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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:29 PM
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161. boldest thing ive ever seen done regarding Israel.
which says a lot, since these are just words...


i dont expect to much action when it comes to being fair handed in the region, but atleast this will give a global appearance that Israel can do whatever it wants and the united states will just be quiet... which cant be a good thing when you are trying to win over hearts and minds of the group of people you are currently in a conflict with
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  -Obama team warns U.S. lawmakers: Expect confrontation with Israel Barack_America  Apr-07-09 07:49 PM   #0 
  - Recommend! Good! nt  babylonsister   Apr-07-09 07:50 PM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-08-09 10:06 AM   #103 
  - No shit... Netanyahu is in bed with PNAC.... gaffney, et al. nt  Windy   Apr-07-09 07:50 PM   #2 
  - Gotta say that's bold  Zodiak   Apr-07-09 08:00 PM   #3 
  - Right?  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 08:02 PM   #5 
     - its a good tactic  Howardx   Apr-07-09 08:07 PM   #8 
        - Some of the power.  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 08:10 PM   #10 
           - Tough times for AIPAC. Financial meltdown. And, Madoff and Adelson are off-line.  leveymg   Apr-08-09 05:28 AM   #64 
              - yet the AJC was spending money hand over fist  ChairmanAgnostic   Apr-08-09 07:32 AM   #77 
              - That's very interesting.  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 08:12 AM   #80 
  - Wow. Who ever crosses Israel? K! nt  amyrose2712   Apr-07-09 08:01 PM   #4 
  - Eisenhower was the last one to do it big--but he still had some mojo from D Day  yurbud   Apr-07-09 11:12 PM   #36 
     - Actually just before the assassination JFK was holding back when Israel was asking for nukes.  balantz   Apr-08-09 12:56 AM   #48 
     - Are you insinuating Israel and Johnson had JFK assasinated?  Butch350   Apr-08-09 09:24 AM   #84 
        - I didn't say Israel and Johnson assassinated JFK.  balantz   Apr-08-09 09:55 AM   #97 
     - Hmmm  kenfrequed   Apr-08-09 12:39 PM   #131 
        - oil is thicker than Judeo-Christian blood  yurbud   Apr-08-09 12:45 PM   #133 
        - ???  tooko13   Apr-08-09 02:12 PM   #141 
        - Well  kenfrequed   Apr-08-09 02:51 PM   #147 
        - And James Baker, his Secretary of State, was almost an Arabist  Ken Burch   Apr-08-09 06:54 PM   #166 
  - Can we keep all that aid money now - we've got a bunch of citizens who could use aid.  polichick   Apr-07-09 08:02 PM   #6 
  - why are we subsidizing Israel? They have National Health Care!! n/t  Downwinder   Apr-07-09 08:26 PM   #12 
  - The 1978 Camp David Accords  14thColony   Apr-08-09 05:05 AM   #62 
     - We need a new deal, then. (nt)  varelse   Apr-08-09 07:53 AM   #79 
     - Money well spent.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 09:44 AM   #89 
     - I tend to agree  14thColony   Apr-08-09 09:47 AM   #90 
     - I don't understand why we need to fund them to keep them from warring  earcandle   Apr-08-09 10:45 AM   #112 
        - Of course you're right, but, the middle east is still mired in 3rd world problems.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 11:19 AM   #120 
        - Our hands are a little dirtier than that  Chulanowa   Apr-08-09 02:55 PM   #148 
