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Tue Apr-14-09 12:09 PM
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| 13. GM seed use is insane |
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"suicide" seeds need to be outlawed immediately and around the world (but of course, the U.S. is front and center with this issue.)
Imagine - and this is a VERY REAL issue: suicide seeds (genetically modified seeds that die after one generation to protect "trademark") can and will infect other crops - just as GM corn has contaminated maize in Mexico.
In such an event, we would be facing famine because cross-bred/wind spread seeds from non-gm plants would no longer be able to germinate seeds.
To allow any company to produce such seeds is a crime against humanity. Short-term profit traded for the future of the entire earth. At what point to we recognize the insanity of such tampering with our very food supply for the sake of one company's profits??
I try not to panic when I see the actions taken in the name of profit for the few, but when I learned of the danger of suicide seeds (from farmers who vehemently oppose their existence) I wondered how much suffering the people of this world will endure before we stop the insanity. Do we have to face starvation in order to "get it?"
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| -Germany to ban cultivation of Monsanto GMO maize |
cal04 |
Apr-14-09 11:17 AM |
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I'd love to see the US follow suit! rec'd |
mod mom |
Apr-14-09 11:18 AM |
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soon if Americans don't change their brands |
lovuian |
Apr-14-09 02:06 PM |
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Good for Germany!!!!!!! |
DrDan |
Apr-14-09 11:19 AM |
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Smart countries..now the world |
Cha |
Apr-14-09 10:31 PM |
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K&R |
pleah |
Apr-14-09 11:21 AM |
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I hope they stick to it! |
LaurenG |
Apr-14-09 11:22 AM |
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"Hip Hip Hoooray!" - Human Beings |
SpiralHawk |
Apr-14-09 11:29 AM |
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Great! |
tabatha |
Apr-14-09 11:31 AM |
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The EU needs to ban it too. And if they refuse then the current leader needs to be fired. |
LiberalFighter |
Apr-14-09 11:38 AM |
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Doesn' work quite like that |
dipsydoodle |
Apr-14-09 02:16 PM |
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Nazis!!1! |
progressoid |
Apr-14-09 11:51 AM |
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Meanwhile, the rest of the world speaks the same way about Americans... |
Kaleko |
Apr-14-09 04:06 PM |
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But Xylon B is still legal! |
No More Bushbots |
Apr-14-09 04:15 PM |
#43 |
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Why wouldn't it be? |
jmowreader |
Apr-14-09 07:14 PM |
#85 |
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they should think of cuter names |
livefreest |
Apr-15-09 12:55 AM |
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They picked a really good name for it |
jmowreader |
Apr-16-09 06:04 AM |
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This is great news. Go Ilse! |
truedelphi |
Apr-14-09 11:55 AM |
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ALL GM crops have been banned.... |
bvar22 |
Apr-14-09 11:55 AM |
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Woo-hoo! I shop at ALDI all the time |
Wednesdays |
Apr-14-09 12:00 PM |
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Yesssss! :) ALDI ... |
SurfingScientist |
Apr-14-09 12:22 PM |
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Sounds like another discounter known as |
twitomy |
Apr-14-09 01:45 PM |
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good thing they can't plant that shit here- oh sorry |
biermeister |
Apr-14-09 12:06 PM |
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GM seed use is insane |
RainDog |
Apr-14-09 12:09 PM |
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Hybrids (not GMO) have been around a long time |
twitomy |
Apr-14-09 01:49 PM |
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I agree. Like how can "seeds" of a 1-generation plant be spread? |
winter999 |
Apr-14-09 02:06 PM |
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Unexpected consequences |
Kevin Cloyd |
Apr-14-09 04:29 PM |
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You are confusing a number of issues. Suicide seeds are indeed dangerous & different from hybrids |
HamdenRice |
Apr-15-09 06:18 AM |
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People really need to do their research... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 02:23 PM |
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So did they test the CRY1 Toxin from the Corn plant or from the Bacteria? |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:15 PM |
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Please link to this "word" |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 10:17 PM |
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It means they didn't test the effects of the Toxin produced withing the transgenic Plant. |
Grinchie |
Apr-15-09 06:50 AM |
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Once again... |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 08:20 AM |
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Suicide Seeds were conceived as a way to control the spread of escaped GMO |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:05 PM |
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sorrta self-limiting, don't ya think? |
enki23 |
Apr-14-09 05:11 PM |
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Obviously you've never seen the Pollen coating the countryside |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:20 PM |
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Nothing that a couple of thousand tons of pesticides won't |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 05:23 PM |
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went way over your head, eh? |
enki23 |
Apr-14-09 05:32 PM |
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So you are saying that Corn does not produce large amounts of pollen? |
Grinchie |
Apr-15-09 07:00 AM |
