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53. The laws in CT allowed a Chimp 50 pound or less to be kept as a pet, owner had permit
From Hartford Courant:

Twenty states forbid keeping great apes as pets. But not Connecticut. Here, residents need only a permit to keep a primate of more than 50 pounds.

There's no reason for any hedge in state policy. Primates are not pets, and allowing permits for this private ownership of primates is irresponsible. We join with Attorney General Richard Blumenthal in calling for immediate action by the General Assembly and the state Department of Environmental Protection to correct the loopholes in the law.

The federal government also bears a good deal of culpability here. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service could have spared everyone had it listed all chimps as endangered 20 years ago, as it should have. It instead carved a loophole in the law, allowing chimps to be kept as pets, as well as be used in roadside zoos and circuses and in biomedical research. The government came up with a convoluted "split listing" of the species designating the wild populations as endangered, but the captive populations as merely threatened.

This less stringent designation, coupled with lax regulations, was an important factor behind Monday's tragedy. If the federal government had not caved in to lobbying pressure from special interests wanting to use chimps, no private citizen in America could have legally possessed a chimp as a pet.

Congress had a chance to address this problem last year and blew it. By a vote of 302 to 96, the House passed the Captive Primate Safety Act to ban the interstate transport of primates for the pet trade.

In the Senate, however, the much-needed law was blocked by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla. Had it not been for him, the pet trade in these dangerous animals would be drying up.http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-pacel...



Thank Coburn and my lovely state.

