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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:34 PM
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17. Saw that. Bill Moyers Journal last week was "Torturing Democracy." I hope you catch the podcast.
We HAVE to stop letting them refer only to waterboarding. Eight days of sleeplessness with loud music, bright lights, no clothing, cold air coming in; cuts to genitalia, etc.

Also, the UN Convention Against Torture specifies that it does not want to get into a semantic battle over whether things that are demeaning are torture. It treats both the same. Then again, it also requires that member nations, like the US, prosecute torturers, so...
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  -Ex-GOP Congressman Challenges Alberto Gonzales: 'Let's See What You Think of Waterboarding After You kpete  Jun-04-09 03:49 PM   #0 
  - How about cuts to genitalia? We need to stop acting as though waterboarding was the be all and end  No Elephants   Jun-04-09 03:52 PM   #1 
  - Yes, the important issue is that waterboarding was NOT the only torture  Duer 157099   Jun-04-09 04:49 PM   #6 
  - Saw that. Bill Moyers Journal last week was "Torturing Democracy." I hope you catch the podcast.  No Elephants   Jun-06-09 02:34 PM   #17 
     - Yep, saw it. It's online too, here:  Duer 157099   Jun-06-09 04:00 PM   #18 
        - Didn't see that. 2008 may have seen my last donations to political  No Elephants   Jun-06-09 04:16 PM   #19 
           - Couldn't agree more. Add DU to the list  Duer 157099   Jun-06-09 05:04 PM   #20 
              - I did make a contribution to DU, but earlier than the most recent drive.I would put that more in the  No Elephants   Jun-06-09 05:08 PM   #22 
  - I'm afraid that Pee Wee  downindixie   Jun-04-09 07:05 PM   #12 
  - because people wouldn't question that cuts to genitalia was torture as they do with waterboarding  JI7   Jun-06-09 10:12 PM   #23 
  - BOB NEY? Isn't he the genius that was involved with Abramoff?  EFerrari   Jun-04-09 03:52 PM   #2 
  - Genius of the cell block? Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH, Prisoner No. 28882-016)  L. Coyote   Jun-04-09 04:45 PM   #5 
     - What... in the Hell... is that man doing out of prison?  sofa king   Jun-04-09 06:28 PM   #11 
  - This comes from a convicted republican. You can turn your life around  bluesmail   Jun-04-09 03:53 PM   #3 
  - Just like E. Gordon Liddy....Bwahahahaha....n/t  monmouth   Jun-04-09 04:11 PM   #4 
  - The Fraudulent Fraud Squad, The incredible, disappearing American Center for Voting Rights.  L. Coyote   Jun-04-09 04:58 PM   #7 
  - Looks like a great article  Canuckistanian   Jun-04-09 05:21 PM   #8 
     - .  Hassin Bin Sober   Jun-04-09 06:14 PM   #9 
     - Rep. Ney arranged for the lying before his own hearing!  L. Coyote   Jun-04-09 07:15 PM   #13 
        - I like Ney  Canuckistanian   Jun-04-09 07:30 PM   #14 
  - Oh not, this asshole heard from again?  DebbieCDC   Jun-04-09 06:18 PM   #10 
  - WOW! The sky is falling when the Bob Neys of this world turn on the  MasonJar   Jun-04-09 07:34 PM   #15 
  - Admitting what we already know?  L. Coyote   Jun-04-09 10:39 PM   #16 
  - Bob Ney?  Arkana   Jun-06-09 05:06 PM   #21 
 

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