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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 05:41 PM
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87. Same game different name
Let's see if there home based operations fade or morf into another name as well.

Iraq's government says it won't give Blackwater a license to operate in the country. So does that mean the firm's cadre of tattooed gunslingers will be gone from Iraq, forever? Not exactly.

Sure, Blackwater as a corporate entity probably won't be roaming the streets of Baghdad or Mosul for much longer. But the individual mercenaries who've been working for years in Iraq, serving as a Praetorian Guard for the State Department's diplomats those guys likely will be able to stay.

The State Department has a contract for "worldwide personal protective services" with three firms: Blackwater, DynCorp, and Triple Canopy. If Blackwater is no longer allowed to operate in Iraq, a lawyer steeped in the field tells Danger Room, there's no legal reason why the other two firms can't scoop up Blackwater's employees. "State simply issues a new task order to DynCorp or Triple Canopy, who turn around and hire some or all of Blackwater's employees," he says.

Which could prove to be more than a little problematic. More than any other private military firm in Iraq, Blackwater had a reputation for recklessness and violence. Think about the drunken Blackwater contractor, who killed a bodyguard of Iraq's vice president on Christmas Eve, 2007. Or the car full of people a Blackwater detail ran off the road, in September 2006. Or the Nisour Square shooting that left 17 dead, in September 2007. "If you think Blackwater culture is to blame, this kind of confounds that," the lawyer observes. morehttp://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/01/blackwater-bann.html
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  -State Department To Blackwater: You're Fired, Leave Iraq by May sabra  Jan-30-09 12:54 PM   #0 
  - Good news  maddezmom   Jan-30-09 12:55 PM   #1 
  - Elections have consequences!  SharonAnn   Jan-30-09 02:44 PM   #50 
     - Hehehe.Yeah.  jeff30997   Jan-30-09 03:39 PM   #67 
     - THEY WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO  HowHasItComeToThis   Jan-30-09 05:15 PM   #84 
        - And that fascist who owns Blackwater  Hayduke Lives   Jan-30-09 07:54 PM   #104 
           - Maybe "self-professed Christian"  Patchuli   Jan-31-09 01:48 AM   #118 
           - I know some assholes who are atheists,  Critters2   Jan-31-09 09:11 AM   #135 
              - I know a group that is exclusively assholes...  ImForGore   Jan-31-09 10:38 AM   #137 
                 - I's funny because it's true!  Critters2   Jan-31-09 10:50 AM   #139 
  - Thank God. Criminals in my book....n/t  monmouth   Jan-30-09 12:57 PM   #2 
  - Excellent!  Spazito   Jan-30-09 12:57 PM   #3 
  - .  Jamastiene   Jan-30-09 12:57 PM   #4 
  - booya!!! hot damn!!  Locrian   Jan-30-09 12:59 PM   #5 
  - I hope all Blackwater employees are laid off and refused entry into the USA.  LiberalFighter   Jan-30-09 01:02 PM   #6 
  - Ya think?  Blue Fire   Jan-30-09 02:46 PM   #51 
  - That was my first thought too.  Raksha   Jan-30-09 03:21 PM   #62 
  - You are being too tough on Blackwater  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:02 AM   #121 
  - Isn't it the case that when most folks are fired, they are walked to the door  jhrobbins   Jan-30-09 04:28 PM   #79 
  - Yes by all means lets deprive them of all of their Constitutional rights without due process.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-30-09 07:42 PM   # 
  - Yes by all means lets deprive them of all of their Constitutional rights without due process.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-30-09 07:42 PM   #103 
