun-27-09 05:42 AM   #74 
  - What a poorly written article  bluestateguy   Jun-25-09 10:16 AM   #5 
  - I agree because people are getting tortured before they die.  Joanne98   Jun-25-09 10:23 AM   #6 
  - Depends on what you want....  WriteDown   Jun-25-09 10:25 AM   #8 
  - i think you are wrong about that.  mopinko   Jun-25-09 10:50 AM   #23 
     - Most people's survival instinct is pretty high...  WriteDown   Jun-25-09 10:52 AM   #24 
        - old is when your quality of life already sucks.  mopinko   Jun-25-09 11:26 AM   #32 
  - My sister is an MSW for a hospice.  TimesSquareCowboy   Jun-25-09 10:42 AM   #20 
  - I watched the discussion and got a totally different feel from it  high density   Jun-25-09 10:25 AM   #9 
  - Sob Stories?  newinnm   Jun-25-09 12:58 PM   #33 
  - There is no sanctuary  Baclava   Jun-25-09 10:26 AM   #11 
  - Haha....  WriteDown   Jun-25-09 10:31 AM   #15 
     - The book had them expire at 21 instead of 30 in the movie.  Baclava   Jun-26-09 06:50 PM   #66 
        - I've got friends living active lives in their 80s and 90s.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-27-09 05:47 AM   #75 
  - It was also stated  get the red out   Jun-25-09 10:27 AM   #12 
  - He should just say what the truth is  Bluenorthwest   Jun-25-09 10:30 AM   #14 
  - +1  SammyWinstonJack   Jun-25-09 11:16 AM   #30 
  - Thank you  newinnm   Jun-25-09 01:01 PM   #34 
  - I am in favor of voluntary euthanasia  JonQ   Jun-25-09 10:32 AM   #16 
  - Of course we can't treat people exhaustively when treatment does no good  stray cat   Jun-25-09 10:33 AM   #17 
  - It's a harsh truth, but it;s a truth. Other countries deal with this. Why can't we?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-25-09 04:47 PM   #52 
  - 9 months would be a long time to lay in a bed with a broken hip.  cornermouse   Jun-25-09 10:40 AM   #18 
  - We fix broken bones--. I think he comes across crass on  sisters6   Jun-25-09 04:03 PM   #42 
     - Did you even watch it? Or are you just going by this story?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-25-09 04:46 PM   #51 
  - My wifes grandmother  madokie   Jun-25-09 10:48 AM   #22 
  - I'm sorry for your experience. That's awful.  Zhade   Jun-25-09 04:44 PM   #50 
  - I believe this is the crucial "third part" of the health care reform question:  Ron Green   Jun-25-09 10:54 AM   #25 
  - I believe that's why it's so important to have it in writing  These Eyes   Jun-25-09 11:16 AM   #29 
  - Definitely have a Living Will  Dappleganger   Jun-25-09 11:22 AM   #31 
  - Oh gheesh.  ohheckyeah   Jun-25-09 01:31 PM   #35 
  - The medical industry book$ $ERIOU$ g'een$  Karenina   Jun-25-09 01:33 PM   #36 
  - I don't think most people are forced to get treatments they don't want  JonQ   Jun-25-09 01:54 PM   #37 
  - This concerns me.  Odin2005   Jun-25-09 02:28 PM   #38 
  - Ever heard of eugenics?  newinnm   Jun-25-09 02:45 PM   #39 
  - Of course I do, that's exactly why I'm, concerned.  Odin2005   Jun-25-09 02:50 PM   #40 
  - Obama was out of line--very much so-speaking the way he did. It  sisters6   Jun-25-09 04:14 PM   #44 
     - No he wasnt.  newinnm   Jun-25-09 04:41 PM   #47 
     - ............  sisters6   Jun-26-09 10:48 AM   #54 
        - Umm, that's why he said he wants people to have good INFORMATION from doctors  NYC Liberal   Jun-26-09 05:58 PM   #64 
     - He didn't say ANYTHING like what you are suggesting.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-25-09 04:41 PM   #48 
  - 2-B-R-0-2-B  Blandocyte   Jun-25-09 03:17 PM   #41 
  - It's a good point he makes. Remember the idiots who thought Terri Shiavo could "wake up"...  Zhade   Jun-25-09 04:39 PM   #46 
  - That was my first thought. I could not believe the stupidity on this very forum...  Frank Cannon   Jun-27-09 06:06 AM   #77 
  - the Office of Medical Rationing will know when to pull your plug .nt  excess_3   Jun-26-09 12:35 AM   #53 
  - the first thing we need is a massive across the board study  hedgehog   Jun-26-09 11:53 AM   #57 
  - It's very touching that everyone brings up the exceptions here, but the fact  Zynx   Jun-26-09 04:55 PM   #60 
  - I agree.  Arugula Latte   Jun-26-09 05:51 PM   #63 
  - Oh shit, he just stepped in a pile of potential dogshit  Taverner   Jun-26-09 05:24 PM   #62 
  - This is just common sense advice. There should be a mortality age for each person.  Xenotime   Jun-26-09 06:25 PM   #65 
  - While you're at it, there should be rules on who you can marry  DatManFromNawlins   Jun-26-09 08:41 PM   #68 
  - Now you are just being ridiculous.  Xenotime   Jun-26-09 08:58 PM   #69 
  - And what would happen when a person  DemBones DemBones   Jun-27-09 05:53 AM   #76 
  - A Brave New World, isn't it Xenotime?  IndianaGreen   Jun-28-09 01:04 AM   #87 
  - How about a time machine to the late 1930's and a plane ticket home for you  The Straight Story   Jun-28-09 12:27 PM   #92 
  - Oh god here we go.....................  JeanGrey   Jun-26-09 08:07 PM   #67 
  - Soylent Green you can believe in!  Karmadillo   Jun-27-09 01:56 AM   #71 
  - It says right in the quote:  boppers   Jun-27-09 08:51 PM   #83 
  - Family should make those decisions, not the State  IndianaGreen   Jun-27-09 08:55 PM   #84 
  - I don't think Obama was even close to talking about euthanasia  dflprincess   Jun-27-09 10:04 PM   #86 
  - When I reach 94 years old or whatever  harry_pothead   Jun-27-09 09:58 PM   #85 
  - Doctors were not honest enough with my husband when his father had cancer. They "sell" the  No Elephants   Jun-28-09 08:03 AM   #88 
  - This country is in love with credentialism. As if doctors know all outcomes.  mbperrin   Jun-28-09 08:25 AM   #89 
  - Everyone should have a living will  primavera   Jun-28-09 10:28 AM   #91 
  - My mother has stipulated that if she dies, they are not to try recuscitate her  lunatica   Jun-28-09 04:54 PM   #93 

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