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139. "And crawling on the planets face, some insects called the human race.
"Lost in time, and lost in space...

"And meaning."


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  -Galaxy has 'billions of Earths' Turborama  Feb-15-09 08:43 PM   #0 
  - On its own, that fact doesn't get you anywhere....  BlooInBloo   Feb-15-09 08:46 PM   #1 
  - I just thought this story might generate an interesting debate n/t  Turborama   Feb-15-09 08:59 PM   #10 
  - I love this story. Thank you. What an arrogant little dipshit people  roguevalley   Feb-16-09 12:17 AM   #55 
  - K &R. Very interesting and I'm glad you posted it.  ihavenobias   Feb-16-09 02:18 PM   #132 
  - 100 billion, 1 billion, 1/2 billion? What's the difference?  MindMatter   Feb-15-09 09:00 PM   #11 
  - (facepalm)  BlooInBloo   Feb-15-09 09:01 PM   #12 
  - I'm not following you  MindMatter   Feb-15-09 09:11 PM   #15 
     - Bloo is saying what Bloo always says ....  Trajan   Feb-15-09 11:47 PM   #52 
     - Me too, Trajan. I follow the (alleged) Magellan Logic...  onager   Feb-18-09 01:59 AM   #174 
     - Fascinating sig line.  byronius   Feb-16-09 03:42 AM   #72 
        - I guess I need to update it because Blackwater is changing their name. I wnder  MindMatter   Feb-16-09 11:29 AM   #121 
  - Agree.  tabatha   Feb-15-09 09:10 PM   #14 
  - I can't make heads or tails of that comment  Autonomy   Feb-15-09 09:16 PM   #16 
  - It's ok.  BlooInBloo   Feb-15-09 09:19 PM   #20 
  - whew  Autonomy   Feb-15-09 09:21 PM   #22 
  - Moral:  Twillig   Feb-15-09 09:39 PM   #27 
  - Me too. It gets de-railed somewhere around whatever "1/trillions" means.  patrice   Feb-15-09 09:52 PM   #33 
  - See post #52.  jhrobbins   Feb-16-09 09:23 AM   #107 
  - Imagine a coin that 'always' lands tails...  psychopomp   Feb-16-09 09:41 AM   #112 
  - huh?? what is the "just one" thing?  trekbiker   Feb-15-09 09:54 PM   #35 
  - the people making these predictions know a hell of a lot more than just two things  Schema Thing   Feb-15-09 09:59 PM   #40 
  - Do you mean there are 100 Billion Dubyas out there?  TheEuclideanOne   Feb-16-09 12:50 AM   #63 
  - There actually is a quite serious theory in astrophysics and cosmology  endarkenment   Feb-16-09 10:10 AM   #116 
  - You are right about that. We're stuck here on this planet. For now, at least.  Quantess   Feb-16-09 12:56 AM   #65 
  - I suppose you mean, "there's no way to know."  NinetySix   Feb-16-09 08:53 AM   #99 
  - a lovely, learned response  barbtries   Feb-16-09 12:58 PM   #124 
  - Fantastic post!  Zhade   Feb-16-09 06:47 PM   #142 
  - Considering the "odds" the stupid thing to say would be "doubt it"  Winterblues   Feb-16-09 01:33 PM   #128 
  - Actually "doubt it" would not be at all stupid.  RaleighNCDUer   Feb-16-09 02:41 PM   #133 
  - Why would your analogy apply? The universe is made of the same essential material.  Uncle Joe   Feb-16-09 01:38 PM   #129 
  - the idea that there are more earth size planets than this one pissed you off, huh?  fascisthunter   Feb-17-09 02:04 PM   #157 
  - probably fearing the possibility that there is another parallel version of self on one of them  Runcible Spoon   Feb-17-09 04:48 PM   #164 
  - thanks for posting this  Bill McBlueState   Feb-17-09 02:15 PM   #158 
  - now there's a tarted-up headline. i hate bad science reporting.  enki23   Feb-15-09 08:47 PM   #2 
  - Those earth like planets could possibly only be in the first stages of  Lint Head   Feb-15-09 08:50 PM   # 