           - yep. n/t.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 03:24 PM   #154 
        - Why that sounds  raysr   Apr-08-09 12:37 PM   #130 
     - no. we give them money so that they can buy american weapons systems.  mopinko   Apr-08-09 12:34 PM   #129 
        - Yes...  kenfrequed   Apr-08-09 12:42 PM   #132 
        - True, the agreement provides that the money  14thColony   Apr-08-09 03:33 PM   #157 
  - We give Israel Billions of dollars each year for whatever they  yy4me   Apr-08-09 10:16 AM   #105 
  - That's the quickest way...  wuvuj   Apr-08-09 04:22 PM   #158 
  - I have an idea  raysr   Apr-08-09 12:33 PM   #128 
  - Well, that's quite a 'bold' move. He seems to like to draw the line in the  acmavm   Apr-07-09 08:07 PM   #7 
  - LOL!  aquart   Apr-07-09 09:25 PM   #24 
  - It is about fucking time!  nradisic   Apr-07-09 08:09 PM   #9 
  - I don't know if I'd put it as "Obama is saying no mas!"  Ken Burch   Apr-07-09 11:50 PM   #43 
  - How many times has Netanyahu been Prime Minister?  santamargarita   Apr-07-09 08:24 PM   #11 
  - All retreads. Bennie is the most right wing of all.  louis-t   Apr-08-09 10:58 AM   #114 
  - K&R In hope that this thread sticks around and doesn't end up in the dungeon... n/t  Turborama   Apr-07-09 08:33 PM   #13 
  - Well this is definitely about "US policy in I/P issues".  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 08:37 PM   #14 
     - If it did, you'd have my sympathy  Turborama   Apr-07-09 08:39 PM   #16 
        - Yeah, I'm sorry about your thread.  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 11:06 PM   #33 
  - Israel is nothing but a pain in the ass...  and-justice-for-all   Apr-07-09 08:39 PM   #15 
  - I think the UN should seal off Jerusalem so that nobody can use it until they agree to play nice  Hippo_Tron   Apr-08-09 02:24 AM   #53 
  - That's so Star Trek! I love it. Imagine, sealed under glass, for decades.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 09:48 AM   #91 
  - Our support for Israel is a pain in the ass.  L0oniX   Apr-08-09 10:14 AM   #104 
  - Lieberman , DWS, and the other Israeli lobby puppets are gonna have a conniption.  HooptieWagon   Apr-07-09 08:49 PM   #17 
  - You've also got to wonder what Rahm thinks of all this. nt  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 09:07 PM   #20 
  - Good point. n/t  HooptieWagon   Apr-07-09 11:14 PM   #37 
  - Then again, Rahm might be the one guy who could get Congress to tell AIPAC to fuck off  Ken Burch   Apr-07-09 11:48 PM   #41 
     - I wonder about that too.  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 08:29 AM   #81 
     - I'm not sure  kenfrequed   Apr-08-09 12:50 PM   #134 
        - There are different Israel lobbies, this is true.  Ken Burch   Apr-08-09 06:53 PM   #165 
           - But...  kenfrequed   Apr-09-09 09:11 AM   #175 
  - It's the other Lieberman who's going to be a major problem. He's already caused diplomatic rifts  leveymg   Apr-08-09 05:41 AM   #65 
  - Hillary is going to be one busy lady..  stillcool   Apr-07-09 08:50 PM   #18 
  - Don't forget Mitchell.  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 09:03 PM   #19 
  - I will support Obama in this .  Mari333   Apr-07-09 09:08 PM   #21 
  - Use the rope a dope Barack.  RedCloud   Apr-07-09 09:13 PM   #22 
  - Kicking! ......eom.  Hotler   Apr-07-09 09:17 PM   #23 
  - Very happy to K/R this  Autumn   Apr-07-09 09:31 PM   #25 
