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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 01:14 AM
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29. Given the enormous rightwing effort to seize control of the courts, since the time of Reagan,
an effort which paid off handsomely in Bush v Gore, I do not know why anyone would be rushing towards SCOTUS on this issue, since the chance of a favorable ruling seems slim -- and an unfavorable ruling would establish an unfortunate high-level precedent

There's another problem: when people run to the courts on issues like this, it tends to undercut the momentum for grassroots organizing

So this is potentially (in my eyes) a move that could make it harder for Marriage Equality people to organize and is likely to result in an unfavorable precedent

I hope I'm wrong

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  - should be appealed as religion being imposed on people, which is what it is nt  msongs   May-26-09 07:14 PM   #1 
  - ooh! I liked that shortly succinct argument - that's very true. I'm a Christian and I never  Divine Discontent   May-26-09 07:32 PM   #4 
  - Truly, yes --- why not sue the Mormon Church on this . . . ???  defendandprotect   May-26-09 09:29 PM   #15 
  - Rabbis are prevented from marrying gays by Christians dictating what Jews ought to believe  IndianaGreen   May-26-09 10:30 PM   #23 
  - If that is the case, why not murder, it is mentioned in the Ten Commandments  happyslug   May-27-09 12:20 AM   #28 
     - Murder was unlawful before the 10 Commandments. There is a victim in murder, as there is  No Elephants   May-27-09 06:56 AM   #33 
        - As I pointed out, the extended family is still part of your support group  happyslug   May-27-09 08:22 AM   #39 
  - TED OLSON?????  musette_sf   May-26-09 07:20 PM   #2 
  - I never thought I'd see those two working together  maddezmom   May-26-09 07:32 PM   #3 
  - Ted's new wife is a Dem  musette_sf   May-26-09 07:35 PM   #5 
     - Ted Olsen lives in NAPA???  Gormy Cuss   May-26-09 09:23 PM   #9 
     - do the Wiki  musette_sf   May-26-09 09:26 PM   #12 
     - Olsen was a very odd duck . . .  defendandprotect   May-26-09 09:26 PM   #13 
        - "This is a federal question," Olson said. --  defendandprotect   May-26-09 11:41 PM   #26 
  - Ted Olson & David Boies to Announce Federal Court Challenge to Prop. 8  jefferson_dem   May-26-09 09:19 PM   #6 
  - WOW. Who would ever think those two would do anything together  Thrill   May-26-09 09:19 PM   #7 
  - Politics makes strange bedfellows, indeed..........  Tangerine LaBamba   May-26-09 09:22 PM   #8 
     - i suspect he has seen that same Light  musette_sf   May-26-09 09:28 PM   #14 
        - To quote LBJ,  Tangerine LaBamba   May-26-09 09:36 PM   #18 
        - Atwater saw nothing but a belated desire to save his own soul, in the event that he had one. The  No Elephants   May-27-09 06:48 AM   #32 
  - Strange bedfellows, indeed!  gauguin57   May-26-09 10:09 PM   #22 
  - Good move . . . but Ted Olson . .. ????!!!!  defendandprotect   May-26-09 09:25 PM   #10 
  - What???  jobycom   May-26-09 09:25 PM   #11 
  - i know... same reaction here...  musette_sf   May-26-09 09:30 PM   #16 
  - I was just wondering the same thing . . .  defendandprotect   May-26-09 11:51 PM   #27 
  - From a PR angle,  Tangerine LaBamba   May-26-09 09:38 PM   #19 
     - I.... um... ummm. I still can't grasp it.  jobycom   May-26-09 09:46 PM   #20 
        - First, he's a lawyer,  Tangerine LaBamba   May-26-09 09:49 PM   #21 
  - Knuckle Draggin Olsen?????????????  xultar   May-26-09 09:33 PM   #17 
  - I assume that Olson is just doing this as a lawyer would for a client  IndianaGreen   May-26-09 10:36 PM   #24 
  - Say what?  Ztarbod   May-26-09 11:34 PM   #25 
  - If you don't see how equal protection applies to marriage for gay people,  No Elephants   May-27-09 07:03 AM   #34 
  - Given the enormous rightwing effort to seize control of the courts, since the time of Reagan,  struggle4progress   May-27-09 01:14 AM   #29 
  - Another possibility re Olson (warning: tinfoil-hat alert)  Jim Lane   May-27-09 02:21 AM   #30 
  - I don't trust that bastard either. n/t  EFerrari   May-27-09 03:11 AM   #31 
  - He's very experienced in front of SCOTUS  Dappleganger   May-27-09 07:14 AM   #35 
  - I had a similar thought, based on the timing. I'd fight the states hard. Before I hit the  No Elephants   May-27-09 07:22 AM   #36 
  - This is very interesting....  LeftHander   May-27-09 08:12 AM   #37 
  - I disagree about the prospects in federal court  Jim Lane   May-27-09 10:15 AM   #42 
  - It's like that time GI Joe and Cobra teamed up  sudopod   May-27-09 08:14 AM   #38 
  - CUE THE VONAGE THEME!  rocktivity   May-27-09 09:23 AM   #40 
  - I think it can be argued based simply on  4_TN_TITANS   May-27-09 09:40 AM   #41 
  - That'd be a .. formidable pairing for this case.. (nt)  Posteritatis   May-27-09 01:22 PM   #43 
  - Crap.  Ms. Toad   May-27-09 02:43 PM   #44 
 

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