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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:39 PM
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7. Good - and the Treasury is bankrupt -- possible depression or more ...
War is psychotic -- let's give it up-!

Let the PNAC finance their own wars ---

And let's begin to learn again how to live without oil ---

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  -Obama puts brake on Afghan surge IndianaGreen  Feb-07-09 09:29 PM   #0 
  - Good news! I hope its true. nt  ZombieHorde   Feb-07-09 09:31 PM   #1 
  - anyone schooled in ICS.....?  pasto76   Feb-07-09 10:29 PM   #16 
  - No, this is BAD news. B-A-D  Squatch   Feb-07-09 10:34 PM   #19 
     - From what I heard, the new troops were to be deployed around Kabul  IndianaGreen   Feb-07-09 10:54 PM   #22 
     - That's incorrect.  Squatch   Feb-07-09 11:01 PM   #26 
        - Hopefully this isn't a long delay, just a prudent  Still Sensible   Feb-07-09 11:35 PM   #34 
        - Afghanistan Is No Iraq  DallasNE   Feb-08-09 11:23 AM   #71 
     - Hey Squatch, you stay safe, okay?  Hekate   Feb-07-09 11:20 PM   #29 
     - Hey, thanks!  Squatch   Feb-07-09 11:23 PM   #30 
     - Glad you're getting a chance for a break  NeedleCast   Feb-08-09 11:00 AM   #69 
     - Agreed - stay safe, and try not to kill anyone.  Zhade   Feb-08-09 04:26 PM   #89 
     - Oh NO. Another group making world cops?  earcandle   Feb-07-09 11:38 PM   #35 
     - Why are we in there?  Cherchez la Femme   Feb-08-09 11:45 AM   #73 
        - Wrong  Bragi   Feb-08-09 01:36 PM   #79 
        - Uh, no. They weren't.  Zhade   Feb-08-09 04:27 PM   #90 
        - The Taliban was NOT directly involved in 9/11, unless you have  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 05:54 PM   #94 
     - Here, here! I agree.  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 01:20 AM   #44 
     - What fight?  bottomtheweaver   Feb-08-09 02:11 AM   #51 
     - I see. nt  ZombieHorde   Feb-08-09 05:03 AM   #52 
     - The generals, that Bush put into power, btw, need to get a coherent plan together then. (nt)  w4rma   Feb-08-09 10:50 AM   #65 
     - As much as I'm against war  Cherchez la Femme   Feb-08-09 11:31 AM   #72 
     - Do you apply that same flawed reasoning to Iraq?  Zhade   Feb-08-09 04:28 PM   #91 
     - Why?  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 05:51 PM   #93 
     - They used to say exactly the same thing about Vietnam, i.e., "As long as we're there,  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 05:56 PM   #95 
     - Thought wouldn't reviewing the strategy be a good idea?  uppityperson   Feb-08-09 05:44 PM   #92 
     - First I just want to say, stay safe and all the best to you. I wondered  Jefferson23   Feb-08-09 06:57 PM   #104 
  - I hope this is true... Cause President Obama needs to end these wars.. Now.. n/t  LakeSamish706   Feb-07-09 09:32 PM   #2 
  - he must have gotten his latest Newsweek  Enrique   Feb-07-09 09:33 PM   #3 
  - I have not understood why people think we are all aware of the huge potential peril in Afghanistan  Pirate Smile   Feb-07-09 09:43 PM   #8 
  - I think there are some highly qualified...  stillcool   Feb-07-09 10:31 PM   #17 
  - LOL. I've noticed that too.  Pirate Smile   Feb-07-09 10:55 PM   #23 
  - Thank you! You got that right, as usual...  clixtox   Feb-08-09 01:03 AM   #43 
  - Well, you one upped me on this one. I've said that a DU panel should run the U.S.  elocs   Feb-08-09 09:12 AM   #56 
     - You realize that would give Skinner ultimate veto power.  Jackpine Radical   Feb-08-09 10:52 AM   #67 
  - I hope you're right  Chulanowa   Feb-07-09 11:31 PM   #33 
  - In addition to having a President who clearly speaks the english,  Left Coast2020   Feb-07-09 11:26 PM   #32 
  - I hope he reads my posts - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 06:02 PM   #97 
  - Glad to see he is stepping back rather than sticking with his Campaign promises.  biopowertoday   Feb-08-09 09:21 AM   #57 
