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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:55 AM
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79. Again you are wrong. There
are many in the US who want to trade with Cuba.

The people opposed to trade with Cuba are specious in their moral outrage. The US has and does trade with non-democratic countries like China. Even going so far as selling technology (Microsoft) to China that is specifically used to identify dissenters. The embargo against Cuba, a country under siege and justified in imposing quasi-martial law restrictions, is really inspired by the fact that Castro screwed up the Cuban Mafia (read: close friends of the BFEE)drug and gambling operations. Cuba was a primary transshipment point for drugs coming from Europe before Castro overthrew Batista . The Cuban Mafai in Florida have been pissing and fuming ever since.

If you are interested read "The Politics of Heroin: CIA complicity in the International Drug Trade" by Alfred McCoy.
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  -Cuba trying to head off mass exodus from Haiti JudiLyn  Feb-19-04 10:06 AM   #0 
  - people going TO Cuba?  ret5hd   Feb-19-04 10:29 AM   #1 
  - I would much rather live in Cuba  BayCityProgressive   Feb-19-04 11:07 AM   #2 
     - my point exactly...  ret5hd   Feb-19-04 11:11 AM   #3 
        - yeah I agree  BayCityProgressive   Feb-19-04 12:05 PM   #4 
        - Quality of life in Cuba ranks better than most countries in the Americas  Osolomia   Feb-19-04 01:03 PM   #5 
           - If that is true  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-19-04 01:07 PM   #7 
           - Doesn't prove anything  JCCyC   Feb-19-04 01:11 PM   #9 
           - What I can never get straight  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-19-04 01:16 PM   #11 
              - <dylan>The answer, my friend, is in your username </dylan>(nt)  JCCyC   Feb-19-04 01:17 PM   #13 
           - In spite of the embargo. Anybody knows that.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-19-04 01:12 PM   #10 
              - Then the embargo can't really be harming it too much, can it?  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-19-04 01:16 PM   #12 
                 - My uncle has cancer but he can still walk around.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-19-04 01:22 PM   #15 
                 - Sending American troops into combat IS an invasion  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-19-04 04:53 PM   #17 
                    - Bogus arguments as always.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-19-04 05:21 PM   #18 
                       - You definitely speak for some of us, SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN! Thanks.  JudiLyn   Feb-19-04 09:39 PM   #19 
                          - Which specifically?  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-19-04 09:53 PM   #20 
                             - I might have gone too far with certain things I said about you personally.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-20-04 07:34 AM   #21 
                 - The embargo is keeping Cuba from greater things still.  9215   Feb-20-04 07:52 AM   #22 
                 - Cuba has no inherent right to trade with the U.S.  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 07:55 AM   #23 
                    - Suite yourself  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 09:58 AM   #24 
                    - Plus don't forget every nation depends on its trade with the US.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-20-04 10:25 AM   #25 
                    - No, every nation does NOT depend on trade with the U.S.  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 10:35 AM   #27 
                       - You seem to be unaware of the extraterritorial aspects of our embargo  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 10:41 AM   #29 
                       - I have read tons on Cuba and the embargo  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 10:47 AM   #30 
                       - You need to read the article, so you, too, may grasp the central elements  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 10:54 AM   #32 
                       - Muddle is aware of Helms-Burton & just repeats the rhetoric  Mika   Feb-21-04 09:46 AM   #77 
                          - Amazing, isn't it?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-21-04 09:52 AM   #78 
                             - “pointless flaming” is against DU’s rules  Osolomia   Feb-21-04 10:28 AM   #80 
                       - Could?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-20-04 12:49 PM   #51 
                          - I am entirely comfortable  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:57 PM   #53 
                             - It seems more like you're entirely comfortable  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-20-04 01:07 PM   #56 
                                - Again he is a dictator 90 miles from our shores  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 03:54 PM   #62 
                                   - That's a bullshit  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-20-04 04:28 PM   #64 
                                      - I urge us to EXPAND that policy  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 04:31 PM   #65 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-20-04 04:36 PM   #66 
                    - When you refer to someone as "a blithering idiot"  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 10:34 AM   #26 
                       - Careful, Muddle - you might be accused of bigotry  yellowcanine   Feb-20-04 10:51 AM   #31 
                       - Spewing US government Cold War propaganda stereotypes  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 11:44 AM   #36 
                          - What "undeniable facts?"  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:14 PM   #41 
                          - "Killed"? Got a link to backup your fantasy?  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 01:24 PM   #57 