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I don't know what planet you live in but here on earth |
fasttense |
Apr-15-09 07:44 AM |
#116 |
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As usual, European countries exhibit |
BonnieJW |
Apr-14-09 12:41 PM |
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Monsanto is... |
indimuse |
Apr-14-09 12:55 PM |
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Could not agree with you more. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-14-09 05:34 PM |
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K & R |
dipsydoodle |
Apr-14-09 01:02 PM |
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Too bad we can't ban GM corn here |
rollingrock |
Apr-14-09 01:36 PM |
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Link Please |
No More Bushbots |
Apr-14-09 04:17 PM |
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Tom Vilsack |
rollingrock |
Apr-14-09 05:04 PM |
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All we need is Mandatory Labeling of GMO ingrediants. That will kill GMO in the US |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:21 PM |
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An estimated 70% of food supply in US and Canada |
rollingrock |
Apr-14-09 05:38 PM |
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Excellent list Rollingrock, thanks for posting it here. |
Grinchie |
Apr-15-09 07:04 AM |
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All righty, then. It's time SOMEONE stood up to those evil fuckers. |
Redstone |
Apr-14-09 02:18 PM |
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good. n/t |
orleans |
Apr-14-09 02:20 PM |
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The article does not say what the danger is. |
Deep13 |
Apr-14-09 02:23 PM |
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No one knows... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 02:24 PM |
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And that is exactly the problem... |
Javaman |
Apr-14-09 03:14 PM |
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Obviously, you were against Gregor Mendel's work as well.. |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 03:23 PM |
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oh for fucksakes... |
Javaman |
Apr-14-09 03:31 PM |
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Read again... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 03:37 PM |
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Don't try to explain Genetically Modified crops to these people |
No More Bushbots |
Apr-14-09 04:22 PM |
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I think it would be helpful to divide |
AtheistCrusader |
Apr-14-09 05:14 PM |
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Insults clearly show how limited the person throwing insults around is. |
Tumbulu |
Apr-14-09 11:09 PM |
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They just commit suicide now, and the workers get rashes when they harvest the Cotton. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:33 PM |
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Links to any of this? |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 10:13 PM |
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You're welcome to eat all the surplus GMO food you want Writedown |
Grinchie |
Apr-15-09 07:08 AM |
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GMO cotton is already in wide use. |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 08:22 AM |
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Your info is very old |
PaulaFarrell |
Apr-15-09 02:53 AM |
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You'd have to eat 20 pounds of "Golden" rice a day to get any benefit. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:28 PM |
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I like how you never provide any links for your assertions.. |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 06:04 PM |
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What horseshit. Why not spend a dollar a year for vitamin A supplenents? |
eridani |
Apr-14-09 10:06 PM |
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You're a genius... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 10:09 PM |
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You need not be too bright to figure it out |
eridani |
Apr-14-09 10:25 PM |
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The problem is always in the transportation.... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 10:43 PM |
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OK, 15 lbs, then |
eridani |
Apr-15-09 01:40 AM |
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You link to an article from 2001 on tripod? |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 08:20 AM |
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Try reading your own references |
eridani |
Apr-15-09 11:50 PM |
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Once again... |
WriteDown |
Apr-16-09 12:37 PM |
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Why duplicate effort? I gave you references for groups that are doing exactly that |
eridani |
Apr-16-09 09:52 PM |
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Strawman arguments don't work here Writedown |
Grinchie |
Apr-15-09 07:17 AM |
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Haha... |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 09:42 AM |
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Because you cannot patent a Regular Tomato. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:26 PM |
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Sure people know. |
Runcible Spoon |
Apr-14-09 03:28 PM |
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No argument against that. |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 03:41 PM |
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As far as I can tell |
AtheistCrusader |
Apr-14-09 05:17 PM |
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The trouble is, the Sex life of plants has been discontinued. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:40 PM |
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In addition to being a way of controlling the food supply........... |
rucognizant |
Apr-14-09 04:20 PM |
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How is insulin made? |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 04:33 PM |
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Pigs and sheep, mostly. |
