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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:03 PM
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19. oops
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 02:04 PM by florida08
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  -N.Y. Post defends cartoon linking Obama stimulus to dead chimp newtothegame  Feb-18-09 01:14 PM   #0 
  - A rabid chimp? Aren't they mixing their presidents up?  LeftishBrit   Feb-18-09 01:16 PM   #1 
  - I just don't get the joke  guitarrista   Feb-18-09 01:22 PM   #2 
  - I think the point the cartoonist was attempting to make is that both are examples of -  dustbunnie   Feb-18-09 01:46 PM   #12 
  - A lot of people think blacks look like apes - or chimps. It's completely racist.  superconnected   Feb-18-09 03:41 PM   #35 
     - And yet Dubya is white  treestar   Feb-19-09 03:25 PM   #109 
  - My take = NY Post was delighted to get criticism from Sharpton.  VaYallaDawg   Feb-18-09 01:24 PM   #3 
  - It was trite and banal  Seeking Serenity   Feb-18-09 01:29 PM   #5 
     - We're on the same page. I didn't see any ref. to Obama  VaYallaDawg   Feb-18-09 02:47 PM   #29 
     - But the cartoon did not say that a dead chimp means "they" are going to have to  No Elephants   Feb-20-09 10:04 AM   #113 
     - It was the President's stimulus bill. Congress made some changes to it, but the bill  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:38 AM   #64 
  - just because Sharpton is a sensationalist doesn't mean he's wrong in this instance  THUNDER HANDS   Feb-18-09 01:26 PM   #4 
  - Exactly. Al is right, no matter if one likes his style or not.  EFerrari   Feb-18-09 01:31 PM   #6 
  - just because Sharpton is a sensationalist doesn't mean he's wrong in this instance  DrDeke   Feb-18-09 01:51 PM   #15 
  - The Stimulus Bill is written  Theobald   Feb-18-09 01:33 PM   #7 
  - The bill was proposed by Obama  Tempest   Feb-18-09 03:13 PM   #32 
  - WEVE BEEN CALLING BUSH A CHIMP FOR 8 YEARS... grow a spine ! !!  happygoluckytoyou   Feb-18-09 01:39 PM   #8 
  - Agreed.  newtothegame   Feb-18-09 01:42 PM   #10 
  - Sharpton  marksmithfield   Feb-19-09 06:01 AM   #60 
  - Racism still means what it has always meant.  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:43 AM   #67 
  - so that was racist also?  biopowertoday   Feb-18-09 01:47 PM   #13 
  - My logic is running toward dead black chimp = dead black president.  rocktivity   Feb-18-09 04:57 PM   #39 
  - All humans resemble chimps to a degree  slackmaster   Feb-19-09 01:09 PM   #91 
  - bush was called a chimp  THUNDER HANDS   Feb-18-09 01:50 PM   #14 
  - According to who though? You?  newtothegame   Feb-18-09 02:01 PM   #17 
  - um...yeah  THUNDER HANDS   Feb-18-09 02:33 PM   #26 
  - Don't doubt the history...  newtothegame   Feb-18-09 02:36 PM   #27 
     - Then learn something about the iconography of slavery in America  wickerwoman   Feb-18-09 05:10 PM   #40 
     - Spanish soccer fans making monkey gestures at a black player  wickerwoman   Feb-18-09 05:18 PM   #42 
     - Yes but your post can't be referring to the political cartoon...  newtothegame   Feb-18-09 06:15 PM   #47 
        - You're so right - it wasn't racist at all!  devilgrrl   Feb-18-09 10:07 PM   #52 
        - The point of political satire is that things are assumed, not said.  wickerwoman   Feb-19-09 01:57 AM   #58 
        - When you draw an African American as a simian, you don't need to spell anything else out. It's  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:36 AM   #63 
        - Show me the African-American drawn as a simian.  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 12:50 PM   #83 
           - Desperation? You're an embarrassment to your avatar!  devilgrrl   Feb-19-09 12:58 PM   #86 
           - MLK spoke for justice...not desperately trying to play "gotcha" games.  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 01:00 PM   #87 
           - You're a racial arsonist - end of story!  devilgrrl   Feb-19-09 01:19 PM   #95 
           - In fact, I think MLK would be rolling in his grave that this is the stuff...  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 01:08 PM   #90 