  - Whew! Fasten your seatbelts, it's  Kind of Blue   Apr-07-09 09:48 PM   #26 
  - K&R for Obama  Jefferson23   Apr-07-09 09:51 PM   #27 
  - This is change?!?!?!?  Frank Booth   Apr-07-09 09:55 PM   #28 
  - K R....Brillient chess move  ooglymoogly   Apr-07-09 10:00 PM   #29 
  - Obama to host Seder Thursday night  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 10:07 PM   #30 
     - Are you kidding me? A self-proclaimed Christian who is really a closet Muslim  rateyes   Apr-08-09 06:38 AM   #70 
     - Like a good chess player, he's going to win.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 09:51 AM   #95 
     - Hmm, I wonder if this means he'll also be celebrating the end of Ramadan....  WorseBeforeBetter   Apr-08-09 02:04 PM   #139 
        - GO OBAMA. GO !!!  roberto   Apr-08-09 03:21 PM   #151 
           - I'll try to "through" what, Roberto?  WorseBeforeBetter   Apr-08-09 04:32 PM   #159 
  - ROFLMAO!!! Obama is a joke!!!....He speaketh with fork tongue!!! LIAR!!!!!  goforit   Apr-07-09 10:10 PM   #31 
  - Harriet?  Barack_America   Apr-07-09 10:39 PM   #32 
  - Don't forget the Re-education camps that Michele Bachmann spoke about  IndianaGreen   Apr-07-09 11:11 PM   #35 
  - Actually, with a LOT of the right, they'd just be Education Camps.  Ken Burch   Apr-08-09 03:50 AM   #56 
  - Er...this is an instance where the guy DIDN'T move to the right or sell out  Ken Burch   Apr-07-09 11:47 PM   #40 
  - I'm hoping it's heavy in sarcasm, but with DU recently, who the fuck knows, right?  Drunken Irishman   Apr-08-09 03:19 AM   #55 
  - waah. poor wittle you. better run to ralphie and start working on his  cali   Apr-08-09 04:23 AM   #58 
  - im pretty sure ole ralphie would approve of this  iamthebandfanman   Apr-08-09 06:31 PM   #162 
  - What is wrong with Barrack!  Butch350   Apr-08-09 09:56 AM   #98 
  - Literacy helps  muryan   Apr-08-09 02:35 PM   #146 
  - If you had actually followed the primaries, you would have known all of this was coming.  DutchLiberal   Apr-08-09 07:17 PM   #167 
  - a president who doesn't let Israel dictate our Israel policy? That's a hopeful sign  yurbud   Apr-07-09 11:11 PM   #34 
  - Need help to understand the issue  Kalyan   Apr-07-09 11:42 PM   #38 
  - Water  Turborama   Apr-08-09 12:32 AM   #46 
  - there are international agreements  Kalyan   Apr-08-09 12:54 AM   #47 
  - The settlements haven't just been built in randomly chosen areas  Turborama   Apr-08-09 02:55 AM   #54 
     - great input. i never knew about the water issue earlier.  Kalyan   Apr-08-09 04:34 AM   #60 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-20-09 04:41 AM   #177 
  - Studies on Israel or water wars in general?nt  amyrose2712   Apr-08-09 05:25 AM   #63 
  - Regarding this particular issue  Turborama   Apr-09-09 02:26 AM   #173 
     - What is your job? I am..  amyrose2712   Apr-09-09 05:16 AM   #174 
        - Sorry about the late reply, just noticed yours...  Turborama   Apr-20-09 04:01 AM   #176 
  - And 270,000 Israeli settlers, and the Palestinian land on the West Bank they occupy.  leveymg   Apr-08-09 05:50 AM   #66 
  - Netanyahu is the leader of Israel's right wing  Hippo_Tron   Apr-08-09 02:14 AM   #51 
  - You really need to stop being so rational.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 09:57 AM   #99 
  - Good move  SpartanDem   Apr-07-09 11:43 PM   #39 
  - K & R  AzDar   Apr-07-09 11:48 PM   #42 
  - This is good news  pjt7   Apr-08-09 12:01 AM   #44 