  - Time and space are equally vast  MindMatter   Feb-15-09 09:19 PM   #21 
  - Or the bacteria  get the red out   Feb-15-09 09:52 PM   #32 
  - why?  Voice for Peace   Feb-15-09 11:59 PM   #53 
  - not so sure. I think, given the sheer  trekbiker   Feb-16-09 02:03 AM   #68 
     - The problem is one of space, as well as time.  The Stranger   Feb-16-09 09:12 AM   #104 
  - Those earth like planets could possibly only be in the first stages of  Lint Head   Feb-15-09 08:50 PM   #3 
  - Some of them could also be exact duplicates of each other.  Jackpine Radical   Feb-15-09 08:55 PM   #6 
  - The earth, and our solar system, being around...  TreasonousBastard   Feb-15-09 09:40 PM   #28 
  - Great. That means there could be billions of Carson Daly's! n/t  Mojambo   Feb-15-09 08:53 PM   #4 
  - and the possibilities to relocate Republicans to places that really could love them!  nolabels   Feb-15-09 10:49 PM   #49 
     - And the sooner we find those places the better.  LiberalFighter   Feb-16-09 08:30 AM   #91 
     - i'm quite certain  barbtries   Feb-16-09 01:01 PM   #125 
        - Okay let me clarify... dominant life form without competition.  LiberalFighter   Feb-16-09 01:51 PM   #130 
     - WAY too much trouble!  FiveGoodMen   Feb-16-09 04:46 PM   #138 
  - Didn't Carl Sagan give us this hypothesis in the 1970s? (n/t)  derby378   Feb-15-09 08:54 PM   #5 
  - Sagan popularized something like that  Jackpine Radical   Feb-15-09 08:57 PM   #7 
  - Drake Equation (1961) - but it had been discussed for 40 years prior.  Piewhacket   Feb-15-09 09:18 PM   #19 
  - I would imagine that if the answers to the Drake equation were plotted  Jackpine Radical   Feb-15-09 09:55 PM   #37 
     - My astronomy prof. at Caltech George Djorgovsky told me:  DUlover2909   Feb-16-09 03:18 AM   #71 
        - that's just because you're a person  harmonicon   Feb-16-09 06:14 AM   #80 
           - Well said.  Shardik   Feb-16-09 09:43 AM   #113 
  - Yep, and he wasn't "lazy" or "stupid". I think he also had his balls his whole life.  Zhade   Feb-16-09 06:48 PM   #144 
  - Probably.  Bill McBlueState   Feb-15-09 08:58 PM   #9 
     - Exactly. The preponderance of evidence has flipped  MindMatter   Feb-15-09 09:07 PM   #13 
  - And right now Dick Cheney ....  Cato the Younger   Feb-15-09 08:58 PM   #8 
  - You'll know it's true when the Republics put forth a bill to fund education.  DCKit   Feb-16-09 10:47 AM   #117 
  - BREAKING NEWS: Intergalactic poll shows George W. Bush is the worst president in the universe!  HopeHoops   Feb-15-09 09:16 PM   #17 
  - That one made me laugh out loud  Turborama   Feb-15-09 09:24 PM   #23 
  - Ming the Merciless demanded a recount.  tclambert   Feb-15-09 09:53 PM   #34 
  - YOU are very Funny!! I wish I had a heart to give to you, but I'm broke.  patrice   Feb-15-09 10:03 PM   #42 
  - DUzy Material!!!  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 12:29 AM   #59 
  - I'd give you a heart if I wan't totally out of money. You rock!  Political Heretic   Feb-16-09 03:48 AM   #73 
  - good one, lol  wordpix   Feb-17-09 08:05 PM   #169 
  - call me when we're invited to join the united federation of planets...  dysfunctional press   Feb-15-09 09:17 PM   #18 
  - Has anyone traveled at warp speed yet?  Autumn Colors   Feb-15-09 09:55 PM   #36 
     - Autumn Colors  Diclotican   Feb-15-09 10:37 PM   #48 
     - I did last week and puked...nt  and-justice-for-all   Feb-16-09 06:00 AM   #79 
  - So much for the religious freaks and their  rurallib   Feb-15-09 09:28 PM   #24 
