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20. I don't think they would peacefully coexist......
if the fish could fight back.

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  -Scientists win Texas evolution debate Lone_Star_Dem  Mar-26-09 01:06 PM   #0 
  - 50/50.  onehandle   Mar-26-09 01:10 PM   #1 
  - Split along dogmatic/rational lines  Bolo Boffin   Mar-26-09 01:13 PM   #6 
     - Nutty and Ignorant Mega Religious KOOKS! Sanity Wins For One More Year! K&R!  DaLittle Kitty   Mar-26-09 06:47 PM   #78 
        - That makes it sound better than it was ...  Nihil   Mar-27-09 09:04 AM   #123 
  - Look for shenanigans during the new school board elections  benld74   Mar-26-09 01:11 PM   #2 
  - "...a blowing defeat...."  mike_c   Mar-26-09 01:11 PM   #3 
  - That one, er, caught my attention.  mikeytherat   Mar-27-09 06:52 AM   #116 
  - The vote never should have been this close, but sadly it doesn't surprise me. nt  atommom   Mar-26-09 01:12 PM   #4 
  - Excellent.  Bolo Boffin   Mar-26-09 01:12 PM   #5 
  - can't man AND dinosaur just get along?  happygoluckytoyou   Mar-26-09 01:23 PM   #7 
  - Dinosaurs = Jesus horses  Alhena   Mar-26-09 01:24 PM   #8 
  - I'm sure its possible  FarrenH   Mar-26-09 01:46 PM   #15 
     - I don't think they would peacefully coexist......  frebrd   Mar-26-09 02:13 PM   #20 
        - Imagine? Man size hooks with six-packs and chocolate bait being thrown up on shore?  Seldona   Mar-26-09 05:54 PM   #70 
           - I'm thinking of _Sherman's Lagoon_ That's the sort of thing  tblue37   Mar-26-09 11:04 PM   #100 
              - It's been done then? Of course.  Seldona   Mar-28-09 06:28 AM   #152 
  - Please, someone explain to me what it is about the theory of  acmavm   Mar-26-09 01:27 PM   #9 
  - I will tell you what the weakness is...  SkyDaddy7   Mar-26-09 01:37 PM   #11 
  - We can't be heard  TrogL   Mar-26-09 01:57 PM   #17 
  - now, now...  blackspade   Mar-26-09 01:58 PM   #18 
     - Absolutely !  jeff30997   Mar-26-09 10:21 PM   #95 
  - For religious people, it's an inconvenient truth.  Towlie   Mar-26-09 02:19 PM   #21 
  - No, its not. I am a firm believer. I have no problem with evolution.  acmavm   Mar-26-09 02:43 PM   #23 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-26-09 02:50 PM   #25 
  - Fundamentalist belief the Bible must be 100% litteraly accurate  One_Life_To_Give   Mar-26-09 03:33 PM   #31 
  - After thousands of politically motivated translations and edits it should be huh  bjobotts   Mar-26-09 07:10 PM   #86 
  - No reasoning with them  One_Life_To_Give   Mar-26-09 10:23 PM   #96 
  - That's the difference between the two--scientists don't say they are 100% accurate  marshall   Mar-28-09 10:36 AM   #154 
  - This is no different than when Christians killed people for not believing the earth was the ....  Jack from Charlotte   Mar-26-09 05:18 PM   #61 
  - I think once someone asked the Dali Lama  Johnny Noshoes   Mar-26-09 05:45 PM   #67 
  - It's the "and the evening and the morning were the first day" part that trips them up.  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:24 AM   #108 
  - In which Bible version is this conversation recorded and which Book, chapter and verse?  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:29 AM   #109 
  - It's Genesis  ladym55   Mar-27-09 12:07 PM   #133 
  - But I thought all of those people KNEW every type of dinosaur was on Noah's ark!  HopeHoops   Mar-26-09 01:33 PM   #10 
  - But they had to eat them all, leaving only the bones and that's why there  kiranon   Mar-26-09 04:09 PM   #32 
  - Just feeding the MAMMALS would have been impossible - and most would be herbivours.  HopeHoops   Mar-26-09 05:03 PM   #55 
  - But some animals were left behind.  Lionel Mandrake   Mar-27-09 12:45 AM   #104 
     - Unicorns...  14thColony   Mar-27-09 08:43 AM   #118 
     - That's only in the King James Version  Lionel Mandrake   Mar-27-09 11:35 AM   #131 
     - They were put on "Stand By"  kentauros   Mar-27-09 09:18 AM   #126 
        - Or, maybe this is what happened:  CaliforniaPeggy   Mar-27-09 11:27 AM   #129 
  - As long as they also teach the strengths and weaknesses of ID and creationism...  DetlefK   Mar-26-09 01:42 PM   #12 