     - Start the prosecution from the top.  Duende azul   Jan-30-09 08:43 PM   #106 
     - Go ahead.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-30-09 09:14 PM   #110 
     - They are getting..  sendero   Jan-31-09 08:52 AM   #134 
        - Denying them entry into the country would not be due process.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Feb-01-09 02:56 AM   #145 
  - False headline by the OP  bamalib   Jan-30-09 01:04 PM   #7 
  - either way--it's good news.n/t  orleans   Jan-30-09 01:06 PM   #8 
  - You can be VERY sure if the repubs were in power....  Spazito   Jan-30-09 01:12 PM   #14 
  - Exactly  Hippo_Tron   Jan-30-09 04:07 PM   #73 
  - you can be even MORE sure...  zogtheobvious   Jan-30-09 05:20 PM   #85 
  - The headline is correct  Tempest   Jan-30-09 01:14 PM   #15 
  - You have a problem with Blackwater being thrown out of Iraq on their collective ass?  DainBramaged   Jan-30-09 02:00 PM   #37 
  - Yeah, I have a problem with it!  Raksha   Jan-30-09 03:26 PM   #63 
     - Huh, they already have a large presence in NC.  HillbillyBob   Jan-30-09 05:04 PM   #82 
     - Actually, now that there's a new administration in Washington,  salguine   Jan-30-09 05:57 PM   #90 
        - take action note..very very good idea..needs to be addressed before May..nt  xiamiam   Jan-30-09 10:17 PM   #115 
        - That needs to be put on Obama's new .gov website en masse.  loudsue   Jan-31-09 12:04 AM   #117 
        - AMEN. From your keyboard to God's eyes. nt  Hekate   Jan-31-09 03:31 AM   #120 
        - I want the same. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:04 AM   #122 
     - You make a GREAT point, not like many onthers here who defend them  DainBramaged   Jan-30-09 05:26 PM   #86 
     - Sorry, US send them, will have to take them back.  Duende azul   Jan-30-09 08:35 PM   #105 
        - Duende azul  Diclotican   Jan-31-09 08:08 AM   #129 
           - Oh, sorry. I was trying to be sarcastic.  Duende azul   Jan-31-09 07:29 PM   #140 
              - Duende azul  Diclotican   Jan-31-09 07:48 PM   #141 
                 - Youre right,  Duende azul   Jan-31-09 08:45 PM   #142 
                    - Duende azul  Diclotican   Feb-01-09 06:16 PM   #147 
  - Exactly. Dont think there is not another Goon Squad  Speciesamused   Jan-30-09 07:41 PM   #102 
  - The headline comes from the article verbatim, per rules of this forum  No Elephants   Jan-31-09 03:28 AM   #119 
  - Good. These people are fucking dangerous.  TheWraith   Jan-30-09 01:08 PM   #9 
  - Hallelujah! This is truly wonderful news! Blackwater = Terror and treachery!  1776Forever   Jan-30-09 01:11 PM   #10 
  - Good news, but, what are they going to do (over here) now?  pleah   Jan-30-09 01:11 PM   #11 
  - I don't want those bald-headed baby fuckers anywhere near this country again.  EnviroBat   Jan-30-09 02:24 PM   #46 
  - Here, here!  pleah   Jan-30-09 02:33 PM   #49 
  - I have a different view.  gorfle   Jan-30-09 08:46 PM   #107 
  - Sorry, I don't agree.  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:12 AM   #123 
     - Get a real job?  gorfle   Jan-31-09 10:12 PM   #143 
        - I don't go for ideologically  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 11:38 PM   #144 
  - Jesus. Isn't there enough trash sunk in that poor ocean already?  Jackpine Radical   Jan-30-09 09:57 PM   #113 
  - They're going to be Bush's hired goons for when his SS detail expires in 2019.  NYC Liberal   Jan-30-09 04:12 PM   #76 
  - Yes!  katty   Jan-30-09 01:11 PM   #12 
  - Not enough.  bvar22   Jan-30-09 01:11 PM   #13 
  - Waxman brought this up last March '08 - nothing since then. Links here....  1776Forever   Jan-30-09 01:20 PM   #18 