           - And you can speak for how a man who died decades ago would react to this thread?  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 01:31 PM   #98 
           - Sorry sister, this is one black man that doesn't think that everyone is out to get him at all times.  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 01:31 PM   #99 
              - Whatever you say Mr. Christie.  devilgrrl   Feb-19-09 01:38 PM   #102 
           - P.S. Please see Post ##'s 96, 97 and 18.  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 01:34 PM   #100 
        - As is...  LanternWaste   Feb-19-09 01:05 PM   #88 
     - If you are unfamiliar with historic and current portrayals of African  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:50 AM   #69 
        - Show me the African-American drawn as a simian.  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 12:53 PM   #85 
           - Who was the architect of the bill? Who signed it?  LanternWaste   Feb-19-09 01:07 PM   #89 
           - Please see Post # 96. And then see Post # 18. BTW, what exactly is  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 01:28 PM   #97 
           - If the monkey is the stimulus bill the caption doesn't make any sense.  wickerwoman   Feb-19-09 04:48 PM   #111 
  - Not just him  NeoConsSuck   Feb-18-09 08:16 PM   #49 
     - Forget it, he's hopeless.  devilgrrl   Feb-18-09 10:10 PM   #53 
     - One issue with Roland's story. He says if bush* were the president  fob   Feb-19-09 11:31 AM   #62 
  - Exactly. Thank you.  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:45 AM   #68 
  - You're saying that both men are compared to chimps because of physical traits  slackmaster   Feb-19-09 01:10 PM   #92 
  - It's generally not a good idea to compare a black man to a monkey...  BklnDem75   Feb-18-09 02:01 PM   #18 
  - I'm offended by the pic of a dead chimp with two bullet holes.  Faygo Kid   Feb-18-09 02:05 PM   #21 
  - I'll have "Context" for $20, Alex. n/t  EFerrari   Feb-18-09 05:21 PM   #44 
  - Um, b*s* isn't a black man. Calling AAs "monkeys" is a long-standing racist epithet.  Zhade   Feb-18-09 06:48 PM   #48 
  - How many newspapers printed bush being shot? nt  conspirator   Feb-19-09 04:03 AM   #59 
  - The shot is not the issue. The problem is depicting the President, who was the source of the  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:56 AM   #71 
  - Bush was called a chimp for the way that he behaved, not because of the color  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:42 AM   #65 
  - But that's because he looks like one and has the mentality of one  treestar   Feb-19-09 03:24 PM   #108 
  - The cartoonist clearly links a dead chimp to Obama.  cornermouse   Feb-18-09 01:41 PM   #9 
  - I agree  NeoConsSuck   Feb-18-09 03:59 PM   #37 
     - I agree as well ~ I'll never pick up that paper again in life  goclark   Feb-19-09 01:46 PM   #103 
  - This is racist. 100%  Taverner   Feb-18-09 01:46 PM   #11 
  - Hairy, thin-lipped, Caucasian primates. Angry at their own simian  Joe Chi Minh   Feb-18-09 02:36 PM   #28 
     - Racism against Caucasians is your response to racism against African Americans?  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 11:59 AM   #73 
        - Only if you're dumb enough to vilify the way God made every one of us.  Joe Chi Minh   Feb-19-09 03:47 PM   #110 
           - No, I had no choice Then again, I'm not the one who posted "Hairy, thin-lipped, Caucasian primates.  No Elephants   Feb-20-09 10:09 AM   #114 
  - Judge by the reputation of the source  Xipe Totec   Feb-18-09 01:55 PM   #16 
  - oops  florida08   Feb-18-09 02:03 PM   #19 
  - ponder this  florida08   Feb-18-09 02:05 PM   #20 
  - Credible cartoonists caption their symbolic caricatures to ensure the public gets it...  Spazito   Feb-18-09 02:11 PM   #22 
  - this creep  florida08   Feb-18-09 02:18 PM   #23 
  - Except the White House was the source of the bill. Congress tinkered with it, but it originated  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 12:01 PM   #74 
  - I thought cartoons were supposed to be funny.  TEXASYANKEE   Feb-18-09 02:28 PM   #24 
