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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 03:28 PM
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60. They are still selling Credit Default Swaps?
And for the same toxic assets that ruined everything? But, but, but, doesn't that just start the cycle again?

"All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again."

Bring on the Cylons.
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