  - There ARE no strengths to Infinite Dumbassery.  Zhade   Mar-26-09 02:52 PM   #26 
  - Bingo!  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:36 PM   #43 
  - The bigger problem is fobbing mythology off as science. n/t  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 05:01 PM   #52 
  - If they do what you suggest they run afoul of the Constitution.  DUlover2909   Mar-26-09 05:03 PM   #54 
  - No. Evolution is based in scientific evidence. ID and Creationism are based in belief.  Avalux   Mar-27-09 12:32 PM   #136 
  - Don't imagine this will halt the fundie nuts....  vinylsolution   Mar-26-09 01:43 PM   #13 
  - LOL, good one!  Jefferson23   Mar-26-09 06:39 PM   #77 
  - Did Jesus cuddle the cute little dinosaur before or after  Lionel Mandrake   Mar-27-09 12:54 AM   #105 
  - Round 1 win for Science  sonias   Mar-26-09 01:45 PM   #14 
  - Dammit! How many votes will there be? Thanks for this info.  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 05:03 PM   #53 
  - You can't point out the weaknesses of evolution  downindixie   Mar-26-09 05:16 PM   #59 
  - I get the same feedback from my sources....  AnneD   Mar-28-09 12:48 PM   #158 
  - Shouldn't they explain the strengths and weaknesses off all scientific theories? I don't get it?  newtothegame   Mar-26-09 01:48 PM   #16 
  - Nah, the weaknesses would be listed as science = bad, Gawd = good.  mbperrin   Mar-26-09 02:08 PM   #19 
  - The head of the SBOE in TX., McLeroy, is a blatant, two-faced liar.  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:57 PM   #51 
  - You want to know how science works? If a theory has a genuine weakness then it's abandoned.  Towlie   Mar-26-09 02:22 PM   #22 
  - A theory must be falsifiable. That is a huge flaw in intelligent design.  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:22 PM   #38 
  - No it isn't - that is not how science works at all.  whopis01   Mar-26-09 05:24 PM   #62 
  - Creationism isn't science. It's ALL weakness. It has zero evidence to support it.  Zhade   Mar-26-09 02:55 PM   #28 
  - Intelligent design is not science. It would be deceptive to teach it as such.  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:21 PM   #37 
  - The amendment wasn't about teaching intelligent design.  newtothegame   Mar-26-09 04:28 PM   #40 
  - It was the perfect back door for, and was being pushed heavily by, proponents of I.D.  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:33 PM   #42 
  - Read some of the transcripts from the hearings then tell me it wasn't about I.D.  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:38 PM   #44 
  - And besides, every theory IS strong until it is found, through the rigors of scientific  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:55 PM   #49 
  - Evolution is not a theory. It is scientific gravity. The origin of man is their problem  bjobotts   Mar-26-09 07:14 PM   #88 
  - "The theory of gravity sits there"  Fumesucker   Mar-27-09 05:10 AM   #107 
     - Yes you do  texastoast   Mar-27-09 12:11 PM   #134 
  - I have yet to see "weaknesses" that aren't debunked by science  Gator_Matt   Mar-26-09 05:04 PM   #57 
  - And that's what drives them nuts  14thColony   Mar-27-09 08:56 AM   #120 
  - The problem is that evolution is fact. They don't need a law mandating nonexistent weaknesses.  Towlie   Mar-26-09 05:18 PM   #60 
  - Technically, evolution is the theory; it's natural selection that is fact. n/t  BadgerKid   Mar-26-09 06:49 PM   #81 
     - Let me tell you a little story...  Towlie   Mar-26-09 07:29 PM   #93 
        - Well said Towlie  chknltl   Mar-26-09 10:49 PM   #98 
        - I appreciated your post.  BadgerKid   Mar-28-09 05:59 PM   #159 
  - If Texas schools discredit evolution, church and parents will do the rest.  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:37 AM   #110 
  - Chaos theory vs. Intelligent Design  marshall   Mar-29-09 08:31 AM   #160 
  - Better yet, let's ACCEPT Creationism in science classrooms  14thColony   Mar-27-09 08:51 AM   #119 
  - Thank goodness truth and sanity won out.  Zhade   Mar-26-09 02:48 PM   #24 