  - Wouldn't you like to ask them "When/Where- ever that other Life is/was/will-be, what do you suppose  patrice   Feb-15-09 10:01 PM   #41 
  - Finding inteligent life on other worlds would kill the Abrahamic religions dead.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 12:31 AM   #60 
  - I find it humorous that Dr. Boss would make such a dumbass comment about there  bertman   Feb-15-09 09:34 PM   #25 
  - There are a couple of books you could read, and then Dr. Boss won't sound like a dumbass  Psephos   Feb-15-09 09:43 PM   #29 
  - Of course, there are always books one can read to enlighten oneself about things that  bertman   Feb-15-09 10:26 PM   #45 
  - speculating on the existence of bacteria on other planets  trekbiker   Feb-16-09 02:16 AM   #69 
     - I think he's trying to say that life on other planets won't necessarily resemble Earthly life.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 08:14 AM   #90 
     - You beat me to it- I was gonna say nobody said it was anthropomorphic 'bacteria or amino acids'  jhrobbins   Feb-16-09 09:29 AM   #108 
     - No. I'm saying that we infer from our planetary experience what might be happening  bertman   Feb-16-09 03:57 PM   #136 
        - No, we just take data available and make the best educated guesses  Runcible Spoon   Feb-17-09 04:56 PM   #165 
  - If you want Dr Boss to sound like less of a dumbass...  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-17-09 09:53 PM   #171 
  - I agree with you  Squatch   Feb-16-09 07:40 AM   #86 
  - More than likely, it was a throwaway remark  Bill McBlueState   Feb-17-09 08:54 AM   #150 
  - I wish Sagan were still with us. He died, what, a year before the first exoplanet was found?  Odin2005   Feb-15-09 09:35 PM   #26 
  - The most important image ever taken...  mia   Feb-15-09 09:45 PM   #30 
  - WOW! That was AMAZING!! Thanks for the share. n/t  Turborama   Feb-15-09 10:50 PM   #50 
  - I have the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field as my desktop.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 12:23 AM   #56 
     - Why is that when I look at things like that....  and-justice-for-all   Feb-16-09 05:56 AM   #78 
        - Cuz it puts us in our proper place.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 08:08 AM   #89 
  - Talking of exoplanets...  Turborama   Feb-15-09 09:57 PM   #39 
  - WOW!!!  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 12:26 AM   #57 
  - We found "Super-Earths"?????  Joe Bacon   Feb-16-09 07:07 AM   #83 
     - LOL, ok, hot Neptunes stripped of their gas would be more accurate, maybe, LOL!!! n/t  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 07:58 AM   #87 
  - In case anyone hasn't noticed,  Bill McBlueState   Feb-16-09 08:49 AM   #96 
  - close  Bill McBlueState   Feb-16-09 08:47 AM   #94 
  - .  XemaSab   Feb-15-09 09:49 PM   #31 
  - So how much longer is our planet going to be supporting life?  undeterred   Feb-15-09 09:56 PM   #38 
  - "billions of earths?"  orleans   Feb-15-09 10:07 PM   #43 
  - To clarify, he means "Earth-sized" planets.  tclambert   Feb-15-09 10:24 PM   #44 
  - Agreed  OmahaGTP   Feb-15-09 10:56 PM   #51 
  - My hypothesis is that all civilizations we find will be so advanced that they are God-like.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 12:39 AM   #61 
     - They have an invisibility shield surrounding their planet to avoid detection.  LiberalFighter   Feb-16-09 08:47 AM   #95 
