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Fri Apr-24-09 01:03 PM
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| 5. Good economy, bad economy - most repubs oppose immigration reform. |
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They filibustered it in the Senate in 2007. President Obama must really care about this deeply to give the repubs a potential issue for 2010. Or maybe he has a political strategy of giving the repubs enough rope to hang themselves. They won the "battle" over immigration reform in 2007, but may have made themselves look so narrow-minded that they lost the "war" in 2008.
The three repubs quoted in the article, Sessions, Martinez and King, all can't seem to wait to yell "amnesty bill", since that's how they think they won the "battle" last time. Of the Democrats quoted, Obama, Gibbs, and Axelrod all say the President is going forward with the discussion (though not necessarily legislation) and Schumer will hold hearings and is optimistic that legislation will pass this year.
At least organized labor is unified in support of legalization and in opposition to a guest worker program this time around. Perhaps that is what makes Obama and Schumer more optimistic about the prospects for immigration reform this time. Larger Democratic majorities in the House and Senate help, too.
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| -Economy May Force Obama to Abandon Plan to Overhaul Immigration |
AlphaCentauri |
Apr-24-09 09:32 AM |
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So he's basically admitting that illegal aliens... |
WriteDown |
Apr-24-09 09:37 AM |
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Maybe giving republicans a chance to rebuild their party with anti immigration agenda |
AlphaCentauri |
Apr-24-09 09:50 AM |
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Oh he would never admit that... |
Baby Snooks |
Apr-24-09 11:47 AM |
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illegal immigration demolished african americans |
ardvark |
Apr-24-09 12:41 PM |
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How absurd |
AlphaCentauri |
Apr-24-09 11:14 PM |
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i dont believe in overreaching to make excuses for african americans |
ardvark |
Apr-25-09 01:58 PM |
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as we know poverty and education are the mayor problems in both communities |
AlphaCentauri |
Apr-26-09 09:04 PM |
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It's the employers who break the law and hire undocumented workers that displace American workers |
dflprincess |
Apr-24-09 11:19 PM |
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employers took the bail $$ out and went overseas with the jobs |
ohio2007 |
Apr-26-09 12:26 PM |
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Good economy, bad economy - most repubs oppose immigration reform. |
pampango |
Apr-24-09 01:03 PM |
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Union "Leaders" |
WriteDown |
Apr-24-09 01:26 PM |
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Perhaps union members will be saved from their "out-of-touch" leaders by the "in-touch" repubs, |
pampango |
Apr-24-09 02:16 PM |
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The Teamsters were also willing allies of Bush... |
WriteDown |
Apr-26-09 12:23 PM |
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You must be talking about the Mexican truck drivers the Teamsters didn't want crossing the US |
ohio2007 |
Apr-26-09 12:30 PM |
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You talking to me? |
WriteDown |
Apr-26-09 12:33 PM |
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Yes, and I'm talking about the teamster DRIVE program and you quote a PAGE 6 JULY 2002 PDF ? |
ohio2007 |
Apr-26-09 12:53 PM |
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You misunderstand... |
WriteDown |
Apr-26-09 01:02 PM |
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But we're not talking about the Teamsters and Bush, but Pres. Obama, the AFL-CIO, and Change to Win. |
pampango |
Apr-27-09 05:14 AM |
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President Obama is out of step with truly progressive nations |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 10:25 AM |
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Neither Germany nor Japan has ever been open to immigration. Conservatives prize ethnic and |
pampango |
Apr-27-09 01:13 PM |
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Australia, Great Britain, etc... |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 01:34 PM |
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Shifting examples: very good. How about Canada which has immigration policies much more liberal |
pampango |
Apr-27-09 02:34 PM |
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Let's start with Canada... |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 02:48 PM |
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If you accept that immigrant "workers are needed due to lack of Canadian workers and not due to |
pampango |
Apr-27-09 06:17 PM |
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I think we are in agreement.... |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 10:54 PM |
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Not quite |
primavera |
Apr-28-09 01:31 AM |
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Japan's "progressive" immigration policy... |
primavera |
Apr-28-09 12:51 AM |
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Then again, maybe they know something you don't know |
primavera |
Apr-27-09 12:22 PM |
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Yep... |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 01:24 PM |
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Ah yes, of course, you're an expert |
primavera |
Apr-27-09 01:51 PM |
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He stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once |
KamaAina |
Apr-27-09 02:59 PM |
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So you support ANWR |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 03:03 PM |
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Were we discussing ANWR? |
primavera |
Apr-27-09 08:54 PM |
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You don't follow conversations very well do you? |
WriteDown |
Apr-27-09 10:52 PM |
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Did I say that union leaders were infallible? |
primavera |
Apr-28-09 12:06 AM |
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