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DavidMS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 06:40 PM
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76. Thats my only problem with higher tobacco taxes
Increased organized crime, lawlessness and tobacco smuggling. I would prefer to raise the taxes at a slightly slower rate to discourage smuggling and organized crime.
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  -Smokers face a hit as tobacco taxes spike onehandle  Mar-29-09 10:19 AM   #0 
  - Welcome to my world....  BooScout   Mar-29-09 10:21 AM   #1 
  - I'm quitting. Sorry, poor children, I won't be able to fund your healthcare.  glowing   Mar-29-09 10:23 AM   #2 
  - You also won't be the cause of the children needing Health care.  Bandit   Mar-29-09 10:52 AM   #14 
  - How do you know he/she smokes around children?  Bake   Mar-30-09 10:44 AM   #128 
  - Yes, because the only reason children need  kiva   Mar-30-09 11:04 AM   #131 
  - Tobacco taxes is the only funding the program receives...?  LanternWaste   Apr-16-09 05:10 PM   #167 
  - I'm a light smoker  panader0   Mar-29-09 10:26 AM   #3 
  - I second that,  debunkthelies   Mar-29-09 02:25 PM   #55 
  - Don't you have that backwards?  Thor_MN   Mar-29-09 05:19 PM   #68 
     - You read my post wrong.  debunkthelies   Mar-29-09 10:24 PM   #96 
  - Get real!  ProudDad   Mar-29-09 09:33 PM   #93 
  - What's your "filthy habit"? Or are you pure Through and through?  panader0   Mar-29-09 10:55 PM   #100 
  - Are you implying that everyone has a habit as filthy as smoking?  TroglodyteScholar   Mar-30-09 08:10 AM   #122 
  - Educate yourself.  bunnies   Apr-01-09 08:57 AM   #162 
     - You should brush up on your reading skills  ProudDad   Apr-18-09 12:58 PM   #179 
  - tax both. they both kill. there are zero levels of safe smoke for non smokers.  roguevalley   Mar-30-09 07:38 AM   #120 
  - The two are separate issues, but  noamnety   Mar-30-09 11:39 AM   #135 
  - Quit. nt  old mark   Mar-29-09 10:28 AM   #4 
  - I already dropped 'em when they raised their prices!  Why Syzygy   Mar-29-09 10:29 AM   #5 
  - I went cold turkey years ago  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 10:29 AM   #6 
  - Federal taxes  Torn_Scorned_Ignored   Mar-29-09 10:29 AM   #7 
  - It is the price you pay  Summermoondancer   Mar-30-09 10:51 AM   #130 
  - Cigarettes are $10 a pack in NYC...  The_Commonist   Mar-29-09 10:31 AM   #8 
  - Who the hell pays taxes on cigarettes?  billyoc   Mar-29-09 10:35 AM   #9 
  - Thanks for that, billyoc.  tosh   Mar-29-09 10:48 AM   #12 
  - Almost all smokers buy in convenience stores or grocery stores.  onehandle   Mar-29-09 11:08 AM   #18 
  - Well, those smokers deserve to foot the bill for health care  billyoc   Mar-29-09 11:17 AM   #22 
  - Has anyone tested this site?  santamargarita   Mar-29-09 12:33 PM   #39 
  - Thanks for that link  Seedersandleechers   Mar-29-09 08:17 PM   #89 
  - I used to use yesmoke, but they quit shipping to the US  Abacus   Mar-30-09 10:29 AM   #126 
  - Good to read a post from someone who lives in the real world  SOS   Mar-30-09 10:51 AM   #129 
  - Wow there are some great prices on spirits!  Carni   Mar-30-09 11:13 AM   #134 
  - ...  ixion   Mar-29-09 10:41 AM   #10 
  - Yet, no such tax increases  Kajsa   Mar-29-09 10:45 AM   #11 
  - when did congress pass this tax increase?  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 10:54 AM   #15 
  - See the link,  Kajsa   Mar-29-09 11:06 AM   #17 
     - Barack Obama signed that health initiative soon after taking office.  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 12:33 PM   #38 
  - alcohol is in line for taxation  endless october   Mar-29-09 11:15 AM   #20 
     - Good.  Abq_Sarah   Mar-31-09 01:06 AM   #147 
  - Oh noes, get the WAAAAHmbulance!!!  Odin2005   Mar-29-09 10:52 AM   #13 