  - Israel needs a different leader  Rosa Luxemburg   Apr-08-09 12:13 AM   #45 
  - I'll tell you this guy is amazing me. First I'm bummed about his position  Left Coast2020   Apr-08-09 01:40 AM   #50 
  - Way to do preemption right, Yay Obama! nt  Mithreal   Apr-08-09 01:36 AM   #49 
  - I don't think Netanyahu and Obama are as divided as they appear to be  Hippo_Tron   Apr-08-09 02:21 AM   #52 
  - There's some truth to those statements. But, the jagged edges are very real.  leveymg   Apr-08-09 06:03 AM   #67 
  - Unfortunately...  Yukari Yakumo   Apr-08-09 10:00 AM   #100 
  - KICK!  knixphan   Apr-08-09 03:51 AM   #57 
  - Mitchell back to the Middle East  laststeamtrain   Apr-08-09 04:29 AM   #59 
  - What? No one invited Condi?  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 10:22 AM   #108 
  - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu  pjt7   Apr-08-09 04:35 AM   #61 
  - KNR!  indimuse   Apr-08-09 06:19 AM   #68 
  - K&R  pleah   Apr-08-09 06:36 AM   #69 
  - Gobama, we got your back on this Obama. We can pressure our reps too.  harun   Apr-08-09 06:44 AM   #71 
  - Let Bibi know that Israel can't push the US around anymore, Mr. President.  rateyes   Apr-08-09 06:51 AM   #72 
  - This is excellent news! Does that mean if Israel attacks Iran, we  freemarketer6   Apr-08-09 07:01 AM   #73 
  - Good ! Neocon Netanyahu is a cancer to the world.  mod mom   Apr-08-09 07:04 AM   #74 
  - This will be interesting  ayeshahaqqiqa   Apr-08-09 07:27 AM   #75 
  - I hope this is true  TomClash   Apr-08-09 07:29 AM   #76 
  - Netanyahu is a right wing Israeli neo con, I hope Obama puts him  bdamomma   Apr-08-09 07:40 AM   #78 
  - It's about time  HughMoran   Apr-08-09 09:08 AM   #82 
  - Great news, great thread! K & R!!  jonestonesusa   Apr-08-09 09:19 AM   #83 
  - Sane, long-overdue leadership.  redqueen   Apr-08-09 09:25 AM   #85 
  - That perfectly describes my feelings.  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 09:51 AM   #94 
  - This man's on a roll!! I approve! It's a no-lose. Even if he can't get it done, at least  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 09:42 AM   #86 
  - Good!! We've been Israel's lap dog for far too long. nt  bowens43   Apr-08-09 09:42 AM   #87 
  - WEALTHY LOOKING FOR ANY REASON TO BREAK OBAMA SUPPORT.... here comes the first attempt  happygoluckytoyou   Apr-08-09 09:43 AM   #88 
  - Could you elaborate?  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 09:50 AM   #93 
  - At the RNC NYC con for B*, the "Jews For Bush" were out with their banner.  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 10:28 AM   #109 
     - i hope you realize that they're a very small minority of the Jewish vote in this country  cali   Apr-08-09 11:21 AM   #121 
        - Yes, and no. I personally know several jewish people who call themselves  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 03:21 PM   #153 
  - About time....good move  dbackjon   Apr-08-09 09:50 AM   #92 
  - It's about time. Good going, Obama.  Vidar   Apr-08-09 09:52 AM   #96 
  - This could put Obama & his family's lives in danger.  loudsue   Apr-08-09 10:04 AM   #101 
  - AIPAC will stop at nothing  mr_smith007   Apr-08-09 10:06 AM   #102 
  - This could bring them "over here," but it might be the only way to force a  jazzjunkysue   Apr-08-09 10:30 AM   #111 
  - I smell a false flag attack n/t  Holly_Hobby   Apr-08-09 10:53 AM   #113 
  - Excellent  riverwalker   Apr-08-09 10:21 AM   #106 
