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Fri Jan-30-09 05:41 PM
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| 87. Same game different name |
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Let's see if there home based operations fade or morf into another name as well.
Iraq's government says it won't give Blackwater a license to operate in the country. So does that mean the firm's cadre of tattooed gunslingers will be gone from Iraq, forever? Not exactly.
Sure, Blackwater as a corporate entity probably won't be roaming the streets of Baghdad or Mosul for much longer. But the individual mercenaries who've been working for years in Iraq, serving as a Praetorian Guard for the State Department's diplomats — those guys likely will be able to stay.
The State Department has a contract for "worldwide personal protective services" with three firms: Blackwater, DynCorp, and Triple Canopy. If Blackwater is no longer allowed to operate in Iraq, a lawyer steeped in the field tells Danger Room, there's no legal reason why the other two firms can't scoop up Blackwater's employees. "State simply issues a new task order to DynCorp or Triple Canopy, who turn around and hire some or all of Blackwater's employees," he says.
Which could prove to be more than a little problematic. More than any other private military firm in Iraq, Blackwater had a reputation for recklessness and violence. Think about the drunken Blackwater contractor, who killed a bodyguard of Iraq's vice president on Christmas Eve, 2007. Or the car full of people a Blackwater detail ran off the road, in September 2006. Or the Nisour Square shooting that left 17 dead, in September 2007. "If you think Blackwater culture is to blame, this kind of confounds that," the lawyer observes. morehttp://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/01/blackwater-bann.html
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| -State Department To Blackwater: You're Fired, Leave Iraq by May |
sabra |
Jan-30-09 12:54 PM |
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Good news |
maddezmom |
Jan-30-09 12:55 PM |
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Elections have consequences! |
SharonAnn |
Jan-30-09 02:44 PM |
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Hehehe.Yeah. |
jeff30997 |
Jan-30-09 03:39 PM |
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THEY WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO |
HowHasItComeToThis |
Jan-30-09 05:15 PM |
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And that fascist who owns Blackwater |
Hayduke Lives |
Jan-30-09 07:54 PM |
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Maybe "self-professed Christian" |
Patchuli |
Jan-31-09 01:48 AM |
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I know some assholes who are atheists, |
Critters2 |
Jan-31-09 09:11 AM |
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I know a group that is exclusively assholes... |
ImForGore |
Jan-31-09 10:38 AM |
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I's funny because it's true! |
Critters2 |
Jan-31-09 10:50 AM |
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Thank God. Criminals in my book....n/t |
monmouth |
Jan-30-09 12:57 PM |
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Excellent! |
Spazito |
Jan-30-09 12:57 PM |
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. |
Jamastiene |
Jan-30-09 12:57 PM |
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booya!!! hot damn!! |
Locrian |
Jan-30-09 12:59 PM |
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I hope all Blackwater employees are laid off and refused entry into the USA. |
LiberalFighter |
Jan-30-09 01:02 PM |
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Ya think? |
Blue Fire |
Jan-30-09 02:46 PM |
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That was my first thought too. |
Raksha |
Jan-30-09 03:21 PM |
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You are being too tough on Blackwater |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:02 AM |
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Isn't it the case that when most folks are fired, they are walked to the door |
jhrobbins |
Jan-30-09 04:28 PM |
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Yes by all means lets deprive them of all of their Constitutional rights without due process. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-30-09 07:42 PM |
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Yes by all means lets deprive them of all of their Constitutional rights without due process. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-30-09 07:42 PM |
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Start the prosecution from the top. |
Duende azul |
Jan-30-09 08:43 PM |
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Go ahead. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Jan-30-09 09:14 PM |
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They are getting.. |
sendero |
Jan-31-09 08:52 AM |
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Denying them entry into the country would not be due process. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Feb-01-09 02:56 AM |
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False headline by the OP |
bamalib |
Jan-30-09 01:04 PM |
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either way--it's good news.n/t |