  - Yup!! n/t  ejbr   Jan-30-09 04:20 PM   #78 
  - Next one to be FIRED from current & future Govt contracts should be KBR.  Blaze Diem   Jan-30-09 01:14 PM   #16 
  - Absolutely!  valerief   Jan-30-09 01:22 PM   #20 
  - Did you see this? Senators Request New KBR Investigation Jan. 8 ' 09 link.....  1776Forever   Jan-30-09 01:25 PM   #22 
  - Yep, more evidence this bunch is the same as the last bunch, eh?  Still Sensible   Jan-30-09 01:18 PM   #17 
  - This is the second A+ in my book, the first was saying he wanted Gitmo closed in a year.  sarcasmo   Jan-30-09 03:10 PM   #59 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-30-09 01:20 PM   #19 
  - The cost to buy out their contract would be exorbitant.  GentryDixon   Jan-30-09 02:02 PM   #39 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-30-09 02:22 PM   #44 
  - No they can't ......  Swede Atlanta    Jan-30-09 03:38 PM   #65 
     - Its been done before  Thothmes   Jan-30-09 07:29 PM   #99 
  - Now... what about war crimes?  Piewhacket   Jan-30-09 01:25 PM   #21 
  - Can we revoke their passports?  Baby Snooks   Jan-30-09 01:26 PM   #23 
  - They will be shifted elsewhere to do their dirty work.  balantz   Jan-30-09 01:27 PM   #24 
  - No. That doesn't sound right. This contract is eliminated, not shifted. (nt)  w4rma   Jan-30-09 01:29 PM   #27 
  - The Iraq contract will be terminated  balantz   Jan-30-09 01:50 PM   #31 
     - too true.  kenfrequed   Jan-30-09 02:13 PM   #40 
     - I imagine he knows his place and wouldn't overstep unless instructed to. n/t  balantz   Jan-30-09 02:15 PM   #41 
     - I don't want them "used" in my name. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:14 AM   #124 
  - dont they have another contract besides "protecting" diplomats?  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-30-09 04:01 PM   #72 
  - state department to blackwater: GTFO and FOAD  Blue_Tires   Jan-30-09 01:28 PM   #25 
  - If you think they are going away you are wrong.  jimmil   Jan-30-09 01:29 PM   #26 
  - The Kurds are hiring  Rambis   Jan-30-09 01:30 PM   #28 
  - Does this mean that the Republican party will pay Blackwater direct?  whistle   Jan-30-09 01:35 PM   #29 
  - No, they'll find another way to funnel public money to Blackwater.  jtrockville   Jan-30-09 01:53 PM   #33 
     - Who is "they'll"?  DainBramaged   Jan-30-09 02:01 PM   #38 
        - Referring back to whistle's OP: the GOP.  jtrockville   Jan-30-09 02:24 PM   #45 
           - The GOP is no longer in charge, no money will be funneled to them  DainBramaged   Jan-30-09 02:59 PM   #55 
              - The party does still exist (and maybe still has money).  jtrockville   Jan-30-09 05:05 PM   #83 
  - YAY  Joanne98   Jan-30-09 01:48 PM   #30 
  - a bad day for mercenaries  pjt7   Jan-30-09 01:51 PM   #32 
  - i really hope  barbtries   Jan-30-09 01:55 PM   #34 
  - I don't care where they go  florida08   Jan-30-09 01:58 PM   #35 
  - End of Mercenaries?  AlaskaVet   Jan-30-09 01:59 PM   #36 
  - Good!  EnviroBat   Jan-30-09 02:20 PM   #42 
  - WOO HOO! Go Hillary!  Wizard777   Jan-30-09 02:20 PM   #43 
  - Damn there's gonna be a lot of unemployed mercs  underpants   Jan-30-09 02:25 PM   #47 
  - Yes, how many jobs are there in the US for anybody?  siligut   Jan-30-09 02:53 PM   #53 
     - Well  underpants   Jan-30-09 03:01 PM   #56 
        - You should hide!  siligut   Jan-30-09 04:29 PM   #80 
  - Good News  kiloman   Jan-30-09 02:31 PM   #48 
  - The Bush gravy train is over, hit the road you thugs. Kick and Nom.  sarcasmo   Jan-30-09 02:50 PM   #52 
  - Somebody flipped a switch.  NM Independent   Jan-30-09 02:56 PM   #54 
  - Anybody else remember Iraq legally "kicking Blackwater out" in the spring of '08?  PassingFair   Jan-30-09 03:03 PM   #57 
