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Reply #40: Venezuela also handcounts a whopping 55% of the ballots as a check on machine fraud. [View All]

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40. Venezuela also handcounts a whopping 55% of the ballots as a check on machine fraud.
Edited on Wed Mar-25-09 09:13 AM by Peace Patriot
I'll bet the CIA doesn't know how much WE handcount.

Answer: ZERO PERCENT in half the systems in the U.S., and an extremely inadequate 1% in the rest.

Or maybe they do. And we're just another one of their fucking destabilization/install dictator projects. Hm, CIA? Which is it, you fuckers? Don't know? Did know?

Venezuela not only uses OPEN SOURCE code--code that belongs to the public and that anyone may review; they not only have a paper ballot for every vote and count FIVE TIMES the minimum amount needed to verify results; they not only ban political advertising in the week before the election and other "best election practices"; they also have thousands of international election monitors from the Carter Center, the OAS, the EU, and other groups, including U.S. groups like the NAACP, crawling all over Venezuela during every election at the invitation of the Chavez government.

So I guess this news is getting around, eh? That Venezuela has honest, aboveboard, transparent elections and we don't. So, they call up the "Mission Impossible" team--and, now that the Bush Junta has hijacked the U.S. military for corporate resource wars, and looted us of trillions of dollars--have to figure out a way to keep more of our people from finding out the truth about Venezuelan vs U.S. elections. It doesn't matter now here--the damage is done. But it does matter in Venezuela, where the oil is being used to bootstrap the poor and not to stuff the pockets of Exxon Mobil executives and boost their power as a global corporate monster.

This is an INFURIATING lie!!! And it is also ominous and dangerous. WHY would they do this? WHY? --if they are NOT planning a war on Venezuela, one of the best democracies in the western hemisphere?

I have often expressed my concern about this here at DU, in view of the relentless psyops, disinformation and propaganda in all the corpo/fascist media here about Chavez and Venezuela--which appears to me to be pre-war preparation--just like the lies about WMDs in Iraq were--combined with other evidence from South America, for instance, strong evidence of a Bushwhack war plan to create fascist, secessionist states, in control of the oil, in Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador, with the Bolivian plot having unfolded this last September in fascist rioting and murder, funded/organized right out of the U.S. embassy, and the effort earlier in 2008 to draw Ecuador and Venezuela into a war with Colombia (U.S./Colombia bombing/raid on Ecuador's territory, in March 2008), orchestrated from the "war room" at the U.S. embassy in Bogota.

The lies are getting MORE, not less, intense, with Obama in office. Even Obama has been telling these lies--and took time off during his inauguration week to give an interview to a rightwing 'news' monopoly in South America (Univision) accusing Chavez of "exporting terrorism" and being "a hindrance to the progress of the region." So, maybe these lies were not a blunder, with a Bushwhack holdover handing Obama the script? That's what I initially thought. Maybe we are seeing the price Obama had to pay, to be permitted to win the election: Rumsfeld & brethren can't have Iran's oil, but can go after Venezuela's, and Obama will wink at this private Exxon Mobil war? Is that it?