  - Cue complaints of "Stalinist Political Correctness"  Dogmudgeon   Feb-18-09 02:31 PM   #25 
  - I'm shocked  The Wizard   Feb-18-09 02:49 PM   #30 
  - I really resent all the dumping on Al Sharpton by Dems. There is nothing  peacetalksforall   Feb-18-09 02:56 PM   #31 
  - + 1 n/t  Earth Bound Misfit   Feb-18-09 03:40 PM   #34 
  - I'm with you. Al is nearly the first one to speak out  EFerrari   Feb-18-09 05:20 PM   #43 
  - Sean Delonas is a homophobic, racist SCUMBAG  Earth Bound Misfit   Feb-18-09 03:39 PM   #33 
  - Defending the indefensable....a Republican speciaity  CanonRay   Feb-18-09 03:56 PM   #36 
  - Oh come now! You're just being over-sensitive!  devilgrrl   Feb-18-09 10:13 PM   #54 
  - Looks racist to me.....  AnneD   Feb-18-09 04:31 PM   #38 
  - 1st Amend right. n/t  kirby   Feb-18-09 05:17 PM   #41 
  - A racist cartoon may protected by the First Amendment, but the First Amendment does  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 12:07 PM   #75 
  - It's not funny  Raine   Feb-18-09 05:30 PM   #45 
  - If you have to explain a joke, then it's not a very good one  daleo   Feb-18-09 05:30 PM   #46 
  - It is perfectly accurate that a chimp was recently in the news. That does  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 12:10 PM   #76 
  - I do understand that was the cartoonists intent... BUT  JerseygirlCT   Feb-18-09 08:28 PM   #50 
  - How News Corp hasn't ended up on SPLC's Hate Group List  Best_man23   Feb-18-09 09:53 PM   #51 
  - Wait. You don't know what to think except that Sharpton is a "sensationalist"?  The Stranger   Feb-18-09 10:40 PM   #55 
  - Exactly.  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 12:20 PM   #78 
  - Hmmm. Well, considering President Obama is black,  cboy4   Feb-19-09 01:41 AM   #56 
  - Well said. n/t  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 10:58 AM   #61 
  - I'm wondering just what game it is that you are new to.  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 12:22 PM   #79 
  - Thanks....I think the people who are shitting on what I wrote  cboy4   Feb-19-09 12:46 PM   #82 
  - Please see Post # 18. You cannot take race out of it. It that is the standard, then  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 12:17 PM   #77 
     - Of course it's clever.  cboy4   Feb-19-09 12:43 PM   #81 
     - From this thread, it appears that your knee jerk reaction to any disagreement is to go  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 01:12 PM   #93 
        - Look way up in the sky No Elephants  cboy4   Feb-19-09 01:36 PM   #101 
           - Thanks for helping me proving my point, but you did not need to. Your other posts already have.  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 02:26 PM   #105 
              - Zooooooooom  cboy4   Feb-19-09 03:17 PM   #107 
     - Show me the African-American drawn as a simian.  newtothegame   Feb-19-09 12:51 PM   #84 
        - Here is the cartoon as provided by the Post to  No Elephants   Feb-19-09 01:20 PM   #96 
  - You're not sure about linking Obama, the first African-American President, to a dead monkey?  w4rma   Feb-19-09 01:53 AM   #57 
  - Sorry I didn't post this in nothing but kindergarten  cboy4   Feb-19-09 12:40 PM   #80 
     - You said you aren't sure what to make of this, but the logic is obvious. Even for kindergardeners.nt  w4rma   Feb-19-09 05:44 PM   #112 
  - Chimps aren't monkeys, they are APES.  Runcible Spoon   Feb-19-09 11:42 AM   #66 
  - well, that certainly improves the meaning of this cartoon.  kwassa   Feb-19-09 11:54 AM   #70 
     - Of course it doesn't, wasn't my point.  Runcible Spoon   Feb-19-09 11:57 AM   #72 
  - Al himself said he's an activist and his job is to draw attention to a problem  nc4bo   Feb-19-09 01:19 PM   #94 
  - No fucking excuses. None. Portraying an African person as a monkey is racist. Period.  Redstone   Feb-19-09 01:56 PM   #104 
  - If the punchline had said  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Feb-19-09 02:53 PM   #106 
     - Specifically, what does the AUTHOR of the stimulus bill, commonly  No Elephants   Feb-20-09 10:15 AM   #115 

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