  - Thank Heavens some sanity won out... eom  hlthe2b   Mar-26-09 02:55 PM   #27 
  - This gives me hope for Texas.  Enthusiast   Mar-26-09 03:19 PM   #29 
  - Archaeopteryx is probably the most notable:  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:31 PM   #41 
  - Yes, exactly midpoint between  Enthusiast   Mar-27-09 06:08 AM   #115 
  - When the reality is  14thColony   Mar-27-09 09:00 AM   #121 
  - and on the fifth day, God buried dinosaur bones as a little joke.  FudaFuda   Mar-26-09 03:20 PM   #30 
  - that's OT. In NT, you can eat of the tree, as long as you count on Jesus to make your  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:45 AM   #111 
  - Why do these fundies go ape shit over evolution?  RedCloud   Mar-26-09 04:11 PM   #33 
  - The main issue, as far as I can tell, is sharing common ancestory with apes:  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:18 PM   #34 
  - What does Evolution do? Gives kids cool toys. I'm sorry but cool dinosaur toys...  Moonwalk   Mar-26-09 05:57 PM   #71 
  - What I get a kick out of is they never question why "Easter" is called "Easter"  dalaigh lllama   Mar-26-09 11:11 PM   #101 
  - Since the word Easter does not appear in the Bible, there is no issue. Christians  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:56 AM   #113 
     - I'd say "some Christians are well aware"  14thColony   Mar-27-09 09:09 AM   #124 
     - I'm speaking of the ones who haven't familiarized themselves with any historical background  dalaigh lllama   Mar-27-09 09:23 AM   #127 
  - There are a couple of reasons for fundamentalist evophobia.  Lionel Mandrake   Mar-27-09 01:25 AM   #106 
  - Fantastic! Thanks to everyone who signed the petition at Texas Freedom Network!  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:18 PM   #35 
  - I thought it was about teaching creationism  marshall   Mar-26-09 04:20 PM   #36 
  - Evolution is a falsifiable theory:  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:26 PM   #39 
  - The sun revolving around the Earth was NOT a theory. It was a bald, wrong assertion.  Zhade   Mar-26-09 06:28 PM   #75 
  - Geocentrism was a theory embraced by Ptolemy and Aristotle  marshall   Mar-27-09 10:06 AM   #128 
  - Heliocentricity was a (Bible-based) belief, not a theory  14thColony   Mar-27-09 09:13 AM   #125 
  - strengths and weaknesses  Deep13   Mar-26-09 04:41 PM   #45 
  - Those who believe that a creator started everything off would need  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 04:47 PM   #46 
  - Right, scientific ignorance does not mean god wins by default.  Deep13   Mar-26-09 04:56 PM   #50 
     - Quatum Physics is making statrling discoveries about reality. Amazing results about perception.  bjobotts   Mar-26-09 07:18 PM   #89 
        - Without a strong science education we would never have gotten to Quatum Physics  bjobotts   Mar-26-09 07:20 PM   #90 
           - Study the scientific facts wherever they take you wihout fear and superstition stopping you  bjobotts   Mar-26-09 07:21 PM   #91 
  - That is it in a nutshell.  tekisui   Mar-26-09 04:50 PM   #47 
  - You mean the World is over 6,000 years old and Jesus George Bush...  santamargarita   Mar-26-09 04:52 PM   #48 
  - No, the part of the Bible that talks about Dummya and the Dinosaurs IS fact. The .  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:50 AM   #112 
  - Whew! That was close! (Literally.... ;-> ) nt  tbyg52   Mar-26-09 05:04 PM   #56 
  - Science, you rock! nt  greyl   Mar-26-09 05:10 PM   #58 
  - Praise the Lord! Er, uh, I mean thank dog!  BikeWriter   Mar-26-09 05:25 PM   #63 
  - Facts verses Faith. Facts Win! n/t  Optical.Catalyst   Mar-26-09 05:28 PM   #64 
  - Facts tie...  krispos42   Mar-26-09 05:31 PM   #65 
  - Good to see that reality won out over fairy tales.  BrklynLiberal   Mar-26-09 05:32 PM   #66 
  - K&R  mvd   Mar-26-09 05:50 PM   #68 
  - "blowing defeat"??  Gman   Mar-26-09 05:52 PM   #69 
  - Let's try a thought experiment.  Johnny Noshoes   Mar-26-09 06:03 PM   #72 
  - Let's just say easter bunnies are falling from the sky so we should worship them.  TBF   Mar-26-09 06:48 PM   #79 
  - See my reply to Zhade.  Johnny Noshoes   Mar-27-09 07:39 PM   #150 
