HopeHoops
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Fri Jun-05-09 08:12 AM
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| Tenn. lawmakers approve allowing guns in bars |
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Source: AP via Yahoo! NewsNASHVILLE, Tenn. – Handguns will soon be allowed in bars and restaurants in Tennessee under a new law passed by state legislators who voted to override the governor's veto. The legislation that takes effect July 14 retains an existing ban on consuming alcohol while carrying a handgun, and restaurant owners can still opt to ban weapons from their establishments. .... Bredesen spokeswoman Lydia Lenker said after Wednesday's House vote that the Democratic governor expected an override when he vetoed the legislation last week. Following Thursday's Senate vote, Bredesen, who is a gun owner and hunter, reiterated his stance to reporters. "I still think I'm right," he said. "I still think that guns in bars is a very bad idea. It's an invitation to a disaster." Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090605/ap_on_re_us/us_xgr_... ;_ylt=AiuFV.lHVmomPz6RuzH_jhCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTJ1Z2VrdTcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDA5MDYwNS9hcF9vbl9yZV91cy91c194Z3JfZ3Vuc19pbl9iYXJzBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawN0ZW5ubGF3bWFrZXI
"invitation to a disaster" - Ya think? Why the HELL would you want guns in bars in the FIRST place? And it states that the ban on consuming alcohol while carrying a handgun is still in place. I'm SO sure that will be enforced. The clock is ticking...
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 Tenn. lawmakers approve allowing guns in bars |
HopeHoops |
Jun-05-09 08:12 AM |
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Guns + alcohol |
47of74 |
Jun-05-09 08:14 AM |
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Guns + alcohol + the highest rate of depression in the US |
TommyO |
Jun-05-09 10:17 AM |
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kick |
ensho |
Jun-05-09 11:21 AM |
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Or letting poor people have guns |
JonQ |
Jun-09-09 11:46 AM |
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On the positive side, a bunch of rednecks will end up shooting themselves |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-05-09 06:08 PM |
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Ahh - I see future Darwin Awards... |
TankLV |
Jun-07-09 03:35 PM |
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And anyone else who happens to be in the way of their bullets |
panzerfaust |
Jun-08-09 08:44 PM |
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Peter S. Lyde Jr., a gentle big man, dies at 25 (Philly Daily News | 5 June) |
struggle4progress |
Jun-05-09 06:34 PM |
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Did the shooters have concealed handgun permits? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 12:32 AM |
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Oh, I'm SURE that's the TOP question Lyde's family and friends are asking themselves today |
struggle4progress |
Jun-06-09 01:33 AM |
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Never miss an opportunity to turn someone's tragedy into your personal political soapbox. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 01:36 AM |
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FACT: "guns+alcohol=real people shot." Policy should follow facts |
struggle4progress |
Jun-06-09 01:57 AM |
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More like Criminals+Illegal Guns+Alcohol. At least according to your stories. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 11:42 AM |
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You mean, kind of like you're doing now? |
primavera |
Jun-08-09 12:41 PM |
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Exactly right, Primavera. "Pot, meet Kettle" |
FailureToCommunicate |
Jun-09-09 12:14 PM |
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If Lyde's killer didn't have a CHL, then why did you post the story? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-09-09 06:23 PM |
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"...Peter was proud of being the grandson of Joe Frazier..." nt |
xxqqqzme |
Jun-09-09 01:09 PM |
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Bar Fight Leads to Fatal Shooting (Fox Houston | 5 June) |
struggle4progress |
Jun-05-09 06:35 PM |
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Did the shooter have a Concealed Handgun Permit? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 12:33 AM |
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Richmond man agrees to plead guilty to felony charges in shooting death case |
struggle4progress |
Jun-05-09 06:37 PM |
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"Maish in April for the obstruction and unlicensed handgun charges" |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 12:36 AM |
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I remember this. |
dotymed |
Jun-09-09 09:29 AM |
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Oh, Gawd. Even in the Old West, some bars made you check your guns at the door. |
Honeycombe8 |
Jun-06-09 02:49 PM |
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Unfortunately, when it comes to guns, we've devolved since then |
primavera |
Jun-08-09 12:45 PM |
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Only in Tennessee. Unbelievable. |
K Gardner |
Jun-05-09 08:17 AM |
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I don't know - Texas seems like another place this could happen |
HopeHoops |
Jun-05-09 08:57 AM |
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Nah, licensed or unlicensed, carry into a Texas business receiving 51% |
mbperrin |
Jun-05-09 09:46 AM |
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Actually, there are many states.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-05-09 09:46 AM |
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Burning question, how easy is it to obtain a concealed carry in these |
eilen |
Jun-05-09 06:02 PM |