  - Good to hear, it is about time Amreica stopped this cozy relationship once and for all  Tarc   Apr-08-09 10:21 AM   #107 
  - Very true. nt  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 09:29 PM   #171 
  - Finally....  AngryOldDem   Apr-08-09 10:28 AM   #110 
  - Hear, hear. nt  stubtoe   Apr-08-09 11:04 AM   #116 
  - well that's a pleasant surprise. Surprised Rahm, AIPAC, and the gang are allowing it.  FLAprogressive   Apr-08-09 11:00 AM   #115 
  - um, Rahm and AIPAC do not control the U.S. government  cali   Apr-08-09 11:13 AM   #119 
  - here's a wild fucking idea:  harmonicon   Apr-08-09 11:05 AM   #117 
  - I STAND and applaud Obama on this.  bvar22   Apr-08-09 11:12 AM   #118 
  - wow-now this is a bold shot across the bow--good!  katty   Apr-08-09 11:24 AM   #122 
  - Would we accept an Al Queda state that vowed to destroy us on our border  stray cat   Apr-08-09 11:25 AM   #123 
  - That's one of the things I'm wondering about  creeksneakers2   Apr-08-09 07:54 PM   #169 
  - Avraham Burg gets 'tough' on Israel at Georgetown University  reprehensor   Apr-08-09 11:27 AM   #124 
  - Wow! This is a tectonic shift!  jimlup   Apr-08-09 11:39 AM   #125 
  - good! time to cut off the zionist welfare  Dukkha   Apr-08-09 12:22 PM   #126 
  - Wolf Blitzer's head exploding in  dgibby   Apr-08-09 12:22 PM   #127 
  - Limbaugh is already on the story, this from Media Matters:  Jefferson23   Apr-08-09 01:09 PM   #135 
  - Not surprising.  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 01:17 PM   #137 
  - How do the West Bank & Gaza become the Palestinian state?  Martin Eden   Apr-08-09 01:12 PM   #136 
  - TIME Mideast Blog: Obama-Israel: A Widening Gap?  Scurrilous   Apr-08-09 02:01 PM   #138 
  - Thanks for posting that.  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 02:08 PM   #140 
  - Thanks for that added bit of backstory- very useful!  Poll_Blind   Apr-08-09 02:26 PM   #145 
  - Go Mr. President!  treestar   Apr-08-09 02:13 PM   #142 
  - Well, despite my dislike of many other things he's done, I am greatly relieved that  closeupready   Apr-08-09 02:17 PM   #143 
  - Okay, but don't blame me if this throws a monkey wrench into the whole Rapture thing.  No Elephants   Apr-08-09 02:22 PM   #144 
  - Good for him!  Raineyb   Apr-08-09 02:57 PM   #149 
  - YES !!!!!!!!!!!  roberto   Apr-08-09 03:08 PM   #150 
  - Some precedent for this sort of thing.....  burning rain   Apr-08-09 03:21 PM   #152 
  - i support obama fully in this  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-08-09 03:24 PM   #155 
  - Yank our military support out from under the bastard and see who doesn't want peace in the Middle  county worker   Apr-08-09 03:26 PM   #156 
  - K&R  me b zola   Apr-08-09 05:16 PM   # 
  - K&R  me b zola   Apr-08-09 05:16 PM   #160 
  - boldest thing ive ever seen done regarding Israel.  iamthebandfanman   Apr-08-09 06:29 PM   #161 
  - .  Barack_America   Apr-08-09 07:47 PM   #168 
  - You can't do business with nazi-like right-wing extremists.  DutchLiberal   Apr-08-09 06:42 PM   #163 
  - What ? This is scandalous !!1!  jeff30997   Apr-08-09 06:45 PM   #164 
  - Frankly, Ill believe this when I see it.  The abyss   Apr-08-09 09:13 PM   #170 
  - I'm with you on that. I'll believe it when I see it. n/t  balantz   Apr-09-09 01:42 AM   #172 
  - Finally, someone in the White House with a backbone.  sarcasmo   Apr-20-09 11:11 AM   #178 
 

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