  - Still just a myth, dude.  Zhade   Mar-26-09 06:56 PM   #82 
  - Hey I agree with you  Johnny Noshoes   Mar-27-09 07:36 PM   #149 
     - Ahhhhh. Gotcha.  Zhade   Mar-29-09 04:36 PM   #162 
  - with no interventions by this said creator.  AlbertCat   Mar-26-09 07:12 PM   #87 
     - Like I've said ...  Johnny Noshoes   Mar-27-09 07:53 PM   #151 
        - Well you can try logic but I doubt you'll get far. The thing is they're not  TBF   Mar-28-09 08:54 AM   #153 
           - Yeah you're right.  Johnny Noshoes   Mar-28-09 11:04 AM   #155 
  - The real danger of a fundie win would have been the influence Texas has on the textbook industry.  FVZA_Colonel   Mar-26-09 06:10 PM   #73 
  - .  Occulus   Mar-26-09 11:56 PM   #103 
  - It's the size of the population  ladym55   Mar-27-09 12:17 PM   #135 
     - You should be nervous - I read that 1 in every 6 kids in the USA is Texan.  TBF   Mar-28-09 12:11 PM   #157 
  - How can the "Free Market Foundation" support creationists?  Big Time Patriot   Mar-26-09 06:22 PM   #74 
  - Read this about the chairman of the TX State BOE- Unbelievable!  callous taoboy   Mar-26-09 06:34 PM   #76 
  - I'm a theistic humanist..  ananda   Mar-26-09 06:48 PM   #80 
  - It is shocking it was even up for discussion.  Mr. Sparkle   Mar-26-09 07:01 PM   #83 
  - would mandate teachers explain the strengths and weaknesses of the theory of evolution  AlbertCat   Mar-26-09 07:04 PM   #84 
  - In Texas, the GOP is highly organized and supremely motivated at a 'grass roots' level.  BobTheSubgenius   Mar-26-09 07:05 PM   #85 
  - Really motivated to keep ignorance on top so they can justify positions of authority  bjobotts   Mar-26-09 07:25 PM   #92 
  - What happens in classrooms is another matter altogether.  burning rain   Mar-26-09 09:10 PM   #94 
  - Muerte al Sur!  sasquatch   Mar-26-09 10:23 PM   #97 
  - "The Texas Freedom Network" Good choice.  L. Coyote   Mar-26-09 10:57 PM   #99 
  - A blow to the cult of the flying spaghetti monster!  AllenVanAllen   Mar-26-09 11:43 PM   #102 
  - 7-7 vote this year. Wonder what it will be next year?  No Elephants   Mar-27-09 05:59 AM   #114 
  - As I understand it this type of review of science standards happens only  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 09:02 AM   #122 
  - Not so sure.  ananda   Mar-27-09 08:04 AM   #117 
  - What do you mean?  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 11:30 AM   #130 
  - What a shitty way to phrase it!  Threedifferentones   Mar-27-09 11:55 AM   #132 
  - And a shitty smear of scientists and science teachers with the "awful" liberal / progressive tag:  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 01:31 PM   #142 
  - ****UPDATE TO STORY**** Ed board compromises on science debate  Lone_Star_Dem   Mar-27-09 12:40 PM   #137 
  - There are no alternatives to evolution based on science.  Avalux   Mar-27-09 12:46 PM   #138 
     - Reread the compromise  Lone_Star_Dem   Mar-27-09 01:07 PM   #140 
        - I believe that the fundies pushing for this must have been hearing  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 01:34 PM   #143 
        - This will be interpreted in various ways.  Lionel Mandrake   Mar-27-09 04:44 PM   #145 
           - I'm afraid you make good points. Texas Freedom Network is concerned.  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 06:16 PM   #146 
              - And rightly so.  Lionel Mandrake   Mar-27-09 07:16 PM   #147 
  - As long as they keep I.D. out of the science curriculum, then I'm o.k. with this.  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 01:00 PM   #139 
  - That's how I read it as well.  Lone_Star_Dem   Mar-27-09 01:09 PM   #141 
  - And as long as I'm not burned at the stake for uttering "evolution" to my science class.  callous taoboy   Mar-27-09 01:35 PM   #144 
  - wtf?  liberal1973   Mar-27-09 07:35 PM   #148 
  - Magic will never be a part of my science classroom. eom  callous taoboy   Mar-28-09 11:51 AM   #156 
  - Denying/irnoring what hard, emperical evidence shows is just ignorance  and-justice-for-all   Mar-29-09 02:57 PM   #161 

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