This CIA bullshit about Venezuela's elections may be a clarifying. I wasn't sure about Obama's Latin American policy--it has been very wobbly. But now that he has his man at the CIA (or his man has him in the White House?), and the CIA is spouting bullshit like this, I can only presume that Obama is not being led astray, but is part of the civil war game being played in South America. I've given Obama every benefit of the doubt. His hands have been full, for sure, with the Bushwhack Financial 9/11, and two Bushwhack wars. But maybe South America has not been on the "back burner" as I thought. Maybe it has been front and center all along as the alternative to nuking Iran. And maybe Exxon Mobil is still running our government.
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  Most electronic voting isn't secure, CIA expert says kpete  Mar-24-09 09:13 PM   #0 
   Oh fer fucks sake, this is them following US  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-24-09 09:15 PM   #1 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-25-09 02:15 AM   #28 
   The real question is, has the FBI figured this out yet?  napoleon_in_rags   Mar-25-09 04:23 AM   #34 
   No hard copy == no security. Duh. nt  bemildred   Mar-24-09 09:15 PM   #2 
   This is bullshit. Venezuela does have hard copy.  EFerrari   Mar-24-09 09:43 PM   #9 
      They do think we're idiots. nt  bemildred   Mar-24-09 09:45 PM   #11 
      In order to believe this story, you have to know nothing about 2004 here,  EFerrari   Mar-24-09 11:03 PM   #20 
      Well, I don't believe this story.  bemildred   Mar-24-09 11:14 PM   #21 
         Electronic voting needs to go NOW.  EFerrari   Mar-24-09 11:24 PM   #22 
      Yes, in fact, they do  tavalon   Mar-25-09 12:56 AM   #26 
      Venezuela also handcounts a whopping 55% of the ballots as a check on machine fraud.  Peace Patriot   Mar-25-09 09:09 AM   #40 
         This story was timed to come out while Leopoldo Lopez  EFerrari   Mar-25-09 09:39 AM   #42 
         Ah, My Friend, Democracy IS Terrorism  Demeter   Mar-25-09 09:54 AM   #43 
   Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" award  rocktivity   Mar-24-09 09:23 PM   #3 
   No shit, Sherlock.  VenusRising   Mar-24-09 09:28 PM   #4 
   LOL  EFerrari   Mar-24-09 09:34 PM   #5 
   wow what is next? Dark @ night studies  Botany   Mar-24-09 09:36 PM   #6 
   I'm shocked! Shocked!  Kablooie   Mar-24-09 09:38 PM   #7 
   One Could Ask If the CIA Had Anything to Do With Election-Tampering at Home  Demeter   Mar-24-09 09:43 PM   #8 
   No! This boy scout came out of the shadows to tell you  EFerrari   Mar-24-09 09:55 PM   #13 
   Karl Rove already knows that  santamargarita   Mar-24-09 09:45 PM   #10 
   The CIA  Magleetis   Mar-24-09 09:52 PM   #12 
   K&R!  KoKo   Mar-24-09 10:03 PM   #14 
   Interesting thing about this Election Commission the guy testified to:  dixiegrrrrl   Mar-24-09 10:08 PM   #15 
   Listen to the spooks; they speak from experience... n/t  Xipe Totec   Mar-24-09 10:28 PM   #16 
   I'm so happy CIA is trying to secure elections in VENEZUELA!  EFerrari   Mar-24-09 10:44 PM   #19 
      We should all feel relieved that the CIA worries about rigged elections  Xipe Totec   Mar-25-09 11:22 PM   #45 
   Oh fucking A  lonestarnot   Mar-24-09 10:34 PM   #17 
   Bunch of backward clueless fucks ...the warnings have been out for at least 8 years.  L0oniX   Mar-24-09 10:36 PM   #18 
   Yup. All the wise ones, like Valerie Plame, have been blown out  Amonester   Mar-25-09 12:09 AM   #23 
   Here you go...  Captain Hilts   Mar-25-09 12:17 AM   #24 
   What a genious!  Norquist Nemesis   Mar-25-09 12:46 AM   #25 
   FFS  Norrin Radd   Mar-25-09 02:02 AM   #27 
   This would NEVER happen in the USA.  chollybocker   Mar-25-09 02:17 AM   #29 
   Fuck we've known this & have been screaming about it for years now...Still no action from the Dems  LaPera   Mar-25-09 02:30 AM   #30 
   This is like where Bush and Cheney accuse Kerry of faking his military record.  bottomtheweaver   Mar-25-09 02:49 AM   #31 
   Isn't it? These people are seriously out of touch  EFerrari   Mar-25-09 02:56 AM   #32 
   Traceable paper ballots!  GreenTea   Mar-25-09 03:10 AM   #33 
   I sometimes think that to get rid of this plague, every single human being will have to separately  Stevepol   Mar-25-09 04:37 AM   #35 
   Yeah, after CIA probably helped BushCo steal two elections, it's time to come clean I guess. n/t  antimatter98   Mar-25-09 05:48 AM   #36 
   Some people just can't resist bragging about how good of a job they do  Optical.Catalyst   Mar-25-09 06:39 AM   #38 
      In foreign countries where they want to overthrow the government.  EFerrari   Mar-25-09 09:19 AM   #41 
   This is news?  DFW   Mar-25-09 06:04 AM   #37 
   Let's see: during the Bush/Cheney years, neo-fascist globalists have "won" elections in  Kip Humphrey   Mar-25-09 07:36 AM   #39 
   Brad Blogs exclusive LBN  bluesmail   Mar-25-09 06:32 PM   #44 
 

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