  - Just wait till beer gets hit with  Kajsa   Mar-29-09 11:24 AM   #26 
  - Warmth will fill my heart  frustrated_lefty   Mar-29-09 01:08 PM   #45 
     - ABSOLUTELY !!!  russspeakeasy   Mar-29-09 07:21 PM   #80 
  - Great additional incentive to quit (n/t)  Webster Green   Mar-29-09 11:03 AM   #16 
  - My incentive was two weeks ago  Milspec   Mar-29-09 11:18 AM   #24 
  - My incentive was a good friend's lung cancer diagnosis.  Speck Tater   Mar-29-09 11:30 AM   #27 
  - Incentive? I Think Not - Try Coercion  pmorlan1   Mar-29-09 01:05 PM   #44 
  - Ah jeez!  Webster Green   Mar-29-09 01:19 PM   #47 
  - It help me quit, but that was years ago when they first really starting taxing  harun   Mar-29-09 01:50 PM   #51 
  - My incentive was surviving a massive myocardial infarc. n/t  WheelWalker   Mar-31-09 07:51 PM   #158 
  - i hate regressive taxes.  endless october   Mar-29-09 11:14 AM   #19 
  - since tobacco is arguably more addictive than heroin  G_j   Mar-29-09 11:16 AM   #21 
  - But then the government would have to find legitimate ways of funding pork  primavera   Mar-29-09 12:33 PM   #37 
  - Exactly  vanboggie   Mar-29-09 05:22 PM   #69 
  - Well put. nt  Robb   Mar-29-09 07:30 PM   #84 
  - Have you tried the electronic cig?  pamela   Mar-30-09 03:37 AM   #108 
  - Never heard of it  vanboggie   Mar-30-09 03:54 AM   #109 
  - check out this forum...  pamela   Mar-30-09 04:14 AM   #113 
  - Thank you Pamela!  vanboggie   Mar-30-09 11:58 AM   #139 
  - When you get your first e-cigarette you will enjoy ....  Bryn   Mar-31-09 12:00 AM   #146 
     - Most interesting  vanboggie   Mar-31-09 05:31 PM   #151 
  - They are nice, aren't they?  suffragette   Mar-31-09 01:48 AM   #148 
  - Oops sorry, I didn't answer your question about the ban...  pamela   Mar-30-09 04:27 AM   #114 
  - thanks for the info- how long do the cartridges last you?  snooper2   Mar-30-09 10:33 AM   #127 
     - Cartridges can last indefinitely...  pamela   Mar-30-09 01:52 PM   #141 
        - I love my e-cigarette which is DSE901  Bryn   Mar-30-09 11:39 PM   #144 
  - Well said. Thank you. n/t  ms liberty   Mar-30-09 07:12 AM   #118 
  - Having gone through withdrawal  ProudDad   Apr-17-09 02:30 PM   #174 
  - You'ld rather they sling their asses into prison? (n/t)  ProudDad   Mar-29-09 09:36 PM   #94 
  - I don't understand your question. nt  G_j   Mar-29-09 11:09 PM   #102 
  - Wouldn't it be nice to have free smoke cessation treatments, clinics and such?  Doremus   Mar-31-09 06:01 PM   #152 
  - looks like I will have to change my addiction to something cheap toxic and deadly  Mari333   Mar-29-09 11:18 AM   #23 
  - tobacco tax  Mauibob   Mar-29-09 11:23 AM   #25 
  - oh what website did you use to order from russia  Mari333   Mar-29-09 11:32 AM   #28 
  - russian cigarettes  Mauibob   Mar-29-09 11:57 AM   #32 
     - thanks! nt  Mari333   Mar-29-09 11:58 AM   #33 
     - See reply #18. nt  onehandle   Mar-29-09 12:05 PM   #34 
     - Thanks  debunkthelies   Mar-29-09 02:35 PM   #58 
  - No Russian Cigs for me  pmorlan1   Mar-29-09 12:53 PM   #41 
  - Thats my only problem with higher tobacco taxes  DavidMS   Mar-29-09 06:40 PM   #76 
  - What's ironic to me  Bluenorthwest   Mar-29-09 11:37 AM   #29 
  - That 'other' plant causes pleasure.  riverdeep   Apr-18-09 02:04 AM   #178 
  - Hitting the poor the hardest  DissedByBush   Mar-29-09 11:39 AM   #30 
  - Nicotine slavery hits the poor the hardest.  onehandle   Mar-29-09 11:52 AM   #31 
  - May I choose another vice to persecute?  DissedByBush   Mar-29-09 02:11 PM   #52 
     - Yes. That's one of the handful of old responses throw out.  onehandle   Mar-29-09 03:47 PM   #62 
     - Alzheimer's  DissedByBush   Mar-29-09 08:04 PM   #87 
     - Or better yet,  christx30   Mar-29-09 10:28 PM   #97 
        - self delete  vanboggie   Mar-30-09 12:40 AM   #103 
