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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:03 PM
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5. Good economy, bad economy - most repubs oppose immigration reform.
They filibustered it in the Senate in 2007. President Obama must really care about this deeply to give the repubs a potential issue for 2010. Or maybe he has a political strategy of giving the repubs enough rope to hang themselves. They won the "battle" over immigration reform in 2007, but may have made themselves look so narrow-minded that they lost the "war" in 2008.

The three repubs quoted in the article, Sessions, Martinez and King, all can't seem to wait to yell "amnesty bill", since that's how they think they won the "battle" last time. Of the Democrats quoted, Obama, Gibbs, and Axelrod all say the President is going forward with the discussion (though not necessarily legislation) and Schumer will hold hearings and is optimistic that legislation will pass this year.

At least organized labor is unified in support of legalization and in opposition to a guest worker program this time around. Perhaps that is what makes Obama and Schumer more optimistic about the prospects for immigration reform this time. Larger Democratic majorities in the House and Senate help, too.
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  -Economy May Force Obama to Abandon Plan to Overhaul Immigration AlphaCentauri  Apr-24-09 09:32 AM   #0 
  - So he's basically admitting that illegal aliens...  WriteDown   Apr-24-09 09:37 AM   #1 
  - Maybe giving republicans a chance to rebuild their party with anti immigration agenda  AlphaCentauri   Apr-24-09 09:50 AM   #2 
  - Oh he would never admit that...  Baby Snooks   Apr-24-09 11:47 AM   #3 
  - illegal immigration demolished african americans  ardvark   Apr-24-09 12:41 PM   #4 
     - How absurd  AlphaCentauri   Apr-24-09 11:14 PM   #8 
        - i dont believe in overreaching to make excuses for african americans  ardvark   Apr-25-09 01:58 PM   #10 
           - as we know poverty and education are the mayor problems in both communities  AlphaCentauri   Apr-26-09 09:04 PM   #17 
  - It's the employers who break the law and hire undocumented workers that displace American workers  dflprincess   Apr-24-09 11:19 PM   #9 
     - employers took the bail $$ out and went overseas with the jobs  ohio2007   Apr-26-09 12:26 PM   #12 
  - Good economy, bad economy - most repubs oppose immigration reform.  pampango   Apr-24-09 01:03 PM   #5 
     - Union "Leaders"  WriteDown   Apr-24-09 01:26 PM   #6 
        - Perhaps union members will be saved from their "out-of-touch" leaders by the "in-touch" repubs,  pampango   Apr-24-09 02:16 PM   #7 
        - The Teamsters were also willing allies of Bush...  WriteDown   Apr-26-09 12:23 PM   #11 
           - You must be talking about the Mexican truck drivers the Teamsters didn't want crossing the US  ohio2007   Apr-26-09 12:30 PM   #13 
           - You talking to me?  WriteDown   Apr-26-09 12:33 PM   #14 
              - Yes, and I'm talking about the teamster DRIVE program and you quote a PAGE 6 JULY 2002 PDF ?  ohio2007   Apr-26-09 12:53 PM   #15 
                 - You misunderstand...  WriteDown   Apr-26-09 01:02 PM   #16 
           - But we're not talking about the Teamsters and Bush, but Pres. Obama, the AFL-CIO, and Change to Win.  pampango   Apr-27-09 05:14 AM   #18 
              - President Obama is out of step with truly progressive nations  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 10:25 AM   #19 
                 - Neither Germany nor Japan has ever been open to immigration. Conservatives prize ethnic and  pampango   Apr-27-09 01:13 PM   #21 
                 - Australia, Great Britain, etc...  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 01:34 PM   #23 
                    - Shifting examples: very good. How about Canada which has immigration policies much more liberal  pampango   Apr-27-09 02:34 PM   #25 
                       - Let's start with Canada...  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 02:48 PM   #26 
                          - If you accept that immigrant "workers are needed due to lack of Canadian workers and not due to  pampango   Apr-27-09 06:17 PM   #29 
                             - I think we are in agreement....  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 10:54 PM   #32 
                                - Not quite  primavera   Apr-28-09 01:31 AM   #35 
                 - Japan's "progressive" immigration policy...  primavera   Apr-28-09 12:51 AM   #34 
        - Then again, maybe they know something you don't know  primavera   Apr-27-09 12:22 PM   #20 
           - Yep...  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 01:24 PM   #22 
              - Ah yes, of course, you're an expert  primavera   Apr-27-09 01:51 PM   #24 
                 - He stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once  KamaAina   Apr-27-09 02:59 PM   #27 
                 - So you support ANWR  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 03:03 PM   #28 
                    - Were we discussing ANWR?  primavera   Apr-27-09 08:54 PM   #30 
                       - You don't follow conversations very well do you?  WriteDown   Apr-27-09 10:52 PM   #31 
                          - Did I say that union leaders were infallible?  primavera   Apr-28-09 12:06 AM   #33 
 

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