  - That is an awesome cover - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 05:57 PM   #96 
  - Good. If you don't know your mission  sandnsea   Feb-07-09 09:38 PM   #4 
  - Or Sun Tzu. None of this is new.  Bette Noir   Feb-07-09 11:14 PM   #28 
  - Belicus interruptus  Xipe Totec   Feb-07-09 09:39 PM   #5 
  - LOLOLOLOL!  earcandle   Feb-07-09 11:42 PM   #36 
  - where is all the money going to come from?  xchrom   Feb-07-09 09:39 PM   #6 
  - Good - and the Treasury is bankrupt -- possible depression or more ...  defendandprotect   Feb-07-09 09:39 PM   #7 
  - Sounds prudent to me.  Cass   Feb-07-09 09:46 PM   #9 
  - Don't worry! Clean Coal will save us!!  RufusTFirefly   Feb-07-09 10:01 PM   #10 
  - puke.... oops!  earcandle   Feb-07-09 11:44 PM   #37 
  - good news!! thanks for this!  inna   Feb-07-09 10:02 PM   #11 
  - Me too!  earcandle   Feb-07-09 11:44 PM   #38 
  - He's finally getting it.  aquart   Feb-07-09 10:12 PM   #12 
  - Obama is a quick study!  IndianaGreen   Feb-07-09 10:15 PM   #13 
     - I think he always got it.  bemildred   Feb-07-09 10:27 PM   #15 
     - Whatever plan they come up with, be it coherent or otherwise, must  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 06:03 PM   #98 
        - "Will the last American out of Vietnam please turn out the light at the end of the tunnel?" That  No Elephants   Feb-09-09 11:05 AM   #113 
     - Whether we stay or go, there's going to be a lot more killing there.  aquart   Feb-07-09 10:50 PM   #20 
     - It is actually terribly sad - especially for the girls and women there but we could literally  Pirate Smile   Feb-07-09 10:59 PM   #25 
        - A friend visits some poor families in Kabul.  aquart   Feb-07-09 11:06 PM   #27 
        - It is a beautiful culture that we destroyed. Treaty of Tripoli anyone?  earcandle   Feb-07-09 11:48 PM   #39 
           - The Afghan culture is alive and well.  Squatch   Feb-07-09 11:56 PM   #40 
     - It takes more than two. It takes changing your party affiliation, then bending over.  No Elephants   Feb-09-09 11:16 AM   #115 
  - GOBAMA!  rgbecker   Feb-07-09 10:21 PM   #14 
  - Maybe President Obama got wind of Terry Gross' interview of Sarah Chayse on Fresh Air  bertman   Feb-07-09 10:33 PM   #18 
  - Doesn't Gates know that  Politicalboi   Feb-07-09 10:53 PM   #21 
  - bring all the troops home now. nt  Mari333   Feb-07-09 10:58 PM   #24 
  - Whats the endgame. This speaks volumes.  Gregorian   Feb-07-09 11:26 PM   #31 
  - When I worked for the Controller's office here in San Francisco I completed  earcandle   Feb-07-09 11:57 PM   #41 
     - Under the Taliban  Cherchez la Femme   Feb-08-09 11:57 AM   #74 
        - "Emasculate the Taliban" - are you friggin' joking? Do you even  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 06:06 PM   #99 
  - Only send them if we/they really, truly need them,  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 01:00 AM   #42 
  - Welcome to DU but......  snappyturtle   Feb-08-09 10:37 AM   #64 
     - The so-called "surge" of 30,000 US troops in Iraq only "worked"  coalition_unwilling   Feb-08-09 06:10 PM   #100 
        - Yes, definitely, that too! nt  snappyturtle   Feb-09-09 10:48 AM   #112 
  - Measure twice...cut once...  sutz12   Feb-08-09 01:23 AM   #45 
  - Thank God,  Catamount   Feb-08-09 01:26 AM   #46 
  - Counterpoints:  Squatch   Feb-08-09 01:43 AM   #47 
  - Wow. I support all the good that you're doing.  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 02:04 AM   #49 
  - Thank you for the explanations. I think what Obama wants from the top  geckosfeet   Feb-08-09 08:32 AM   #55 
  - Thanks Squatch for your feet on the ground assessment  elocs   Feb-08-09 09:30 AM   #58 
  - What "assessment"?  ronnie624   Feb-08-09 10:27 AM   #61 
     - Since I wasn't talking to you, I think I'll just ignore you. Goodbye. n/t  elocs   Feb-08-09 10:31 AM   #63 
  - I don't buy your political message...  Bragi   Feb-08-09 01:52 PM   #81 
  - C'mon...  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 06:24 PM   #101 
