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Sat May-09-09 12:52 AM
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| 17. What Do They Mean By "Briefed On" |
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Other reports say this was based on "recollections" of what, when and who was briefed. At best this is a he said/she said war of words. CIA documents have been destroyed that could provide the clarity. Frankly, I don't trust the CYA "recollections" one bit.
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| -Hoekstra’s Office: He’s Seen Documents That Prove Pelosi Was Briefed On Waterboarding |
kpete |
May-08-09 09:15 PM |
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She's already admitted it. So what? |
Doctor_J |
May-08-09 09:18 PM |
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She did? Last I heard, she stated categorically that she was |
masuki bance |
May-08-09 09:27 PM |
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She did? When? |
emilyg |
May-08-09 11:50 PM |
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I'll gladly trade Pelosi for Yoo, Bybee and Bradbury (nt) |
JudyInTheHeartland |
May-09-09 06:15 PM |
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Also she wasn't allowed to talk about anything classified |
katmondoo |
May-08-09 09:32 PM |
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Under the Constitution she would have complete immunity for anything said during a House debate |
struggle4progress |
May-09-09 05:18 AM |
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Except acts of treason |
Inuca |
May-09-09 11:48 AM |
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That is not correct. |
bemildred |
May-09-09 02:25 PM |
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I am not a lawyer, you may be right, I do nor know |
Inuca |
May-09-09 03:29 PM |
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Treason is a narrowly and Constitutionally defined crime. |
bemildred |
May-09-09 03:48 PM |
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So torture is bad now? Or, wait - they did torture? |
Stellabella |
May-08-09 09:48 PM |
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Is what the "repukes" can pin on Pelosi the issue, though? Isn't the issue whether she did her job? |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 11:27 AM |
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I think they first have to decide if they tortured, if it was bad, or |
Stellabella |
May-09-09 12:45 PM |
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If we lose everybody that was complicit, |
Downwinder |
May-08-09 09:53 PM |
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Depends upon your definition of complicit--and complicit in what. Did they all shirk their duty of |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 11:30 AM |
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I've seen documents that prove Hoekstra does drugs and has sex with bin Laden. |
LiberalFighter |
May-08-09 10:01 PM |
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A Google search will probably turn up a picture. n/t |
Downwinder |
May-08-09 10:05 PM |
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Who gives a shit about fucking DOCUMENTS? How about accountability, people? WHO TORTURED? |
truthisfreedom |
May-08-09 10:04 PM |
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What exactly is his point? |
bluestateguy |
May-08-09 10:09 PM |
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I think he decided his "it's not torture" line wasn't working, so he's going with "Nancy is a liar" |
struggle4progress |
May-09-09 05:24 AM |
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Must be an overwhelming urge to confess his own crime. Hoekstra was briefed at the same time. |
leveymg |
May-09-09 07:51 AM |
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No. It doesn't make it ok. It just leaves everyone's base right where it is. If I were a |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 11:38 AM |
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She knew and so did everyone else, so what? |
harun |
May-08-09 10:10 PM |
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You have no problem with Congress eenabling violations of the Constitution. treaties and statutes? |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 11:46 AM |
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What does her being briefed on something have to do with enabling it? |
harun |
May-09-09 12:20 PM |
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If they don't like Pelosi, I know they won't like Cindy. |
Downwinder |
May-08-09 10:37 PM |
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This is not only about Republicans v. Democrats. It's about the right of the American people to |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 11:51 AM |
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Aren't those documents supposed to be classified?? |
shraby |
May-08-09 10:37 PM |
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I think Pelosi was part of a group of 8 democrats that were called to a top secret meeting. |
Wizard777 |
May-08-09 10:52 PM |
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This was about illegal wiretaps |
Inuca |
May-09-09 11:51 AM |
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Empty threat, though. Members of Congress have Congressional Immunity. |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 11:57 AM |
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Why has HE seen them? |
aquart |
May-08-09 10:54 PM |
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The GOP Was In Charge--They Knew Everything |
Demeter |
May-09-09 04:23 AM |
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pelosi wasn't in CHARGE of anything. |
xchrom |
May-08-09 11:07 PM |
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Sure she was. She was in charge of upholding, preserving and defending the laws of the |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 12:00 PM |
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What Do They Mean By "Briefed On" |
DallasNE |
May-09-09 12:52 AM |
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Did you know we were torturing Did you know that Bushco were shredding |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 12:06 PM |
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The more Hoekstra engages this kind of argument, the more |
JDPriestly |
May-09-09 02:41 AM |
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No. The only thing that will get us a special prosecutor is an outcry from voters. |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 12:07 PM |
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chips - fall - where they may |
tomm2thumbs |
May-09-09 03:10 AM |
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The big brave man waited until she was out of the country to make his accusations |
struggle4progress |
May-09-09 05:13 AM |
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No biggie. That's why God made cell phones. |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 12:09 PM |
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Hoekstra was the House Intel Committee Chairman... |
PassingFair |
May-09-09 10:09 AM |
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Curiously, where are the memos that prove that Pelosi was told these techniques "had been used" |
Honeycombe8 |
May-09-09 11:06 AM |
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No matter how anyone tries to spin, she had PLENTY of notice that |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 12:14 PM |
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As a person on that committee, she was unable to speak about the |
Honeycombe8 |
May-09-09 08:55 PM |
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Who cares? Its not like she had the authority to stop them anyways. |
Jennicut |
May-09-09 12:02 PM |
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She had the authority to try. As well as the duty to try. The duty to try is the fact that she |
No Elephants |
May-09-09 12:23 PM |
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Back in 2002 how do you think the media would have portrayed her? |
Jennicut |
May-09-09 03:32 PM |
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