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Wed Feb-25-04 04:48 PM
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the problem with the lottery was that it allowed the rich and influential largely to avoid service. They could either exercise connections and get into the Guard or they could get university deferments, etc. A period of universal conscription would be different. You could have everybody, men and women, serve the country in some capacity for two years after they turn 18. I think that would make the politicians a lot less likely to send our troops into war - because they'd know who'd be doing the dying.
But during her recent sojourn there she praised what the US had accomplished in Afghanistan.
Of course. Because unlike Iraq, Afghanistan was a just war. The US needs vastly to step up efforts there, however, and is being impeded by the lack of available manpower. That needs to be changed.
The arms industry, meanwhile, has greased the wheels. It filled the Democratic Party coffers to the tune of nearly $2 million in the 1998 election cycle."
You're wrong. In 1998 they gave $3,240,654 to Democrats, according to the CRP. That same year they gave $6,505,563 to Republicans. Guess whose side their bread is buttered on? Every year for the past ten years, the Defense industry has given twice as much money to Republicans as Democrats.
She is one of the people who need to be voted out of office, if anyone expects to see any type of policy change.
Brilliant. And replaced with whom? You really think Senator Guiliani or Senator King or Senator Lazio would be less friendly to Lockheed Martin? Hillary Clinton is a committed liberal who runs one of the tightest ships of any member of Congress.
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| -(Senator) Clinton questions future of volunteer army |
rmpalmer |
Feb-25-04 04:07 PM |
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so, wait? |
DerBeppo |
Feb-25-04 04:12 PM |
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Not Going to Happen |
Mozam |
Feb-25-04 06:46 PM |
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overseas actions??? |
trumad |
Feb-25-04 04:13 PM |
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One tends to forget |
DennisReveni |
Feb-25-04 04:29 PM |
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Thank you for that |
SaddenedDem |
Feb-25-04 04:35 PM |
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"Saint Hillary" my ass. I totally agree with you on this. |
Zhade |
Feb-25-04 06:50 PM |
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I have NEVER seen a post wherein Hillary was referred to |
PassingFair |
Feb-25-04 11:35 PM |
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Absolutely not |
mobuto |
Feb-25-04 04:48 PM |
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Are you insane? |
DennisReveni |
Feb-25-04 05:02 PM |
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I'm not saying Mother Jones "lied" but their numbers are wrong |
mobuto |
Feb-25-04 05:19 PM |
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Gotcha. |
DennisReveni |
Feb-25-04 05:36 PM |
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Huh? |
mobuto |
Feb-25-04 10:13 PM |
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Another sorry rabid Hillary hater? |
1971 |
Feb-25-04 05:25 PM |
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I did not vote for her to have her comprimise with the MIC/BFEE |
Sterling |
Feb-25-04 09:48 PM |
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Thank you for that... |
1971 |
Feb-25-04 05:13 PM |
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Well said 1971, that was my point in post #21 N/T |
Rebellious Republican |
Feb-25-04 05:24 PM |
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the problem with conscription is ... |
Krakowiak |
Feb-25-04 06:28 PM |
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There were two problems with the draft |
mobuto |
Feb-25-04 10:17 PM |
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3. the fact that citizens in a democracy (and their labor) do not belong |
bezdomny |
Feb-26-04 01:44 AM |
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Government OF the people, by the people, for the people |
mobuto |
Feb-26-04 07:22 AM |
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I'm not sure how universal serfdom makes serfdom a civic experiment. |
bezdomny |
Feb-26-04 11:48 PM |
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Then did you oppose the draft |
mobuto |
Feb-27-04 07:47 AM |
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If I had been alive, I would have. |
bezdomny |
Feb-27-04 08:01 PM |
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Please explain to me how Afghanistan was a "just war". |
Zhade |
Feb-25-04 06:57 PM |
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We disagree |
mobuto |
Feb-25-04 10:19 PM |
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I was banned for posting that |
Sterling |
Feb-25-04 09:44 PM |
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The New York Democrat did not call for a revival of conscription |
damnyankee2601 |
Feb-25-04 04:33 PM |
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YET. |
SaddenedDem |
Feb-25-04 04:38 PM |
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Umm... hero? |
damnyankee2601 |
Feb-25-04 04:50 PM |
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I am fairly certain |
tkmorris |
Feb-25-04 04:57 PM |
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Let it Stay Volunteer. What if They Gave a War And Nobody Came? |
AndyTiedye |
Feb-25-04 04:57 PM |
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What if the gave a war... |
damnyankee2601 |
Feb-25-04 05:09 PM |
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I disagree vehemently. It comes down to one word. |
Big_Mike |
Feb-25-04 05:00 PM |
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I generally would agree with your points. |
damnyankee2601 |
Feb-25-04 05:07 PM |
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BINGO |
Mozam |
Feb-25-04 06:50 PM |
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even less |
Kellanved |
Feb-26-04 04:41 AM |
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Here's a thought, maybe Hil is being a sly fox, remember the |
Rebellious Republican |
Feb-25-04 04:46 PM |
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No |
DennisReveni |
Feb-25-04 05:04 PM |
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Got a link, lots boards, lots of threads here, I will be happy to |
Rebellious Republican |
Feb-25-04 05:17 PM |
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Read the thread. |
Sterling |
Feb-25-04 09:55 PM |
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If you and he are talking about the Hill and Bill bashing post he.. |
Rebellious Republican |
Feb-25-04 10:15 PM |
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Greenspan's being "sly" as well... |
1971 |
Feb-25-04 05:35 PM |
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Very astute observations, I agree! |
Rebellious Republican |
Feb-25-04 05:57 PM |
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No hes not. He is serving you for dinner. |
Sterling |
Feb-25-04 09:58 PM |
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If not "volunteer" then what?? |
plumbnsquare |
Feb-25-04 04:49 PM |
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I don't know |
mobuto |
Feb-25-04 05:03 PM |
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Lets start by demanding each member of Congress send one |
Mari333 |
Feb-25-04 04:55 PM |
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And make it the Marines. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Feb-25-04 07:28 PM |
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infantry O five hundred hours |
metisnation |
Feb-25-04 10:08 PM |
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Marines got desk jobs too |
Columbia |
Feb-26-04 02:08 AM |
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How about a limited draft |
midnight armadillo |
Feb-25-04 05:21 PM |
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actually |
koopie57 |
Feb-25-04 06:37 PM |
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How exactly does it hide anything? |
Nlighten1 |
Feb-25-04 06:36 PM |
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Just what we need...a thug lite call for a draft |
turnhardleft |
Feb-25-04 06:48 PM |
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The Ruling Class has decided -- you can BET there'll be a draft! |
scarletwoman |
Feb-25-04 07:05 PM |
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You are right. |
saigon68 |
Feb-25-04 09:43 PM |
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hmm |
Legate |
Feb-25-04 10:03 PM |
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I think Hillary is right! |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-25-04 10:38 PM |
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She has a point |
quaker bill |
Feb-26-04 04:54 AM |
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Brookings Institute article |
legin |
Feb-25-04 10:58 PM |
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Which |
CHIMO |
Feb-25-04 11:38 PM |
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Her Iraq position makes me sick. But she's partly correct. |
Voltaire99 |
Feb-26-04 04:27 AM |
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Don't forget Hillary's trip to Israel! |
IndianaGreen |
Feb-27-04 07:54 AM |
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