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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 12:11 AM
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27. After Kosher plant raid, Legal Somalis replaced Latinos
Saturday August 02, 2008, 1:28 AM
POSTVILLE, Iowa -- Scores of Somali immigrants are taking jobs at the largest U.S. kosher meatpacking plant, replacing Hispanic workers arrested in a huge immigration raid and forcing a remote Iowa town to make another cultural shift.

Before the May 12 raid at Agriprocessors, hundreds of Mexican and Guatemalan immigrants maintained a vibrant community in Postville, a largely white community of 2,200 people in northeast Iowa.

Now the stoops and haunts once occupied by Hispanics are being filled by about 150 Somali men.

Aydurus Farah, a 21-year-old who immigrated from Somalia in 2004, set out for work in meatpacking plants to make money for his family back home in Somalia.

He planned to begin work at Agriprocessors last week, drawn from Minneapolis to Postville by the promised wages.

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  -Postville decimated by immigration raid one year ago Robbien  May-10-09 11:27 AM   #0 
  - But, but, Lou Dobbs wet his pants in delight after the ICE raid.  IndianaGreen   May-10-09 11:31 AM   #1 
  - Many of the people snatched up in the raid are sitting in private prisons  Robbien   May-10-09 11:36 AM   #3 
  - raids lead to decline in catholic church attendance. catholic church complains. nt  msongs   May-10-09 11:35 AM   #2 
  - When I read of the Postville plant being purchased by the current owners way back when  Wapsie B   May-10-09 11:36 AM   #4 
  - me too  Enrique   May-10-09 11:40 AM   #6 
  - a question for the reporters  Enrique   May-10-09 11:38 AM   #5 
  - It is all a matter of degree  Robbien   May-10-09 11:47 AM   #7 
  - That's what happens when you are not a citizen....  WriteDown   May-10-09 02:18 PM   #11 
     - also when you are a minority you are kept in poor neighborhoods  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:06 AM   #26 
        - We're not talking about minorities in general here...  WriteDown   May-11-09 08:02 AM   #34 
  - I believe the HR person responsible  Mnpaul   May-11-09 02:49 AM   #30 
  - I'm a reporter in Iowa  CornField   May-11-09 04:14 PM   #48 
  - God forbid...  sendero   May-10-09 12:09 PM   #8 
  - After Kosher plant raid, Legal Somalis replaced Latinos  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:11 AM   #27 
     - Not entirely true -- other groups came before the Somali men  CornField   May-11-09 04:16 PM   #49 
        - Well look like US citizens got their chance to get those jobs.  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 07:50 PM   #68 
  - But they got those dang brown people...  Iggo   May-10-09 12:35 PM   #9 
  - Lame argument...  WriteDown   May-10-09 02:19 PM   #12 
  - Yeah, whatever....  Iggo   May-10-09 07:34 PM   #21 
  - Yeah, right. The next time ICE rounds up a bunch of white people  EFerrari   May-10-09 07:43 PM   #22 
     - Considering that statistically...  WriteDown   May-10-09 09:43 PM   #23 
     - That means that Germans are more accepted because they are white?  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:14 AM   #28 
     - That means that Germans adhere more to occupancy  WriteDown   May-11-09 08:01 AM   #33 
        - Please don't tell me that because they are Caucasians they can get better jobs  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 09:40 AM   #36 
        - Without socials?  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:03 AM   #38 
           - So German illegals can't get better jobs without socials?  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 10:09 AM   #39 
              - Doubtful...  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:12 AM   #41 
                 - Lower IQ Americans vs. Illegal Immigrants (Can't believe someone wrote this)  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 10:32 AM   #42 
                    - Cringe...  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:51 AM   #45 
        - Sorry, that's simply wrongheaded. Immigrants have bunked together  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:01 PM   #52 
           - Probably due to their own countries competent immigration  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:04 PM   #54 
              - Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles!  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:09 PM   #56 
                 - Its an amazing place....  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:14 PM   # 