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  -Chimp Victim May Be Brain Damaged Louis-Emmanuel  Mar-04-09 08:47 PM   #0 
  - Should pet owners be responsible for the actions of their pets?  ZombieHorde   Mar-04-09 08:51 PM   #1 
  - YES... eom  alexandria   Mar-04-09 08:54 PM   #3 
  - most definitely - and I'm a pet owner n/t  Donnachaidh   Mar-04-09 09:22 PM   #5 
  - Reply to Should pet owners be responsible for the actions of their pets?  StaffWriter   Mar-04-09 09:27 PM   #6 
  - YES!  AyanEva   Mar-04-09 09:42 PM   #10 
  - That depends on the case.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-04-09 10:32 PM   #14 
  - That was a bite not a mauling and attempted murder. nt.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 12:20 AM   #25 
     - Perhaps you didn't read the question to which I responded.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-05-09 10:10 AM   #44 
        - Apologies, it was a comment not a criticism.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 10:25 PM   #65 
           - No worries, I thought you might have replied to the wrong post.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-05-09 10:49 PM   #68 
  - You Better Believe It.  tonysam   Mar-04-09 10:38 PM   #15 
  - Especially when the pet is something as exotic and dangerous as a Chimp  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 12:03 AM   #21 
  - Generally yes  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Mar-05-09 12:04 AM   #22 
  - Trouble is, monkeys are wild animals, never intended to be pets.  No Elephants   Mar-05-09 02:19 AM   #30 
  - Definitely  fujiyama   Mar-05-09 06:16 AM   #33 
  - He wasn't a pet. He was a working actor.  Xenotime   Mar-05-09 03:03 PM   #55 
  - He was mostly a pet - yeah he had a couple of acting gigs  RamboLiberal   Mar-05-09 07:21 PM   #59 
  - Yes, and gun owners should be held responsible for the damage their guns do too.  superconnected   Mar-05-09 07:32 PM   #61 
  - Interesting, I may have to make a poll later on. nt  ZombieHorde   Mar-05-09 07:59 PM   #62 
  - In law school they taught us the "one free bite" rule  Bake   Mar-06-09 10:02 AM   #72 
  - This is so horrendously sad...  hlthe2b   Mar-04-09 08:53 PM   #2 
  - Exactly - I feel sorry for her 17 year old daughter  RamboLiberal   Mar-04-09 10:43 PM   #16 
  - Perhaps we ought to simply look at chimps as how they are  depakid   Mar-05-09 12:57 AM   #28 
     - god fuckin' damn i wish i didn't read that feral child story  Blue_Tires   Mar-05-09 08:53 AM   #36 
     - Raising a chimp in a human setting does much the same thing  depakid   Mar-05-09 10:12 AM   #45 
     - not stab something...  pfitz59   Mar-05-09 11:56 PM   #70 
     - "Like their nearest relatives."  ZombieHorde   Mar-05-09 07:11 PM   #58 
  - I have to agree. If I were one of her loved ones, I would wonder if I would  BrklynLiberal   Mar-04-09 10:46 PM   #17 
  - This thread is a metaphor for our times.  Jim Sagle   Mar-04-09 09:20 PM   #4 
  - I understand you. I won't go there any further.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 12:05 AM   #23 
  - A Tragedy All The Way Around  pmorlan1   Mar-04-09 09:32 PM   #7 
  - This is so terrible. WHO in their right mind would EVER keep a chimp  EFerrari   Mar-04-09 09:33 PM   #8 
  - In the owner's favor I'll say: the chimp was 99 percent civilized.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 12:17 AM   #24 
     - That's far more than the owner then.  Nihil   Mar-05-09 08:44 AM   #34 
        - Maybe because I see domestication as one of the only ways to prevent chimp extinction.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 09:41 AM   #39 
           - Chimps cannot be domesticated.  Marrah_G   Mar-05-09 09:50 AM   #41 
              - Not in the present day, obviously-- I'm talking about in the far future.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 09:08 PM   #63 
  - That poor woman!  DavidDvorkin   Mar-04-09 09:40 PM   #9 
  - Terrible, just terrible.  TheCowsCameHome   Mar-04-09 09:45 PM   #11 
  - Yeah, she and 359,999 others.  sofa king   Mar-04-09 10:17 PM   #12 
  - There was a 2005 attack on California man who owned a chimp. He was attacked by several other  4lbs   Mar-04-09 10:28 PM   #13 
  - You forgot one other body party  Brooklyns_Finest   Mar-04-09 11:58 PM   #20 
  - This poor woman! Horrible. n/t  firedupdem   Mar-04-09 11:01 PM   #18 
  - Better to die than to live like that.  MrSlayer   Mar-04-09 11:03 PM   #19 
  - Horrible, so horrible, but I expected her injuries to be horrendous.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 12:32 AM   #26 
  - Story mentions they are keeping her in medically induced coma n/t  RamboLiberal   Mar-05-09 07:22 PM   #60 
  - Merciful and wise, I'd call them. nt  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 09:12 PM   #64 
  - .  AyanEva   Mar-05-09 10:28 PM   #66 
  - wow. That was some angry monkey!  Liberal_in_LA   Mar-05-09 12:34 AM   #27 
  - Mercy  LittleGirl   Mar-05-09 01:56 AM   #29 
  - This is so sad  Politicalboi   Mar-05-09 03:26 AM   #31 
  - Chimps are classified by zoo societies as Class 1 animals....  Aviation Pro   Mar-05-09 05:41 AM   #32 
  - And of those animals I would say they are the most dangerous  Marrah_G   Mar-05-09 09:52 AM   #42 
  - And of the lot, the chimp is probably the most vicious.  BreweryYardRat   Mar-05-09 01:10 PM   #49 
     - They are eight times as dense as a man....  Aviation Pro   Mar-05-09 03:02 PM   #54 
  - very sad...  Blue_Tires   Mar-05-09 08:51 AM   #35 
  - .  AyanEva   Mar-05-09 09:09 AM   #37 
  - They eat the face fingers toes and genitals first as a way to disarm their prey  Marrah_G   Mar-05-09 09:54 AM   #43 
     - *cringes*  AyanEva   Mar-05-09 10:27 AM   #48 
  - Veterinarian on Chimps as Pets  Bryn   Mar-05-09 09:38 AM   #38 
  - I'm not so sure an aggressive chimp is mentally disturbed  AngryAmish   Mar-05-09 10:21 AM   #47 
     - I agree with you  Bryn   Mar-05-09 01:22 PM   #50 
  - Poor Uncle Sam  DS1   Mar-05-09 09:45 AM   #40 
  - If I were the victim I would rather die than wake up to that nightmare  dugaresa   Mar-05-09 10:14 AM   #46 
  - did the owner have a permit to own a chimp?  fascisthunter   Mar-05-09 01:46 PM   #51 
  - The laws in CT allowed a Chimp 50 pound or less to be kept as a pet, owner had permit  Jennicut   Mar-05-09 02:00 PM   #53 
  - Godspeed to her. I didn't realize her injuries were that horrific.  Midlodemocrat   Mar-05-09 01:51 PM   #52 
  - Poor woman  Raine   Mar-05-09 05:56 PM   #56 
  - I thought Margie Schoedinger was killed by the chimp...  cascadiance   Mar-05-09 05:57 PM   #57 
  - No, she wasn't killed. Just maimed beyond belief, and maybe brain-damaged.  caseymoz   Mar-05-09 10:36 PM   #67 
     - Sorry, I guess my attempt at a joke was a little too obtuse...  cascadiance   Mar-05-09 10:54 PM   #69 
  - If I were in her position I would hope that I were so brain damaged I didnt know what was going on..  Jack_DeLeon   Mar-06-09 04:40 AM   #71 
  - Actually, she has to be brain damaged.  caseymoz   Mar-06-09 10:14 PM   #73 
  - Dod bush the lesser bite another victim? (n/t)  ProudDad   Mar-07-09 12:17 AM   #74 
  - It should definitely be illegal to keep a chimp as a pet.  KillCapitalism   Mar-07-09 12:54 AM   #75 
 

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