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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 05:17 PM
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61. I imagine to many people...
I imagine to many people, the death of a small town is little more than an asterisk when it comes to those all-important imaginary red and blue lines on maps and who should be allowed to live on which side of the imaginary...
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  -Postville decimated by immigration raid one year ago Robbien  May-10-09 11:27 AM   #0 
  - But, but, Lou Dobbs wet his pants in delight after the ICE raid.  IndianaGreen   May-10-09 11:31 AM   #1 
  - Many of the people snatched up in the raid are sitting in private prisons  Robbien   May-10-09 11:36 AM   #3 
  - raids lead to decline in catholic church attendance. catholic church complains. nt  msongs   May-10-09 11:35 AM   #2 
  - When I read of the Postville plant being purchased by the current owners way back when  Wapsie B   May-10-09 11:36 AM   #4 
  - me too  Enrique   May-10-09 11:40 AM   #6 
  - a question for the reporters  Enrique   May-10-09 11:38 AM   #5 
  - It is all a matter of degree  Robbien   May-10-09 11:47 AM   #7 
  - That's what happens when you are not a citizen....  WriteDown   May-10-09 02:18 PM   #11 
     - also when you are a minority you are kept in poor neighborhoods  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:06 AM   #26 
        - We're not talking about minorities in general here...  WriteDown   May-11-09 08:02 AM   #34 
  - I believe the HR person responsible  Mnpaul   May-11-09 02:49 AM   #30 
  - I'm a reporter in Iowa  CornField   May-11-09 04:14 PM   #48 
  - God forbid...  sendero   May-10-09 12:09 PM   #8 
  - After Kosher plant raid, Legal Somalis replaced Latinos  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:11 AM   #27 
     - Not entirely true -- other groups came before the Somali men  CornField   May-11-09 04:16 PM   #49 
        - Well look like US citizens got their chance to get those jobs.  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 07:50 PM   #68 
  - But they got those dang brown people...  Iggo   May-10-09 12:35 PM   #9 
  - Lame argument...  WriteDown   May-10-09 02:19 PM   #12 
  - Yeah, whatever....  Iggo   May-10-09 07:34 PM   #21 
  - Yeah, right. The next time ICE rounds up a bunch of white people  EFerrari   May-10-09 07:43 PM   #22 
     - Considering that statistically...  WriteDown   May-10-09 09:43 PM   #23 
     - That means that Germans are more accepted because they are white?  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:14 AM   #28 
     - That means that Germans adhere more to occupancy  WriteDown   May-11-09 08:01 AM   #33 
        - Please don't tell me that because they are Caucasians they can get better jobs  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 09:40 AM   #36 
        - Without socials?  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:03 AM   #38 
           - So German illegals can't get better jobs without socials?  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 10:09 AM   #39 
              - Doubtful...  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:12 AM   #41 
                 - Lower IQ Americans vs. Illegal Immigrants (Can't believe someone wrote this)  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 10:32 AM   #42 
                    - Cringe...  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:51 AM   #45 
        - Sorry, that's simply wrongheaded. Immigrants have bunked together  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:01 PM   #52 
           - Probably due to their own countries competent immigration  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:04 PM   #54 
              - Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles!  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:09 PM   #56 
                 - Its an amazing place....  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:14 PM   # 
                    - German has been spoken in Germany for hundreds of years longer  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:21 PM   #64 
                       - Sounds like you've never been there...  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:52 PM   #71 
     - How old are you? When I was growing up in an Irish Catholic neighborhood  EFerrari   May-11-09 04:59 PM   #51 