orleans |
Jan-30-09 01:06 PM |
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You can be VERY sure if the repubs were in power.... |
Spazito |
Jan-30-09 01:12 PM |
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Exactly |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-30-09 04:07 PM |
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you can be even MORE sure... |
zogtheobvious |
Jan-30-09 05:20 PM |
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The headline is correct |
Tempest |
Jan-30-09 01:14 PM |
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You have a problem with Blackwater being thrown out of Iraq on their collective ass? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-30-09 02:00 PM |
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Yeah, I have a problem with it! |
Raksha |
Jan-30-09 03:26 PM |
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Huh, they already have a large presence in NC. |
HillbillyBob |
Jan-30-09 05:04 PM |
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Actually, now that there's a new administration in Washington, |
salguine |
Jan-30-09 05:57 PM |
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take action note..very very good idea..needs to be addressed before May..nt |
xiamiam |
Jan-30-09 10:17 PM |
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That needs to be put on Obama's new .gov website en masse. |
loudsue |
Jan-31-09 12:04 AM |
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AMEN. From your keyboard to God's eyes. nt |
Hekate |
Jan-31-09 03:31 AM |
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I want the same. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:04 AM |
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You make a GREAT point, not like many onthers here who defend them |
DainBramaged |
Jan-30-09 05:26 PM |
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Sorry, US send them, will have to take them back. |
Duende azul |
Jan-30-09 08:35 PM |
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Duende azul |
Diclotican |
Jan-31-09 08:08 AM |
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Oh, sorry. I was trying to be sarcastic. |
Duende azul |
Jan-31-09 07:29 PM |
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Duende azul |
Diclotican |
Jan-31-09 07:48 PM |
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You´re right, |
Duende azul |
Jan-31-09 08:45 PM |
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Duende azul |
Diclotican |
Feb-01-09 06:16 PM |
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Exactly. Dont think there is not another Goon Squad |
Speciesamused |
Jan-30-09 07:41 PM |
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The headline comes from the article verbatim, per rules of this forum |
No Elephants |
Jan-31-09 03:28 AM |
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Good. These people are fucking dangerous. |
TheWraith |
Jan-30-09 01:08 PM |
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Hallelujah! This is truly wonderful news! Blackwater = Terror and treachery! |
1776Forever |
Jan-30-09 01:11 PM |
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Good news, but, what are they going to do (over here) now? |
pleah |
Jan-30-09 01:11 PM |
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I don't want those bald-headed baby fuckers anywhere near this country again. |
EnviroBat |
Jan-30-09 02:24 PM |
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Here, here! |
pleah |
Jan-30-09 02:33 PM |
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I have a different view. |
gorfle |
Jan-30-09 08:46 PM |
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Sorry, I don't agree. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:12 AM |
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Get a real job? |
gorfle |
Jan-31-09 10:12 PM |
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I don't go for ideologically |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 11:38 PM |
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Jesus. Isn't there enough trash sunk in that poor ocean already? |
Jackpine Radical |
Jan-30-09 09:57 PM |
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They're going to be Bush's hired goons for when his SS detail expires in 2019. |
NYC Liberal |
Jan-30-09 04:12 PM |
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Yes! |
katty |
Jan-30-09 01:11 PM |
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Not enough. |
bvar22 |
Jan-30-09 01:11 PM |
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Waxman brought this up last March '08 - nothing since then. Links here.... |
1776Forever |
Jan-30-09 01:20 PM |
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Yup!! n/t |
ejbr |
Jan-30-09 04:20 PM |
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Next one to be FIRED from current & future Govt contracts should be KBR. |
Blaze Diem |
Jan-30-09 01:14 PM |
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Absolutely! |
valerief |
Jan-30-09 01:22 PM |
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Did you see this? Senators Request New KBR Investigation Jan. 8 ' 09 link..... |
1776Forever |
Jan-30-09 01:25 PM |
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Yep, more evidence this bunch is the same as the last bunch, eh? |