     - Not As Outlandish As Your Rolling Eyes Would Make It Seem.  jayfish   Feb-16-09 09:57 AM   #115 
     - There is another explanation that is much more dismal  endarkenment   Feb-16-09 01:29 PM   #127 
        - Rare? Sure  comrade snarky   Feb-16-09 05:27 PM   #140 
           - Rare and brief resolves the Fermi paradox.  endarkenment   Feb-17-09 01:35 PM   #156 
              - No, it's not  comrade snarky   Feb-17-09 03:23 PM   #159 
                 - So if tech civs are long lived  endarkenment   Feb-17-09 04:12 PM   #162 
                    - It's not so easy to detect a civilization  comrade snarky   Feb-17-09 04:44 PM   #163 
                       - OK you are completely missing the point.  endarkenment   Feb-17-09 05:23 PM   #167 
                          - No, I know of Drakes Equation  comrade snarky   Feb-17-09 07:58 PM   #168 
  - I think I recall seeing an article somewhere that said free oxygen...  DUlover2909   Feb-16-09 03:09 AM   #70 
  - Consider the unknowns in Drake's equation  exboyfil   Feb-16-09 05:06 AM   #74 
     - I don't doubt what you say, exboyfil.  Enthusiast   Feb-16-09 09:41 AM   #111 
  - Oh, what a relief--!!1 We can destroy planet after planet and just move on to the next one --!!!  defendandprotect   Feb-15-09 10:32 PM   #46 
  - dupe  defendandprotect   Feb-15-09 10:34 PM   #47 
  - didn't Sagan comment on this on one of his books?  Lethe   Feb-16-09 12:02 AM   #54 
  - Galaxy, more likely n/t  Oak2004   Feb-16-09 12:27 AM   #58 
  - that would be much less than one per galaxy  Bill McBlueState   Feb-16-09 08:52 AM   #98 
  - Billions of Sarah Palins! Eeks! Can they all see us from their porches?  McCamy Taylor   Feb-16-09 12:42 AM   #62 
  - Nahhh.... look how long it took for earth to produce a Sarah Palin  LiberalFighter   Feb-16-09 08:50 AM   #97 
  - Do they have any gold? Calling Christopher Columbus!  L. Coyote   Feb-16-09 12:53 AM   #64 
  - A couple of reasons why Earth became Earth....  Aviation Pro   Feb-16-09 01:40 AM   #66 
  - Actually...  jayfish   Feb-16-09 08:55 AM   #100 
  - A couple more  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-17-09 09:47 PM   #170 
  - Josei Toda said that the more science discovered, the more Buddhism would be validated  DesertDiamond   Feb-16-09 01:53 AM   #67 
  - The minute we make first contact, Religion is FINISHED  Joe Bacon   Feb-16-09 06:50 PM   #145 
  - The Fermi Paradox relates directly to this  GliderGuider   Feb-16-09 05:28 AM   #75 
  - Fermi forgot about distances....  and-justice-for-all   Feb-16-09 05:54 AM   #77 
     - Fermi also doesn't consider the possible types of intelligence  comrade snarky   Feb-16-09 06:14 PM   #141 
        - There may be technological life\societies and non-technological life\societies  and-justice-for-all   Feb-16-09 06:47 PM   #143 
           - Long term I agree, I think we'll make it long enough know  comrade snarky   Feb-16-09 07:47 PM   #147 
  - Of course there are 'earth-like' planets out there...  and-justice-for-all   Feb-16-09 05:37 AM   #76 
  - Is there an end to the universe?  W_HAMILTON   Feb-16-09 06:55 AM   #81 
  - we'll have a better idea once we figure out dark energy  Bill McBlueState   Feb-16-09 08:58 AM   #101 
     - That's but one theory  crimsonblue   Feb-16-09 10:52 AM   #119 
     - this is what I mean by "current estimates"  Bill McBlueState   Feb-16-09 11:37 AM   #122 
        - I'll agree that current calculation have the Universe's expansion accelerating  crimsonblue   Feb-16-09 01:12 PM   #126 