           - If you don't want to  christx30   Mar-30-09 11:09 PM   #143 
  - Poor people don't have an excuse to smoke  Tyler Generation   Mar-29-09 01:05 PM   #43 
     - And you think you have the power  DissedByBush   Mar-29-09 01:43 PM   #49 
     - How True  debunkthelies   Mar-29-09 02:41 PM   #59 
     - Wow, objective thought process from you two!  Tyler Generation   Mar-29-09 05:32 PM   #71 
     - Being poor is a huge stressor.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Mar-29-09 06:02 PM   #74 
        - I smoked for 10 years and quit actually  Tyler Generation   Mar-29-09 07:19 PM   #79 
        - So, what, you want a cookie?  ElboRuum   Mar-30-09 09:09 AM   #125 
        - I wonder how you'd respond to the following tobacco industry report  Dreamer Tatum   Mar-30-09 11:54 AM   #136 
     - Seriously, you get to decide what's good and bad?  DissedByBush   Mar-30-09 11:59 PM   #145 
     - I don't think  christx30   Apr-17-09 11:33 AM   #173 
     - I don't get it either....  WestSeattle2   Mar-29-09 01:43 PM   #50 
     - Let me put it this way..  wroberts189   Mar-30-09 02:24 AM   #106 
     - No "bleeding heart" ...listen ..have you ever got addicted? nt  wroberts189   Mar-30-09 02:19 AM   #105 
  - i quit smoking in 82 when cigs were around a dollar a pack  madrchsod   Mar-29-09 12:24 PM   #35 
  - Thank you feds...  SlicerDicer-   Mar-29-09 12:28 PM   #36 
  - you are evil because you smoke  Mari333   Mar-29-09 12:39 PM   #40 
  - Ok its rant time!  SlicerDicer-   Mar-29-09 12:54 PM   #42 
  - Authoritarian Tobacco Police  pmorlan1   Mar-29-09 01:17 PM   #46 
  - Just wait....  WestSeattle2   Mar-29-09 01:36 PM   #48 
  - Amen  debunkthelies   Mar-29-09 02:53 PM   #61 
  - seriously, everyone is sooo holier-than-thou about everything nowadays. very boring.  krabigirl   Mar-31-09 06:45 PM   #154 
  - epic post, awesome  joshcryer   Apr-16-09 05:04 PM   #166 
  - And they just peacefully pushed me to quit...  LanternWaste   Apr-16-09 05:12 PM   #168 
  - I've been smoking for 53 years and never  downindixie   Mar-29-09 02:11 PM   #53 
  - K&R  debunkthelies   Mar-29-09 02:43 PM   #60 
  - This regressive policy will hit young smokers hardest!  Dogmudgeon   Mar-29-09 02:14 PM   #54 
  - The Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 was signed into law oFebruary 4  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 05:10 PM   #67 
  - Can we at least agree...  bain_sidhe   Mar-29-09 02:29 PM   #56 
  - *crickets*  bain_sidhe   Mar-29-09 05:23 PM   #70 
  - ..but in the same breath you have no problem saying  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 06:13 PM   #75 
  - The rich receive the benefits  bain_sidhe   Mar-29-09 06:48 PM   #78 
  - Stop making sense!  Tyler Generation   Mar-29-09 07:23 PM   #81 
  - *more crickets*  bain_sidhe   Mar-29-09 06:44 PM   #77 
  - Would you say that  christx30   Mar-29-09 10:44 PM   #99 
  - The difference is  bain_sidhe   Mar-30-09 11:57 AM   #138 
     - But only smokers  christx30   Mar-30-09 03:15 PM   #142 
  - Count me in. nt  wroberts189   Mar-30-09 02:26 AM   #107 
  - Am I missing something? Whats the problem here?  rd_kent   Mar-29-09 02:32 PM   #57 
  - Suddenly...  DatManFromNawlins   Mar-29-09 04:12 PM   #63 
  - What would you say  christx30   Mar-29-09 10:56 PM   #101 
  - Those e-cigs are looking better & better, aren't they?  annabanana   Mar-29-09 04:24 PM   #64 
  - We can't hope to reform healthcare without contolling its cost.  Deep13   Mar-29-09 04:51 PM   #65 
  - Cigarette tax kicks in April 1st ( 258% TAX increase for the "roll your own" crowd ))  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 05:00 PM   #66 
  - No, some idiot will give Tobacco companies a free pass because of their bias  Tyler Generation   Mar-29-09 05:43 PM   #72 
  - I pay for my own kids health care  downindixie   Mar-29-09 05:53 PM   #73 