                    - German has been spoken in Germany for hundreds of years longer  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:21 PM   #64 
                       - Sounds like you've never been there...  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:52 PM   #71 
     - How old are you? When I was growing up in an Irish Catholic neighborhood  EFerrari   May-11-09 04:59 PM   #51 
        - Late 30's....  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:02 PM   #53 
           - No, it's not wrong, it's survival. Unless you mean poverty is wrong  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:06 PM   #55 
              - So we should ignore pesky things like occupancy laws....  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:10 PM   #57 
                 - Your priorities are upside down. And I say that as a landlord  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:14 PM   #59 
                    - Yeah, priorities like fire safety, health concerns, etc...  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:16 PM   #60 
                       - Unless you put people first, fire safety and health safety don't mean anything.  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:18 PM   #62 
                          - Oookay...  WriteDown   May-11-09 05:20 PM   #63 
                             - And I'm very familiar with anything on the books being used to disappear poor people  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:24 PM   #65 
                                - Yeah, because nothing bad ever happened from overcrowding  WriteDown   May-11-09 10:50 PM   #70 
     - What predominately "white" country  JonQ   May-13-09 12:14 AM   #76 
  - What a crock...  MellowDem   May-11-09 11:17 AM   #46 
  - Agriprocessors hurt the kosher consumer terribly.  Betsy Ross   May-10-09 01:13 PM   #10 
  - Just horrible  proud2BlibKansan   May-10-09 02:32 PM   #13 
  - they can't find any Americans to work there?  Blue_Tires   May-10-09 02:35 PM   #14 
  - Great question, Blue_Tires. The meat-packing industry used to have some of the highest-paid  bertman   May-10-09 04:57 PM   #19 
  - See Post #27 no illegals there  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 12:18 AM   #29 
  - Demanding, dangerous work ...  SomeGuyInEagan   May-11-09 10:11 AM   #40 
  - DAmned Americans and their need for a decent wage! nt  Critters2   May-11-09 11:20 PM   #72 
  - This is the sort of thing that the red necks LOVE to read....  Hulk   May-10-09 03:12 PM   #15 
  - The same thing could be said of a drug town getting busted. Bust Garberville and see what happens.  imdjh   May-11-09 10:42 AM   #43 
  - Couldn't that same logic be applied to arresting any criminal?  JonQ   May-13-09 12:17 AM   #77 
  - they hired latinos that would work in conditions no one else would  madrchsod   May-10-09 04:43 PM   #16 
  - a du member that posted about the cedar rapids fair ground...  madrchsod   May-10-09 04:46 PM   #17 
  - ?  WriteDown   May-10-09 04:52 PM   #18 
  - the point is...someone here at du noticed something...  madrchsod   May-10-09 05:36 PM   #20 
     - A lot of fairgrounds have razor wire around them....  WriteDown   May-10-09 09:45 PM   #24 
     - I remember that. It was less than two weeks. n/t  EFerrari   May-11-09 05:11 PM   #58 
  - Could not have happened  CornField   May-11-09 04:25 PM   #50 
  - Wine country, California, would be decimated also if  roody   May-10-09 11:43 PM   #25 
  - because Americans don't want those jobs? (n/t)  ima_sinnic   May-11-09 04:36 AM   #31 
  - Mexican immigrants are Americans.  roody   May-11-09 08:40 AM   #35 
  - Another translation - "would be 'decimated' if labor laws were enforced"  imdjh   May-11-09 10:49 AM   #44 
     - Union leader says Agriprocessors raid shows need for immigration reform  AlphaCentauri   May-11-09 07:51 PM   #69 
  - "Agriprocessors charged with over 9,000 child labor law violations"  Romulox   May-11-09 06:42 AM   #32 
  - Perhaps there is a misunderstanding?  Robbien   May-11-09 09:52 AM   #37 
     - Part of what was "disrupted" in Postville was rampant child labor violations.  Romulox   May-11-09 02:03 PM   #47 
     - Your silence speaks volumes. No misunderstanding, I'm sure. nt  Romulox   May-12-09 11:49 AM   #73 
  - I imagine to many people...  LanternWaste   May-11-09 05:17 PM   #61 
  - more fucking the workers. when labor's tight, bring in foreign workers to hold down wages.  Hannah Bell   May-11-09 05:24 PM   #66 
  - That's what happens  MellowDem   May-11-09 05:37 PM   #67 
     - 1865 Headline: Union Soldiers Disrupt Southern Agricultural Town! nt  Romulox   May-12-09 11:50 AM   #74 
        - Exactly nt  MellowDem   May-12-09 12:04 PM   #75 
 

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