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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:14 AM
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26. Anyone with half a brain could figure out he supported
gay marriage. He was just either too much of a chickenshit or too motivated by his political agenda to come out and say it.

Now, I don't think he has always been for it, but I guess his daughter got to him at some point because he pretty much avoided the topic at all costs.

I'm not approving of his behavior or justifying it... just trying to explain it. As someone who's father is one of the greatest, most giving and compassionate men I have ever known... yet has some views and traits that are completely opposite, I have come to understand how people rationalize the conflicting ideals.

I believe there are methods of raising kids that foster an open mind and methods that teach kids not to question what you are taught. And those who are taught not to question the teaching find it easier to kee their current beliefs rather than turn their ideological worldview upside down, causing them to rethink events in their lives that might have been different had they questioned it earlier.

Humans in general tend to cling to certain core beliefs for whatever reason (my thought is that it is he brain's self-defense mechanism to preserve sanity), and it takes a lot to get past that barrier. Pride and fear of being shamed by their peers add on to that even more.

So I can see how Cheney could take this position while still being a complete asshat on every other position.
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  -Cheney on gay marriage: 'Freedom for everyone' Old Coot  Jun-01-09 07:15 PM   #0 
  - So now he's a union man, and I love the "get a shot at" line  TheCowsCameHome   Jun-01-09 07:20 PM   #1 
  - Let me see if I've got this straight, so to speak.  KamaAina   Jun-01-09 07:22 PM   #2 
  - Cheney is on board,  AlbertCat   Jun-01-09 07:57 PM   #8 
     - Actually,..  rayofreason   Jun-01-09 09:02 PM   #12 
     - I don't believe him in 2004 either.  AlbertCat   Jun-01-09 09:37 PM   #17 
     - It's a federal issue when the states looks like they want equality. Hence DOMA.  No Elephants   Jun-02-09 01:25 PM   #43 
  - Cheney is trying to drive up the price of his book deal, thus he is all over the media nt  msongs   Jun-01-09 07:29 PM   #3 
  - Oh, there's much more to it than that.  sofa king   Jun-01-09 09:41 PM   #19 
  - Except the people in Gitmo, of course. nt  bemildred   Jun-01-09 07:32 PM   #4 
  - It kinda sucks when Cheney is more progressive on this issue than Obama  MajorChode   Jun-01-09 07:39 PM   #5 
  - It kinda sucks when people believe what the self-serving Cheney says.  AlbertCat   Jun-01-09 07:59 PM   #9 
  - How exactly is that self serving?  MajorChode   Jun-01-09 09:56 PM   #20 
  - Full-serving? Except in Oregon and Jersey. n/t  riverdeep   Jun-02-09 09:44 AM   #34 
     - I was thinking more like self-defeating  MajorChode   Jun-02-09 11:53 AM   #40 
  - Anyone with half a brain could figure out he supported  merwin   Jun-02-09 12:14 AM   #26 
     - The sad part is, the issue has to affect him personally before he goes against his core beliefs  MajorChode   Jun-02-09 12:01 PM   #41 
  - Um ... yeah ... remind me again how he moved the country forward on this issue from 2001 to 2009  struggle4progress   Jun-01-09 09:40 PM   #18 
     - As opposed to the way the current administration is moving it forward?  MajorChode   Jun-01-09 09:57 PM   #21 
        - Sure. Let's see your comparison of Cheney's last eight years against Obama's last four months  struggle4progress   Jun-01-09 10:10 PM   #22 
        - Do you think it's going to be different 8 years from now?  MajorChode   Jun-02-09 08:40 AM   #29 
           - not wanting to play rhetorical bullshit games. kthxbai!  struggle4progress   Jun-02-09 08:57 AM   #32 
              - Coulda fooled me!  MajorChode   Jun-02-09 09:56 AM   #36 
                 - You claim Cheney more progressive than Obama. I asked for documentation. You gave none  struggle4progress   Jun-02-09 10:25 AM   #38 
                    - What part of "on this issue" did you not understand?  MajorChode   Jun-02-09 10:47 AM   #39 
        - Obama isn't going around promoting "traditional marriage" as Bush did  JI7   Jun-01-09 10:24 PM   #24 
           - We are talking about Cheney, not Bush  merwin   Jun-02-09 12:17 AM   #27 
  - FREEDOM! *see fine print for details, excludes most states and territories, military, religion, etc  tomm2thumbs   Jun-01-09 07:39 PM   #6 
  - What a sickening piece of shit  Doctor_J   Jun-01-09 07:41 PM   #7 
  - Exactly. n/t  Jefferson23   Jun-01-09 08:29 PM   #10 
  - Uh, you are insulting him because he is coming out in favor  merwin   Jun-02-09 12:29 AM   #28 
     - Well, there you have it  Doctor_J   Jun-02-09 09:35 AM   #33 
  - And he and I agree that pedophilia is abhorrent,  ejbr   Jun-01-09 08:51 PM   #11 
  - For all of you claiming Cheney is better than  liquid diamond   Jun-01-09 09:05 PM   #13 
  - Well, not to nitpick...  Indydem   Jun-01-09 09:07 PM   #14 
  - I'll tell you what every reasonable person has told those that  liquid diamond   Jun-01-09 09:36 PM   #16 
  - nothing just like Ted Olson didn't do anything , they allowed the administration to  JI7   Jun-01-09 10:21 PM   #23 
  - Cheney never promised to be a fierce advocate nt  t0dd   Jun-01-09 11:21 PM   #25 
  - Well, only for daughter-Mary 'cause she's been so responsible for so long. n/t  UTUSN   Jun-01-09 09:35 PM   #15 
  - He's full of it, as always. "Union" and "arrangement" are code words for civil union and con-  No Elephants   Jun-02-09 08:46 AM   #30 
  - amusing, because one of the reasons i remember  Blue_Tires   Jun-02-09 08:50 AM   #31 
  - And what if he didn't have a gay daughter?  riverdeep   Jun-02-09 09:50 AM   #35 
  - He has never said gays had a RIGHT to MARRY, including yesterday. Never.  No Elephants   Jun-02-09 09:58 AM   #37 
  - I don't believe this garbage for a second...  oedura   Jun-02-09 12:19 PM   #42 
  - For some reason...  Mojo_electro   Jun-02-09 05:52 PM   #44 

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