  - ROTFL!  primavera   Mar-29-09 07:51 PM   #86 
  - By that logic...  bunnies   Apr-01-09 09:12 AM   #163 
  - You are really Jeb Bush aren't you????  russspeakeasy   Mar-29-09 07:24 PM   #82 
     - If this were a sporting event....  Deep13   Mar-30-09 08:13 AM   #123 
  - So how are they going to fund SCHIP when we all stop smoking? Get ready beer drinkers, wine, butter  williesgirl   Mar-29-09 07:24 PM   #83 
  - You're not going to quit.  Codeine   Mar-29-09 07:36 PM   #85 
     - You're wrong  Bryn   Mar-29-09 10:40 PM   #98 
     - Yes- they will. I did.  Marrah_G   Mar-30-09 07:15 AM   #119 
  - A "fair tax" would be on something everyone uses...I figure  rasputin1952   Mar-29-09 08:12 PM   #88 
  - the gas tax is only a few short months away from the floor of congress  ohio2007   Mar-29-09 08:38 PM   #90 
     - Gas can have unwanted consequences...  rasputin1952   Mar-29-09 08:42 PM   #91 
  - WooHoo!!!  ProudDad   Mar-29-09 09:29 PM   #92 
  - Sounds like a black market opportunity  martymar64   Mar-29-09 10:05 PM   #95 
  - Better hurry  kster   Mar-30-09 04:05 AM   #111 
  - I am an x-smoker who has great empathy for those who still smoke.  wroberts189   Mar-30-09 02:16 AM   #104 
  - +1  Bluebear   Mar-30-09 04:14 AM   #112 
  - An unfair tax always creates an underground "Heist nets more than $90,000 in cigarettes"  kster   Mar-30-09 03:58 AM   #110 
  - Smokers are too easy of a target.  canineunits   Mar-30-09 06:31 AM   #115 
  - Smokers are too easy of a target.  TXRAT2   Mar-30-09 06:58 AM   #116 
     - Why do you think the taxes collected never go to smoking cessation programs?  primavera   Mar-30-09 07:55 AM   #121 
  - I don't see a problem with this.  KillCapitalism   Mar-30-09 07:11 AM   #117 
  - I see a problem with this...  ElboRuum   Mar-30-09 09:02 AM   #124 
  - Arguing economic freedom against someone named "KillCapitalism"  Dreamer Tatum   Mar-30-09 11:56 AM   #137 
     - I do not believe that you always pick the low-hanging fruit first.  ElboRuum   Mar-30-09 12:50 PM   #140 
  - I have a big problem with this.  Zavulon   Mar-31-09 06:36 PM   #153 
  - Then why just tobacco? How about booze, big macs, sugar etc  ShareTheWoods   Mar-31-09 08:16 PM   #160 
  - Sin taxes always affect the poorest in out Nation.  DainBramaged   Mar-30-09 11:05 AM   #132 
  - I hope they do the same with alcohol. nt  Christa   Mar-30-09 11:08 AM   #133 
  - That would be good, but 1,000 liquor lobbyists will stop it.  SOS   Apr-17-09 11:07 AM   #172 
  - treat it like the payroll tax..  flaminbats   Mar-31-09 11:43 AM   #149 
  - I intend to keep smoking  mokawanis   Mar-31-09 11:50 AM   #150 
  - Cool. When I used to smoke, I preferred to roll my own.  krabigirl   Mar-31-09 06:45 PM   #155 
  - Lets place a tax on baby formula, food, diapers, clothing, etc...  -..__...   Mar-31-09 07:06 PM   #156 
  - They call that a sales tax  ohio2007   Mar-31-09 07:32 PM   #157 
     - Sales tax are instituted by states...  -..__...   Mar-31-09 08:21 PM   #161 
        - Hate the fucking "kalashnikitty"  ProudDad   Apr-17-09 02:35 PM   #176 
  - Why not add fifty cents tax to every ounce of booze too?  ShareTheWoods   Mar-31-09 08:11 PM   #159 
  - How about a tax on tea. ? Smokers need tax dog house companion  ohio2007   Apr-16-09 04:40 PM   #165 
  - I quit at one dollar a pack  workinclasszero   Apr-16-09 08:33 AM   #164 
  - I felt like a schmuck when I realized...  LanternWaste   Apr-16-09 05:21 PM   #170 
  - It's the American way  ohheckyeah   Apr-16-09 05:14 PM   #169 
  - Ahhhh, the Nicotine Nazis are on a roll...  hayu_lol   Apr-17-09 07:11 AM   #171 
     - Eliminate the advertising deduction  ProudDad   Apr-17-09 02:33 PM   #175 
  - Our government knows smokers are addicted to the nicotine and takes advantage of it  Imagevision   Apr-17-09 03:25 PM   #177 
 

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