AtheistCrusader |
Apr-14-09 05:19 PM |
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Insulin is made from recombinant DNA Altered E. Coli. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:45 PM |
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And those bacteria in big culture drums are highly modified so they CANNOT survive |
eridani |
Apr-14-09 10:08 PM |
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Almost like some sort of "suicide" gene was placed in them... |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 09:44 AM |
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Not really. They just deleted some genes for some synthetic pathway enzymes |
eridani |
Apr-16-09 01:39 AM |
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Yes, I know what genetic modification means. |
Deep13 |
Apr-14-09 06:22 PM |
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Everyone who has not read Jane Goodall's Harvest for Hope GO READ IT! |
pam4water |
Apr-15-09 02:49 PM |
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This feels like a replay of 2002-2003 |
DFW |
Apr-14-09 02:33 PM |
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The Germans are incredibly smart to distrust the U.S. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:48 PM |
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Interesting logic... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 10:15 PM |
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A little mistrust is always healthy |
DFW |
Apr-14-09 11:57 PM |
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I was just joshing around a bit.... |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 12:06 AM |
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That was one possibility I had considered |
DFW |
Apr-15-09 11:26 AM |
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Damn good news. Where compared with Bush is Obama? |
Metta |
Apr-14-09 02:35 PM |
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Obama is extremely quiet on this issue |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 05:49 PM |
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Watch and wait, then. |
Metta |
Apr-14-09 09:12 PM |
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good news for the planet! |
winyanstaz |
Apr-14-09 03:00 PM |
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This is great news. |
Pisces |
Apr-14-09 03:14 PM |
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its about the Bees |
lovuian |
Apr-14-09 03:19 PM |
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Good Point! |
rucognizant |
Apr-14-09 04:25 PM |
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No proven correlation... |
WriteDown |
Apr-14-09 04:32 PM |
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I feel absolutely gutted. All my Monsanto shares will suffer, and the Halliburton ones in sympathy, |
Joe Chi Minh |
Apr-14-09 03:58 PM |
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Bravo Germany! |
Vidar |
Apr-14-09 04:07 PM |
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Awesome! |
laylah |
Apr-14-09 04:38 PM |
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video: Germany bans Monsanto's GM maize |
cal04 |
Apr-14-09 04:40 PM |
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We need to eradicate Monsanto from the US too. n/t |
antimatter98 |
Apr-14-09 04:47 PM |
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There is no doubt that all GMO are risky. Perhaps Vilsack will require real testing in 5 years. |
Grinchie |
Apr-14-09 04:50 PM |
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Read "Seeds of Deception" if you really don't know why GM foods are controversial |
Duer 157099 |
Apr-14-09 04:59 PM |
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Great news from Germany. |
Optical.Catalyst |
Apr-14-09 05:27 PM |
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Ring Them Bells !! |
humus |
Apr-14-09 05:30 PM |
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That song is spot on!! RIng those bells ! ! ! |
truedelphi |
Apr-14-09 09:44 PM |
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Somewhere in the world where there will be real food!!!! |
valerief |
Apr-14-09 05:44 PM |
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We sould outlaw anything like this |
Summermoondancer |
Apr-14-09 05:45 PM |
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Hoping Spain & Italy will follow as well. |
LaPera |
Apr-14-09 05:46 PM |
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Biotech Biotech |
TheCML |
Apr-14-09 06:12 PM |
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Now this is what we need! |
Taverner |
Apr-14-09 06:20 PM |
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DIE MONSANTO.........FUCKING DIE! |
marmar |
Apr-14-09 07:29 PM |
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Good for "Old Europe"!!!!!!!!!!! Monsanto is a stain on life on this planet. |
MasonJar |
Apr-14-09 07:59 PM |
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Danke Schoen! |
Cha |
Apr-14-09 10:29 PM |
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so should we. and ban all food engineered by Dupont, Bayer,syngenta, AgrEvo |
livefreest |
Apr-15-09 12:53 AM |
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What crap. All maize is genetically modified. |
tclambert |
Apr-15-09 06:07 AM |
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Yep. Otherwise it would not be corn. |
panzerfaust |
Apr-15-09 07:05 AM |
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Try reading the Omnivores Dilemma for clarification. |
Grinchie |
Apr-15-09 07:33 AM |
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Bring back pellagra!!! nt |
WriteDown |
Apr-15-09 09:47 AM |
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thank you Germany |
ensho |
Apr-15-09 10:24 AM |
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Fantastic news. |
redqueen |
Apr-15-09 10:52 AM |
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"Suicide Seeds" |
my future me |
Apr-15-09 10:54 AM |
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keep the balance true |
humus |
Apr-15-09 12:32 PM |
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War by Monsanto -- Food by Monsanto -- Suicide seeds . . . NO . . . |
defendandprotect |
Apr-15-09 11:34 AM |
#127 |
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Hurray for Germany! There is one! Damn I'm too late to R '_' |
pam4water |
Apr-15-09 01:38 PM |
#129 |
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