  - What? We're gonna give em another $100 million before cancelling? Screw that  struggle4progress   Jan-30-09 03:09 PM   #58 
  - withhold the money to pay reparations.  Piewhacket   Jan-30-09 03:15 PM   #61 
     - I'm with you! nt  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:17 AM   #125 
  - I wonder if this will cause the company to go under... $1.2 billion  Endangered Specie   Jan-30-09 03:14 PM   #60 
  - No, Blackwater has a very expnsive training program  Thothmes   Jan-30-09 07:36 PM   #100 
  - Dayum I like this guy!! n/t  jhigley   Jan-30-09 03:27 PM   #64 
  - M$M spin: Massive layoffs spread to the private security industry  KamaAina   Jan-30-09 03:39 PM   #66 
  - "the controversial U.S. security company"  jeff30997   Jan-30-09 03:45 PM   #68 
  - Not the "M" word!  YOY   Jan-30-09 07:11 PM   #97 
  - Best news in 8 years!!!!  Sequoia   Jan-30-09 03:48 PM   #69 
  - Now watch them all run to Argentina to escape war crimes charges.  Chovexani   Jan-30-09 03:54 PM   #70 
  - Mexico needs border watchers get on down there you deadbeats! Cactus will find you most desireable!  lonestarnot   Jan-30-09 03:56 PM   #71 
  - But, but, where's the CHANGE?? There's no difference between Bush and Obama  Hippo_Tron   Jan-30-09 04:10 PM   #74 
  - None too soon & can't help but be good. These guys were loose cannons. n/t  pinto   Jan-30-09 04:10 PM   #75 
  - SWEET!! n/t  sandyj999   Jan-30-09 04:12 PM   #77 
  - YESSS!! Now arrest Erik Prince the nazi  HillbillyBob   Jan-30-09 04:36 PM   #81 
  - Same game different name  bonito   Jan-30-09 05:41 PM   #87 
  - Hooray! Good news! k&r  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-30-09 05:42 PM   #88 
  - Karma...  nradisic   Jan-30-09 05:51 PM   #89 
  - Huzzah!  FloridaJudy   Jan-30-09 06:10 PM   #91 
  - This is great news  liberal N proud   Jan-30-09 06:26 PM   #92 
  - They have found a new job in at home in the USA,  meuniermr   Jan-30-09 06:26 PM   #93 
  - This is the danger  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:19 AM   #126 
  - Yay!  HughMoran   Jan-30-09 06:42 PM   #94 
  - Damn good news. Mercenaries go home, standdown. nt  Mithreal   Jan-30-09 06:53 PM   #95 
  - Jeremy Scahill should be thanked for all the information he brought out about Blackwater.  20score   Jan-30-09 07:08 PM   #96 
  - Temporary meaning ....  tabasco   Jan-30-09 07:11 PM   #98 
  - YES YES YES.... Thanks OBAMA !!  lib2DaBone   Jan-30-09 07:39 PM   #101 
  - Now that it has started Blackwater will not be used  MadMaddie   Jan-30-09 09:02 PM   #108 
  - Outstanding and prosecute them for their crimes. Obama should ask Congress to increase Marine  jody   Jan-30-09 09:08 PM   #109 
  - woot!  AsahinaKimi   Jan-30-09 09:31 PM   #111 
  - So Jeremy Scahill's well-intended concerns perhaps led to this...  Helga Scow Stern   Jan-30-09 09:33 PM   #112 
  - Some other company  Abq_Sarah   Jan-30-09 10:02 PM   #114 
  - Mercenaries should be constitutionally banned  Hawkowl   Jan-30-09 10:40 PM   #116 
  - Insightful post, Hawkowl.  Enthusiast   Jan-31-09 04:22 AM   #127 
  - Why May? Why not right now?  lebkuchen   Jan-31-09 07:07 AM   #128 
  - probably to allow  iamthebandfanman   Jan-31-09 08:44 AM   #133 
  - Headline: Blackwater Undecided Whether to Fight or Merge With Somali Pirates  IDemo   Jan-31-09 08:31 AM   #130 
  - OMG!!!  morillon   Jan-31-09 08:32 AM   #131 
  - hey hey, thats some change i was lookin' for !  iamthebandfanman   Jan-31-09 08:41 AM   #132 
  - This is the good-news story of the day!  gauguin57   Jan-31-09 10:22 AM   #136 
  - On the one hand I suppose this is a good thing  RJ Connors   Jan-31-09 10:43 AM   #138 
  - Down with HESSIANS!  tom_paine   Feb-01-09 11:30 AM   #146 
 

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