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There are only two states.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-05-09 06:25 PM |
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Only in 37 other states |
michreject |
Jun-06-09 09:54 AM |
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O'rly...? |
-..__... |
Jun-07-09 10:26 PM |
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Can you nominate an entire state for a Darwin Award? |
tanyev |
Jun-05-09 08:19 AM |
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Not until the entire state permanently removes itself from the gene pool |
tularetom |
Jun-05-09 09:15 AM |
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okay, okay, okay, okay...let me get this straight...you cannot consume alcohol while carrying.. |
angstlessk |
Jun-05-09 08:21 AM |
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VERY clean summary! |
HopeHoops |
Jun-05-09 08:22 AM |
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why does anyone go to a bar really? |
Old Hob |
Jun-05-09 08:26 AM |
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To wait for a priest, a rabbi, and a naked blonde with a poodle under her arm to walk in. |
HopeHoops |
Jun-05-09 08:37 AM |
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now THAT was rib tickling funny!!! |
angstlessk |
Jun-05-09 09:25 AM |
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It's a good day for Designated Drivers and AAers who still socialize with their drinking friends |
slackmaster |
Jun-05-09 08:39 AM |
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thought it was against AA rules to go to a bar or parties where they drink alcohol? |
angstlessk |
Jun-05-09 09:27 AM |
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Not that I am aware of |
slackmaster |
Jun-05-09 09:37 AM |
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well, ya know, people who DON'T shoot people don't get their stories in the news |
angstlessk |
Jun-05-09 09:45 AM |
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Millions of people carry weapons legally every day without incident |
slackmaster |
Jun-05-09 09:48 AM |
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160 convictions, in one year (2007), in Texas. |
boppers |
Jun-06-09 02:31 AM |
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160 out of 350k licensees |
X_Digger |
Jun-06-09 12:18 PM |
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I guess he can't cherry pick that. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 08:08 PM |
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9,000 dead every year from alcohol-intoxicated homicide |
SOS |
Jun-10-09 11:35 AM |
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if AA rules had stated: "You are hereby prohibited to be ANYWHERE alcohol is served" |
stlsaxman |
Jun-05-09 10:27 AM |
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AAers can go anywhere they want as long as there's a reason |
TrogL |
Jun-05-09 02:56 PM |
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I have certainly received lessons by responding to this particular post! |
angstlessk |
Jun-05-09 06:16 PM |
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Because a whole lot of restaurants you might want to take your family to have bars or wine lists. nt |
benEzra |
Jun-05-09 02:08 PM |
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Name removed |
Jun-05-09 08:40 AM |
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This is just another straw piling on after the fact |
wysimdnwyg |
Jun-05-09 08:44 AM |
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We tried this in Virginia under Gov. Macaca. He called it (I shit you not), The Saloon Bill |
mikeytherat |
Jun-05-09 08:48 AM |
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Guns are allowed in Virginia in bars right now. |
Tim01 |
Jun-05-09 09:51 AM |
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Just like the good ol' days of Wild Bill Hickok |
JenniferJuniper |
Jun-05-09 08:53 AM |
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Good! Now maybe the Freepers can bring their guns and party |
Lucky Luciano |
Jun-05-09 09:18 AM |
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So what. Virginia has always allowed guns in bars. It doesn't matter. |
Tim01 |
Jun-05-09 09:48 AM |
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Can't wait to see Red State Update's Jackie and Dunlap do a video about this! |
stlsaxman |
Jun-05-09 10:31 AM |
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Redneck population control. |
Turbineguy |
Jun-05-09 11:05 AM |
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Reducing the excess American population. |
Karenina |
Jun-05-09 02:40 PM |
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Guns in bars....how long till the first Saturday night shootout? |
DebbieCDC |
Jun-05-09 03:39 PM |
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Idiots. They don't use data to make these decisions. Only politics. Lookin' for votes |
truthisfreedom |
Jun-05-09 06:19 PM |
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Smell the irony.. |
X_Digger |
Jun-05-09 06:30 PM |
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I'm guessing we won't see an answer here. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 12:31 AM |
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It is not only in bars. It is whereever they want to go, ie, |
MISSDem |
Jun-05-09 07:40 PM |
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If a bar owner doesn't want firearms |
Abq_Sarah |
Jun-05-09 09:45 PM |
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Wonder what the fine is |
Blandocyte |
Jun-06-09 07:43 AM |
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If they've posted a 'no guns' sign, it's criminal trespass & loss of license |
X_Digger |
Jun-06-09 12:19 PM |
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Why? Because second amendment rights trump every other right according |
Lorien |
Jun-06-09 10:32 AM |
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Quote one person here that said that. Come on let's see it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-06-09 08:09 PM |