Still Sensible |
Jan-30-09 01:18 PM |
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This is the second A+ in my book, the first was saying he wanted Gitmo closed in a year. |
sarcasmo |
Jan-30-09 03:10 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-30-09 01:20 PM |
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The cost to buy out their contract would be exorbitant. |
GentryDixon |
Jan-30-09 02:02 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-30-09 02:22 PM |
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No they can't ...... |
Swede Atlanta |
Jan-30-09 03:38 PM |
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Its been done before |
Thothmes |
Jan-30-09 07:29 PM |
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Now... what about war crimes? |
Piewhacket |
Jan-30-09 01:25 PM |
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Can we revoke their passports? |
Baby Snooks |
Jan-30-09 01:26 PM |
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They will be shifted elsewhere to do their dirty work. |
balantz |
Jan-30-09 01:27 PM |
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No. That doesn't sound right. This contract is eliminated, not shifted. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jan-30-09 01:29 PM |
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The Iraq contract will be terminated |
balantz |
Jan-30-09 01:50 PM |
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too true. |
kenfrequed |
Jan-30-09 02:13 PM |
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I imagine he knows his place and wouldn't overstep unless instructed to. n/t |
balantz |
Jan-30-09 02:15 PM |
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I don't want them "used" in my name. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:14 AM |
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dont they have another contract besides "protecting" diplomats? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-30-09 04:01 PM |
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state department to blackwater: GTFO and FOAD |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-30-09 01:28 PM |
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If you think they are going away you are wrong. |
jimmil |
Jan-30-09 01:29 PM |
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The Kurds are hiring |
Rambis |
Jan-30-09 01:30 PM |
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Does this mean that the Republican party will pay Blackwater direct? |
whistle |
Jan-30-09 01:35 PM |
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No, they'll find another way to funnel public money to Blackwater. |
jtrockville |
Jan-30-09 01:53 PM |
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Who is "they'll"? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-30-09 02:01 PM |
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Referring back to whistle's OP: the GOP. |
jtrockville |
Jan-30-09 02:24 PM |
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The GOP is no longer in charge, no money will be funneled to them |
DainBramaged |
Jan-30-09 02:59 PM |
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The party does still exist (and maybe still has money). |
jtrockville |
Jan-30-09 05:05 PM |
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YAY |
Joanne98 |
Jan-30-09 01:48 PM |
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a bad day for mercenaries |
pjt7 |
Jan-30-09 01:51 PM |
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i really hope |
barbtries |
Jan-30-09 01:55 PM |
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I don't care where they go |
florida08 |
Jan-30-09 01:58 PM |
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End of Mercenaries? |
AlaskaVet |
Jan-30-09 01:59 PM |
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Good! |
EnviroBat |
Jan-30-09 02:20 PM |
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WOO HOO! Go Hillary! |
Wizard777 |
Jan-30-09 02:20 PM |
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Damn there's gonna be a lot of unemployed mercs |
underpants |
Jan-30-09 02:25 PM |
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Yes, how many jobs are there in the US for anybody? |
siligut |
Jan-30-09 02:53 PM |
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Well |
underpants |
Jan-30-09 03:01 PM |
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You should hide! |
siligut |
Jan-30-09 04:29 PM |
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Good News |
kiloman |
Jan-30-09 02:31 PM |
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The Bush gravy train is over, hit the road you thugs. Kick and Nom. |
sarcasmo |
Jan-30-09 02:50 PM |
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Somebody flipped a switch. |
NM Independent |
Jan-30-09 02:56 PM |
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Anybody else remember Iraq legally "kicking Blackwater out" in the spring of '08? |
PassingFair |
Jan-30-09 03:03 PM |
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What? We're gonna give em another $100 million before cancelling? Screw that |
struggle4progress |
Jan-30-09 03:09 PM |
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withhold the money to pay reparations. |
Piewhacket |
Jan-30-09 03:15 PM |