                             - No reports of politically motivated killings?  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 01:44 PM   #58 
                                - Tell that to Anita  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-21-04 06:22 AM   #74 
                                   - Grandparents?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-21-04 09:40 AM   #76 
                          - Interesting to see Republican Senator Larry Craig took his assistant,  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 12:23 PM   #44 
                             - How long has this been going on and why don't Dems know about it?  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 01:58 PM   #59 
                                - Rats, the link's down already. I found this reference to her visit.  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 02:09 PM   #60 
                                   - A photo from that dinner for the "Castro apologists" gallery  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 03:47 PM   #61 
                                      - Cool one!  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 04:00 PM   #63 
                       - And American businesspeople, don't THEY have rights?  JCCyC   Feb-20-04 11:09 AM   #34 
                       - We also have rules  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:02 PM   #37 
                          - What do you mean by the "government"  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 12:13 PM   #40 
                             - Alas, I know how our system works  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:15 PM   #42 
                                - Defying the will of the MAJORITY is the trait of a dictator  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 12:36 PM   #49 
                                   - Nope  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:58 PM   #54 
                       - Only a blithering idiot would fail to recognize the will of the MAJORITY  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 11:24 AM   #35 
                          - The will of the majority  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:03 PM   #38 
                             - Just the way you like it eh?  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 12:10 PM   #39 
                             - Huh?  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:16 PM   #43 
                             - No post. Meant post to go to Osolomia. n/t  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 12:26 PM   #45 
                             - Evidently the major travesty of democracy doesn't bother you one bit  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 12:27 PM   #46 
                                - Sounds like you need government lessons  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 12:59 PM   #55 
                             - I remember reading just last week Republican Senator Larry Craig  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 12:28 PM   #47 
                             - So. It's the cigars that bother you.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Feb-20-04 12:53 PM   #52 
                    - Whaaaa. "The embargo keeps them from nothing"????  9215   Feb-20-04 04:44 PM   #67 
                       - Much like the 1930s, we have a right to trade with who we wish  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 05:00 PM   #69 
                          - Whew! You contradict yourself from one sentence to next.  9215   Feb-20-04 10:22 PM   #72 
                             - I oppose trade relations with dictators  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-20-04 11:41 PM   #73 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-21-04 06:47 AM   #75 
                                - Again you are wrong. There  9215   Feb-21-04 09:55 AM   #79 
                                - Not wrong at all  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-21-04 12:26 PM   #81 
                                   - Still in a state of denial despite the mountain of evidence in your face  Osolomia   Feb-21-04 12:59 PM   #82 
                                      - What do you claim I deny?  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-21-04 01:36 PM   #83 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-21-04 01:55 PM   #84 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-21-04 04:48 PM   #85 
                                - You are going to ignore the inconvenient facts I presented?  9215   Feb-21-04 05:15 PM   #86 
                                   - Let's see  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-21-04 05:28 PM   #87 
                                   - Why focus on Castro?  Mika   Feb-21-04 05:42 PM   #88 
                 - You could enlighten the American Association for World Health  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 10:37 AM   #28 
           - Sh!t, we're behind  JCCyC   Feb-19-04 01:08 PM   #8 
        - Haitians might also move to Southeast D.C.  Muddleoftheroad   Feb-19-04 01:06 PM   #6 
           - I never said Cuba was a worker's paradise  BayCityProgressive   Feb-19-04 01:20 PM   #14 
  - Refugee Movements Quite Understandable  VogonGlory   Feb-19-04 04:12 PM   #16 
  - For anyone who appreciates the photos of Alberto Korda  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 11:04 AM   #33 
  - CHIMPANZEE McSHRUB needsCuba to house his Concentration Camp  saigon68   Feb-20-04 12:34 PM   #48 
  - how's it feel Cuba??????  Fargin Ice Hole   Feb-20-04 12:45 PM   #50 
  - Let me guess.  9215   Feb-20-04 04:46 PM   #68 
  - Familiar pattern, throwing hundreds of millions into destabilization  JudiLyn   Feb-20-04 05:16 PM   #70 
  - Familiar pattern of policy based on lies and bullshit Dems still cling to  Osolomia   Feb-20-04 06:00 PM   #71 
  - Locking  Moderator   Feb-21-04 05:55 PM   #89 
 

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