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Got any evidence to back up your 'faith enhancing rumor'? |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-09-09 06:13 PM |
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Is this just 'bars' or 'places that serve alcohol' |
Endangered Specie |
Jun-06-09 12:15 PM |
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Any restaurant that serves alcohol in any form whatsoever. It's not about "bars" |
benEzra |
Jun-07-09 05:02 PM |
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I went to Bud's in Milton, Washington one time |
JonLP24 |
Jun-08-09 12:40 PM |
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"La la la la la la la" Nope. Can't hear you....Lal la.... |
TankLV |
Jun-07-09 03:34 PM |
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You do know this is about allowing the nondrinking to carry in restaurants |
benEzra |
Jun-07-09 05:04 PM |
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I´m Convinced that gun Pushers are tapped in the Head |
fascisthunter |
Jun-07-09 05:33 PM |
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Who pray tell is doing that? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jun-07-09 06:21 PM |
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Thanks, I thought I was the only one. |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-08-09 02:01 PM |
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Yet to see a news report that gets this correct. |
ManiacJoe |
Jun-08-09 02:15 AM |
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That's not what the governor said: "I still think that guns in bars is a very bad idea. It's an |
struggle4progress |
Jun-08-09 06:54 AM |
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I read the bill, unlike you. |
ManiacJoe |
Jun-08-09 12:30 PM |
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The Todd bill was substituted for the Jackson bill that mentioned restaurants |
struggle4progress |
Jun-08-09 04:45 PM |
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Exactly. |
ManiacJoe |
Jun-08-09 11:29 PM |
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No guns allowed unless the under-21 crowd has a fair chance to be shot, eh? |
struggle4progress |
Jun-09-09 08:44 AM |
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It is not phrased well in the summary. |
ManiacJoe |
Jun-09-09 05:59 PM |
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Is someone hoping for Darwin Awards to kick in? |
zelta gaisma |
Jun-08-09 04:33 AM |
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The 'IN BARS!!!!!!!! part is really more hyperbolie then anthing. |
cslinger59 |
Jun-08-09 09:58 AM |
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A lot of local police officers fought this bill, but the republicans wanted their names |
Strathos |
Jun-08-09 10:37 AM |
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Another poster in a fog |
michreject |
Jun-08-09 10:51 AM |
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Who the fuck are you talking to? |
Strathos |
Jun-08-09 08:18 PM |
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I believe he means you |
friendly_iconoclast |
Jun-09-09 06:20 PM |
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The OP |
michreject |
Jun-10-09 10:15 AM |
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Not all those local police officers were there by choice |
cslinger59 |
Jun-08-09 10:52 AM |
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Even stupider than guns in church. |
Vidar |
Jun-08-09 12:39 PM |
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But prostitution is still illegal, right? |
Chovexani |
Jun-08-09 01:35 PM |
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Serious Question of Forum Etiquette |
cslinger59 |
Jun-08-09 02:05 PM |
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This note attached to the top of the guns forum should give you some guidance. |
cbayer |
Jun-08-09 09:26 PM |
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Firearm-related topics remain in LBN or GD until the personal attacks get to a certain level |
slackmaster |
Jun-09-09 09:40 AM |
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Idioten |
panzerfaust |
Jun-08-09 08:42 PM |
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GAWD! How embarrassing it is to live in such.... |
Claire Beth |
Jun-09-09 07:49 AM |
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X FELONY |
dotymed |
Jun-09-09 09:25 AM |
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I can hear the Lynyrd Skynyrd lyric as we speak: |
maddogesq |
Jun-09-09 09:28 AM |
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And you disregard the fact that the bill applies only to people who are NOT DRINKING |
slackmaster |
Jun-09-09 09:55 AM |
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Oh this is just opening a WORLD of stupid in Tennessee |
LynneSin |
Jun-09-09 09:36 AM |
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Being in California I don't really care, but if I happen to travel to Tennessee, |
slackmaster |
Jun-09-09 09:43 AM |
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Grew up in and around Baltimore now live in Nashville |
cslinger59 |
Jun-09-09 11:13 AM |
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Baltimore has a murder rate of 36.9/100k, nashville 12.6 |
X_Digger |
Jun-09-09 11:21 PM |
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Guns and beer |
sakabatou |
Jun-09-09 11:46 AM |
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Nothing that isn't already and will continue to be a problem |
cslinger59 |
Jun-09-09 12:14 PM |
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This is a really bad idea |
LibertyLover |
Jun-09-09 12:41 PM |
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A majority of states already allow this, no big deal |
X_Digger |
Jun-09-09 11:25 PM |
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There is a long tradition of guns in bars in Tenn. |
county worker |
Jun-09-09 03:07 PM |
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha |
DS1 |
Jun-10-09 11:37 AM |
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