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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 04:21 PM
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17. There has been a shift to try to manage these intrusions via the media
though, so it's surprising that this kind of old style naked attempt to manipulate was done in this way.
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  -Ecuador's president orders U.S. official to leave Judi Lynn  Feb-07-09 03:01 PM   #0 
  - I don't think I understand what happened. What was Astorga trying to buy?  EFerrari   Feb-07-09 03:06 PM   #1 
  - I haven't read the article, but my first guess is that it's "Drug War" related. (nt)  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 03:10 PM   #2 
  - It does seem to be that. Good guess.  EFerrari   Feb-07-09 03:54 PM   #8 
     - That's a slap in the face to Correa, no doubt about it. Typical right-wing foreign policy.  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 04:04 PM   #13 
     - It's not particularly "right-wing" it's standard Bipartisan Foreign Policy Establishment Imperialism  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 04:19 PM   #16 
        - Or, Obama -- CF Dennis Blair. n/t  EFerrari   Feb-07-09 04:23 PM   #18 
        - Carter did make some critically important adjustments in Latin American policy after he got the hang  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 04:26 PM   #19 
           - The thing is, there are bigger powers at work behind the scenes, no matter who is president.  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 04:41 PM   #21 
              - Yep. It's the bitter truth. By the way, did you know Kennedy was engaged in dialogue with Castro?  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 05:09 PM   #23 
                 - Don't have cable, but I did know about that. It just reinforces the truth about who's in control nt  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 05:18 PM   #26 
     - Easy guess, actually. The U.S. has a set repertoire in Latin America: Drug War, Resouce Control,  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 04:14 PM   #14 
        - There has been a shift to try to manage these intrusions via the media  EFerrari   Feb-07-09 04:21 PM   #17 
           - It was done in this way because the powers behind it hold Latin America in utter contempt.  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 04:49 PM   #22 
           - My first reaction was "Why go to the media? Go through the usual channels. But  No Elephants   Feb-07-09 06:04 PM   #33 
              - They always try to smear the guys that fight back.  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 12:23 AM   #41 
                 - Come to think of it, any time there's a problem anywhere in this hemisphere, we hear  No Elephants   Feb-09-09 04:49 AM   #57 
  - Here's an article in Spanish I just ran through google translation:  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 03:20 PM   #4 
     - how many posts before it becomes  mitchtv   Feb-07-09 03:43 PM   #6 
     - Truly! It's just a matter of time. Chavez actually told Correa to do this.  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 03:55 PM   #9 
     - Ah, ha ha ha ha. They've already started. Just found an article trying to lead readers to that  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 09:47 PM   #37 
     - It looks like he was trying to buy the position of the head of the smuggling unit  EFerrari   Feb-07-09 03:56 PM   #10 
        - sounds more like: we'll take your money but don't tell us what to do with it n/t  Bacchus39   Feb-07-09 04:29 PM   #20 
           - Really? Please share your insight.  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 05:10 PM   #24 
           - well, there is this from OP  Bacchus39   Feb-07-09 05:14 PM   #25 
              - I don't see where it says that Correa still wanted the money. Try again.  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 05:20 PM   #27 
                 - A President who informs the US that he wants them out of the Manta Air Base is not a president who's  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 05:28 PM   #28 
                 - "Odd how some people interpret things which are absolutely clear to everyone else, isn't it?"  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 05:54 PM   #31 
                 - the money was withdrawn by the US agent. that is when he was expelled. n/t  Bacchus39   Feb-07-09 05:33 PM   #29 
                    - How does that prove your point ? (nt)  scarletwoman   Feb-07-09 05:57 PM   #32 
           - Yeah  tama   Feb-08-09 02:57 AM   #43 
  - Ecuador's President Rafael Correa expels US official Armando Astorga |  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 03:13 PM   #3 
  - Glad some countries can see the light at the end of our tunnel vision.  earcandle   Feb-07-09 03:34 PM   #5 
     - Bush's Latin American policy was so crude it was hard for them to miss, apparently.  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 04:18 PM   #15 
  - Sounds like a Bushwhack appointee who was given instructions to be an asshole,  Peace Patriot   Feb-07-09 03:48 PM   #7 
  - Astorga was trying to insert a plant. What an idiot.  EFerrari   Feb-07-09 04:00 PM   #11 
  - You're so right: he found them very quickly after Uribe invaded Ecuador last year.  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 04:02 PM   #12 
  - "Foreign Minister, give this man 48 hours to pack his suitcases and get out of the  bluesmail   Feb-07-09 05:43 PM   #30 
  - Wouldn't come a moment too soon, either! n/t  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 06:07 PM   #34 
  - Judi  The abyss   Feb-07-09 08:00 PM   #35 
  - It's wonderful you've joined us, The abyss. It's exceptionally good there are some people here  Judi Lynn   Feb-07-09 09:23 PM   #36 
     - points south  The abyss   Feb-07-09 10:14 PM   #39 
  - We are probably going to see much more of this sort of thing because...  totodeinhere   Feb-07-09 10:01 PM   #38 
  - Agreed. The clear out will take a while. n/t  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 03:50 PM   #49 
  - Correa does Ecuador no favors by his pubic display of hotheadedness  Zorro   Feb-07-09 10:25 PM   #40 
  - LOL  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 12:56 AM   #42 
  - Looks as if my observations were close to the mark  Zorro   Feb-08-09 03:03 PM   #46 
     - Hilarous. Correa told them where to put their money  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 03:24 PM   #47 
  - Bull Pucky - it's time for nations to express their anger at the USA - stop kissing it's ass . .  ConcernedCanuk   Feb-08-09 11:41 AM   #44 
     - When your country's currency is the US dollar  Zorro   Feb-08-09 02:04 PM   #45 
        - Only you could describe a leader asserting the sovereignty of his country  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 03:40 PM   #48 
           - Petulance is no substitute for diplomacy  Zorro   Feb-08-09 03:51 PM   #50 
              - Cool. Two false premises in 30 words. n/t  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 03:54 PM   #51 
                 - Remaining willfully blind to the obvious  Zorro   Feb-08-09 04:58 PM   #52 
                    - Recognizing groundless assertion after assertion is a skill I have.  EFerrari   Feb-08-09 05:00 PM   #53 
                       - Actually, promoting groundless assertions seems to be your obsession  Zorro   Feb-08-09 08:00 PM   #54 
  - ttt  Blue_Tires   Feb-08-09 08:58 PM   #55 
  - Astorga bugged out  rabs   Feb-08-09 09:48 PM   #56 

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