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I'm with you! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:17 AM |
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I wonder if this will cause the company to go under... $1.2 billion |
Endangered Specie |
Jan-30-09 03:14 PM |
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No, Blackwater has a very expnsive training program |
Thothmes |
Jan-30-09 07:36 PM |
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Dayum I like this guy!! n/t |
jhigley |
Jan-30-09 03:27 PM |
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M$M spin: Massive layoffs spread to the private security industry |
KamaAina |
Jan-30-09 03:39 PM |
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"the controversial U.S. security company" |
jeff30997 |
Jan-30-09 03:45 PM |
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Not the "M" word! |
YOY |
Jan-30-09 07:11 PM |
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Best news in 8 years!!!! |
Sequoia |
Jan-30-09 03:48 PM |
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Now watch them all run to Argentina to escape war crimes charges. |
Chovexani |
Jan-30-09 03:54 PM |
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Mexico needs border watchers get on down there you deadbeats! Cactus will find you most desireable! |
lonestarnot |
Jan-30-09 03:56 PM |
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But, but, where's the CHANGE?? There's no difference between Bush and Obama |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-30-09 04:10 PM |
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None too soon & can't help but be good. These guys were loose cannons. n/t |
pinto |
Jan-30-09 04:10 PM |
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SWEET!! n/t |
sandyj999 |
Jan-30-09 04:12 PM |
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YESSS!! Now arrest Erik Prince the nazi |
HillbillyBob |
Jan-30-09 04:36 PM |
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Same game different name |
bonito |
Jan-30-09 05:41 PM |
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Hooray! Good news! k&r |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-30-09 05:42 PM |
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Karma... |
nradisic |
Jan-30-09 05:51 PM |
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Huzzah! |
FloridaJudy |
Jan-30-09 06:10 PM |
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This is great news |
liberal N proud |
Jan-30-09 06:26 PM |
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They have found a new job in at home in the USA, |
meuniermr |
Jan-30-09 06:26 PM |
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This is the danger |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:19 AM |
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Yay! |
HughMoran |
Jan-30-09 06:42 PM |
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Damn good news. Mercenaries go home, standdown. nt |
Mithreal |
Jan-30-09 06:53 PM |
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Jeremy Scahill should be thanked for all the information he brought out about Blackwater. |
20score |
Jan-30-09 07:08 PM |
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Temporary meaning .... |
tabasco |
Jan-30-09 07:11 PM |
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YES YES YES.... Thanks OBAMA !! |
lib2DaBone |
Jan-30-09 07:39 PM |
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Now that it has started Blackwater will not be used |
MadMaddie |
Jan-30-09 09:02 PM |
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Outstanding and prosecute them for their crimes. Obama should ask Congress to increase Marine |
jody |
Jan-30-09 09:08 PM |
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woot! |
AsahinaKimi |
Jan-30-09 09:31 PM |
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So Jeremy Scahill's well-intended concerns perhaps led to this... |
Helga Scow Stern |
Jan-30-09 09:33 PM |
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Some other company |
Abq_Sarah |
Jan-30-09 10:02 PM |
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Mercenaries should be constitutionally banned |
Hawkowl |
Jan-30-09 10:40 PM |
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Insightful post, Hawkowl. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-31-09 04:22 AM |
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Why May? Why not right now? |
lebkuchen |
Jan-31-09 07:07 AM |
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probably to allow |
iamthebandfanman |
Jan-31-09 08:44 AM |
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Headline: Blackwater Undecided Whether to Fight or Merge With Somali Pirates |
IDemo |
Jan-31-09 08:31 AM |
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OMG!!! |
morillon |
Jan-31-09 08:32 AM |
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hey hey, thats some change i was lookin' for ! |
iamthebandfanman |
Jan-31-09 08:41 AM |
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This is the good-news story of the day! |
gauguin57 |
Jan-31-09 10:22 AM |
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On the one hand I suppose this is a good thing |
RJ Connors |
Jan-31-09 10:43 AM |
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Down with HESSIANS! |
tom_paine |
Feb-01-09 11:30 AM |
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