        - Late 30's....  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:02 PM   #53 
           - No, it's not wrong, it's survival. Unless you mean poverty is wrong  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:06 PM   #55 
              - So we should ignore pesky things like occupancy laws....  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:10 PM   #57 
                 - Your priorities are upside down. And I say that as a landlord  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:14 PM   #59 
                    - Yeah, priorities like fire safety, health concerns, etc...  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:16 PM   #60 
                       - Unless you put people first, fire safety and health safety don't mean anything.  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:18 PM   #62 
                          - Oookay...  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:20 PM   #63 
                             - And I'm very familiar with anything on the books being used to disappear poor people  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:24 PM   #65 
                                - Yeah, because nothing bad ever happened from overcrowding  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:50 PM   #70 
     - What predominately "white" country  JonQ   May-13-09 12:14 AM   #76 
  - What a crock...  MellowDem   May-11-09 11:17 AM   #46 
  - Agriprocessors hurt the kosher consumer terribly.  Betsy Ross   May-10-09 01:13 PM   #10 
  - Just horrible  proud2BlibKansan   May-10-09 02:32 PM   #13 
  - they can't find any Americans to work there?  Blue_Tires   May-10-09 02:35 PM   #14 
  - Great question, Blue_Tires. The meat-packing industry used to have some of the highest-paid  bertman   May-10-09 04:57 PM   #19 
  - See Post #27 no illegals there  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:18 AM   #29 
  - Demanding, dangerous work ...  SomeGuyInEagan   May-11-09 10:11 AM   #40 
  - DAmned Americans and their need for a decent wage! nt  Critters2   May-11-09 11:20 PM   #72 
  - This is the sort of thing that the red necks LOVE to read....  Hulk   May-10-09 03:12 PM   #15 
  - The same thing could be said of a drug town getting busted. Bust Garberville and see what happens.  imdjh   May-11-09 10:42 AM   #43 
  - Couldn't that same logic be applied to arresting any criminal?  JonQ   May-13-09 12:17 AM   #77 
  - they hired latinos that would work in conditions no one else would  madrchsod   May-10-09 04:43 PM   #16 
  - a du member that posted about the cedar rapids fair ground...  madrchsod   May-10-09 04:46 PM   #17 
  - ?  WriteDown   May-10-09 04:52 PM   #18 
  - the point is...someone here at du noticed something...  madrchsod   May-10-09 05:36 PM   #20 
     - A lot of fairgrounds have razor wire around them....  WriteDown   May-10-09 09:45 PM   #24 
     - I remember that. It was less than two weeks. n/t  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:11 PM   #58 
  - Could not have happened  CornField   May-11-09 04:25 PM   #50 
  - Wine country, California, would be decimated also if  roody   May-10-09 11:43 PM   #25 
  - because Americans don't want those jobs? (n/t)  ima_sinnic   May-11-09 04:36 AM   #31 
  - Mexican immigrants are Americans.  roody   May-11-09 08:40 AM   #35 
  - Another translation - "would be 'decimated' if labor laws were enforced"  imdjh   May-11-09 10:49 AM   #44 
     - Union leader says Agriprocessors raid shows need for immigration reform  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 07:51 PM   #69 
  - "Agriprocessors charged with over 9,000 child labor law violations"  Romulox   May-11-09 06:42 AM   #32 
  - Perhaps there is a misunderstanding?  Robbien   May-11-09 09:52 AM   #37 
     - Part of what was "disrupted" in Postville was rampant child labor violations.  Romulox   May-11-09 02:03 PM   #47 
     - Your silence speaks volumes. No misunderstanding, I'm sure. nt  Romulox   May-12-09 11:49 AM   #73 
  - I imagine to many people...  LanternWaste   May-11-09 05:17 PM   #61 
  - more fucking the workers. when labor's tight, bring in foreign workers to hold down wages.  Hannah Bell   May-11-09 05:24 PM   #66 
  - That's what happens  MellowDem   May-11-09 05:37 PM   #67 
     - 1865 Headline: Union Soldiers Disrupt Southern Agricultural Town! nt  Romulox   May-12-09 11:50 AM   #74 
        - Exactly nt  MellowDem   May-12-09 12:04 PM   #75 

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