     - Not one thing  Bragi   Feb-08-09 06:56 PM   #103 
  - I've always had respect for your opinions ...and  Catamount   Feb-09-09 01:14 AM   #110 
  - Wait. The freakin' Taliban offered us bin Laden?!  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 01:59 AM   #48 
     - I remember it quite well. What the Taliban basically said is this: "Show us your proof that Osama  scarletwoman   Feb-08-09 08:24 PM   #106 
     - Newspapers back to 2001? Got Google?  No Elephants   Feb-09-09 11:14 AM   #114 
  - Great news and good for President Obama!  bottomtheweaver   Feb-08-09 02:09 AM   #50 
  - Bravo.That`s what I wanted to hear.K & R!  Hope And Change   Feb-08-09 05:14 AM   #53 
  - Obama has a brief window to let Bush take the blame for the certain debacle in Afghanistan. After  jody   Feb-08-09 08:21 AM   #54 
  - Perhaps Obama is choosing what he thinks is the best course of action for his country and the world  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-09-09 02:16 PM   #117 
  - The problem is that the mission of the Bushwhacks is WRONG, and the mission hasn't changed.  Peace Patriot   Feb-08-09 09:38 AM   #59 
  - ^^ THE TRUTH FOR ALL WHO CARE TO READ IT ^^  bottomtheweaver   Feb-08-09 10:31 AM   #62 
  - Peace Patriot: Words to live by.  The abyss   Feb-08-09 10:51 AM   #66 
  - Kick for a genuine assessment. n/t  ronnie624   Feb-08-09 10:59 AM   #68 
  - So your opposition is only based on ideological, existential reasons, then?  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 02:50 PM   #85 
  - It doesn't get any more nuts and bolts than 911.  bottomtheweaver   Feb-08-09 03:02 PM   #86 
  - The towers collapsed because two airplanes crashed into them.  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 06:36 PM   #102 
  - Why do I feel like we've just had a visit from Dick Cheney's new office in the burbs?  chill_wind   Feb-08-09 03:55 PM   #88 
  - And why am I a DLCer from Dick Cheney's office?  conturnedpro09   Feb-08-09 07:15 PM   #105 
  - What a bunch of incoherent nonsense. It's nothing but a rambling apologia for social engineering at  scarletwoman   Feb-08-09 09:19 PM   #107 
  - Well said. n/t  blindpig   Feb-10-09 10:28 AM   #121 
  - KNR!~ I am impressed.  tekisui   Feb-08-09 09:49 AM   #60 
  - When did the country of Afghanistan attack the USA?  AlbertCat   Feb-08-09 11:17 AM   #70 
  - Brilliant  SpartanDem   Feb-08-09 12:38 PM   #75 
     - Afghanistan was not an AQ accomplice. Criminals in their government were.  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 12:50 PM   #76 
     - Al Qaeda is a world problem. But do you see any other country jumping in to  Peace Patriot   Feb-08-09 03:52 PM   #87 
  - "Whats the endgame? be ready for mission statement redefined in a few days time  ohio2007   Feb-08-09 01:07 PM   #77 
  - I guess the global banking industry has squeezed all the profits they can out of Afghanistan heroin.  ronnie624   Feb-08-09 01:22 PM   #78 
     - True.  avaistheone1   Feb-08-09 01:59 PM   #82 
     - It would be very wise of Obama not to get us further involved there.  avaistheone1   Feb-08-09 02:01 PM   #83 
     - but the CIA will never give up the cash crop right ?  ohio2007   Feb-08-09 02:02 PM   #84 
        - To clarify:  ronnie624   Feb-08-09 11:15 PM   #109 
        - What's a "ten year Haidas"?  Art_from_Ark   Feb-10-09 12:10 AM   #119 
  - Good  Bragi   Feb-08-09 01:39 PM   #80 
  - I highly recommend Pat Lang's take on all this: "What do we want in Afghanistan?"  scarletwoman   Feb-08-09 09:28 PM   #108 
  - The US just needs to stand down and the world would be better off.  Xenotime   Feb-09-09 08:42 AM   #111 
  - Afghani women wouldn't be....  conturnedpro09   Feb-09-09 09:18 PM   #118 
     - I believe the U.S. government  ronnie624   Feb-10-09 08:33 AM   #120 
  - This thread seems to have been invaded by cons ("cons" in more ways than one).  No Elephants   Feb-09-09 11:21 AM   #116 
 

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