     - I can't even fathom that.  W_HAMILTON   Feb-16-09 04:25 PM   #137 
  - Way too much Firefly/Serenity for this guy. Fuck up one, they want to fuck up others.  vaberella   Feb-16-09 06:59 AM   #82 
  - Aw damn it, whenever anyone makes a Firefly reference I'm supposed to drink  shadowknows69   Feb-16-09 07:10 AM   #85 
  - Hahahaha!!! Too funny! ^_^  vaberella   Feb-16-09 02:56 PM   #135 
  - Who's proposing trying to "get to" any of these planets?  Bill McBlueState   Feb-16-09 09:00 AM   #102 
     - It always starts "plan-lite" ...  vaberella   Feb-16-09 02:55 PM   #134 
  - The fact that the earth hasn't been invited into some "galactic consortium" yet  shadowknows69   Feb-16-09 07:08 AM   #84 
  - For all we know they've set a quarantine zone around the solar system. n|t  Eryemil   Feb-16-09 08:34 AM   #92 
  - The BBC's headline is rather misleading.  Phoonzang   Feb-16-09 08:03 AM   #88 
  - Venus-like worlds are probably far, far more common then Earthlike ones.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 08:38 AM   #93 
  - I have always thought that.  sandyj999   Feb-16-09 09:07 AM   #103 
  - Billions and Billions of Freeper heads exploding. OMG..its full of jars!  paparush   Feb-16-09 09:13 AM   #105 
  - I laughed. I cried. I wet myself.  Dogmudgeon   Feb-18-09 12:31 AM   #173 
  - kewl  comtec   Feb-16-09 09:20 AM   #106 
  - Astrophysicists (especially the ones on A&E and Discovery) are given to such hyperbole.  jhrobbins   Feb-16-09 09:32 AM   #109 
  - Not So Fast  jayfish   Feb-16-09 09:43 AM   #114 
  - Thanks for that - I often quote that to friends. It still sounds like a lot of suns though  jhrobbins   Feb-16-09 10:50 AM   #118 
     - Now That I Think Of It, If We're Thinking Specifically...  jayfish   Feb-16-09 10:56 AM   #120 
  - Ha, ha, that's definitely a selection effect  Bill McBlueState   Feb-17-09 09:00 AM   #151 
  - But how many have a thin enough atmosphere?  krispos42   Feb-16-09 09:40 AM   #110 
  - We have a Venus-worth of CO2 trapped in limestone rock.  Odin2005   Feb-16-09 12:51 PM   #123 
  - It's always amazed me how people could believe in evolution and not believe another  superconnected   Feb-16-09 02:01 PM   #131 
  - "And crawling on the planets face, some insects called the human race.  unc70   Feb-16-09 04:49 PM   #139 
  - I've never thought otherwise, since I was old enough to think about it. nt  tbyg52   Feb-16-09 07:38 PM   #146 
  - You don't need a degree to figure this one out. Thanks for the obvious.  goforit   Feb-16-09 09:59 PM   #148 
  - You may not need a degree  Bill McBlueState   Feb-17-09 09:38 AM   #152 
  - The Galaxy Song  ProudDad   Feb-16-09 10:10 PM   #149 
  - Remember this song?  onager   Feb-18-09 02:11 AM   #175 
  - Unlikely. First you have to consider the  Strong Atheist   Feb-17-09 11:53 AM   #153 
  - And yet we exist  daleo   Feb-17-09 12:14 PM   #154 
  - There are 100 billion stars in the galaxy, and billions of galaxies in the  Strong Atheist   Feb-17-09 12:16 PM   #155 
     - Well, the article said billions of earth-like planets  daleo   Feb-17-09 05:00 PM   #166 
  - I like the Fredric Brown Theory...  onager   Feb-18-09 02:18 AM   #176 
  - Maybe we can send * and the lemming pugs there..  Xenotime   Feb-17-09 03:38 PM   #160 
  - It would be terribly sad to think we were alone  marksmithfield   Feb-17-09 03:47 PM   #161 
  - to me the curious thing is if other "earths" exist why not little green men  stevebreeze   Feb-17-09 09:54 PM   #172 

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