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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-08 09:30 PM
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2. since Billy Graham is retiring someone had to do it
shame it was this bigot
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  -Saddleback Pastor Rick Warren to speak at King memorial dwickham  Dec-22-08 09:27 PM   #0 
  - Yay, it's America's new Pastor!  Bluebear   Dec-22-08 09:29 PM   #1 
  - since Billy Graham is retiring someone had to do it  dwickham   Dec-22-08 09:30 PM   #2 
  - I don't think America can afford to feed Man-on-Pizza Rick Warren. n/t  IanDB1   Dec-23-08 06:38 AM   #44 
  - "... positive communication between the conservative movement  madeline_con   Dec-22-08 09:33 PM   #3 
  - that struck me as well  dwickham   Dec-22-08 09:35 PM   #4 
     - I see black gays kids take a lot of heat in the schools.  madeline_con   Dec-22-08 09:38 PM   #6 
     - how many black kids are kicked out of their homes for being black  dwickham   Dec-22-08 09:43 PM   #8 
        - True. :(  madeline_con   Dec-22-08 09:46 PM   #9 
        - How many black kids are kicked out of their homes for being gay  Karenina   Dec-23-08 03:32 AM   #25 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-23-08 08:02 PM   #61 
           - probably just as many white kids and brown kids and kids of all colors  dwickham   Dec-23-08 11:20 PM   #101 
     - Let's hear it for "the down-low"  Tangerine LaBamba   Dec-22-08 10:29 PM   #12 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-23-08 09:50 AM   #53 
     - My cousin....  bliss_eternal   Dec-23-08 06:44 PM   #58 
  - Yep I mean  dmallind   Dec-22-08 09:36 PM   #5 
  - Obama gave him the biggest stage  dwickham   Dec-22-08 09:42 PM   #7 
  - Ermmm no he didn't  dmallind   Dec-23-08 07:40 AM   #46 
     - Obama gave him the imprimatur of the Presidency. That is a legitimacy among  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 03:48 AM   #116 
  - Exactly. It's Obama's fault, never mind the millions of followers this man already had.  Number23   Dec-22-08 11:45 PM   #17 
     - No matter how many readers he had, a Democratic POT:US had never honored him. Until now.  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 05:57 AM   #28 
  - It's creepy  madamesilverspurs   Dec-22-08 09:51 PM   #10 
  - actually I would draw the line there  LynneSin   Dec-22-08 09:56 PM   #11 
     - Lots of religions do work around AIDS, including the Catholic church, fundies and  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:06 AM   #30 
        - Uh, yeah, the catholic church's AIDS work consists of them LYING to Africans about AIDS...  Zhade   Dec-23-08 06:14 AM   #33 
        - I didn't say that - I said that's one of the reasons fundies don't like him  LynneSin   Dec-23-08 06:25 AM   #40 
           - No one said you said that, whatever "that" refers to. My point was that AIDS ministries are very  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 07:10 AM   #45 
              - As I said and I hope this is a bit clearer  LynneSin   Dec-23-08 08:42 AM   #49 
                 - You are accusing me of reading shit into your posts when the reality is that you  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 03:58 AM   #117 
  - More of those, "I finally got mine. Screw You." civil rights dinosaurs joing anti-GLBTObama.  RCinBrooklyn   Dec-22-08 10:38 PM   #13 
  - Again, human rights are not the same as human opinions.  John Q. Citizen   Dec-22-08 11:18 PM   #14 
  - Did someone claim they were? Marriage between two adults who wish to marry each other is not  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 04:47 AM   #121 
  - Another great way to kill Obama before he gets started.  tomreedtoon   Dec-22-08 11:19 PM   #15 
  - He's doing it to himself  Pastiche423   Dec-23-08 12:29 AM   #19 
  - Hey. Obama done it to himself.  PFunk   Dec-23-08 12:42 AM   #21 
  - Oh, yes, you'll teach Obama a lesson, all right.  tomreedtoon   Dec-24-08 03:41 AM   #109 
  - "Killing?" A tad dramatic, right along with " incinerating" and knife. There are many steps  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:11 AM   #31 
  - You weren't around during the Clinton years, were you?  tomreedtoon   Dec-24-08 03:38 AM   #108 
     - Let's stick to the subject, which is not Monica. GLBT's worked for Clinton and he hung them out  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 04:05 AM   #118 
  - Um, he's legitmizing a BIGOT.  Zhade   Dec-23-08 06:15 AM   #34 
  - Not only legitimizing. Honoring. Lifting Up. Putting on him America's imprimatur.  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:16 AM   #35 
  - All I see is this, with one change:  tomreedtoon   Dec-24-08 03:20 AM   #107 
     - Then work on separating issues. It's not all one big plate of spaghetti. What  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 04:12 AM   #119 
  - Obama's doing the backstabbing.  Algorem   Dec-23-08 08:17 AM   #47 
  - Obama's fingers weren't on this knife.  tomreedtoon   Dec-24-08 03:19 AM   #106 
     - Neither were the fingers of the GLBT community. Also, you are coming to a  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 04:18 AM   #120 
  - Shame on you.  Bluebear   Dec-23-08 07:58 PM   #60 
  - On me? My fingers weren't on this knife.  tomreedtoon   Dec-24-08 03:08 AM   #105 
     - what a re-write of history  RainDog   Dec-24-08 06:49 AM   #110 
  - Scalpels have blades too  Sentath   Dec-24-08 10:15 AM   #111 
  - I was sad when the Kings rolled over for Bush, more than once.  roody   Dec-22-08 11:36 PM   #16 
  - It's sadder if they just rolled over for Obama.  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:17 AM   #37 
  - Darn. At a time when Gay rights really really need to be upheld because they're going backwards  superconnected   Dec-23-08 12:10 AM   #18 
  - I think the sign here is . . .  caseymoz   Dec-23-08 12:34 AM   #20 
  - If this is true then I see a backlash comming for the entire black community over this.  PFunk   Dec-23-08 12:45 AM   #22 
  - the repugs are dead  dwickham   Dec-23-08 01:24 AM   #24 
  - Just after you kick those who suffer the same discrimination as you do  Karenina   Dec-23-08 05:43 PM   #57 
     - no one suffers the same discrimination that the GLBT community does  dwickham   Dec-23-08 10:56 PM   #99 
     - Here's what I don't get Dwickham  Karenina   Dec-24-08 05:25 PM   #113 
     - Are you addressing that to members of the African American community or to members of the  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:20 AM   #126 
  - In hindsight, none of this is surprising.  caseymoz   Dec-23-08 10:53 PM   #98 
     - There are a few steps between being a champion of GLBT rights and placing the  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:00 AM   #123 
  - If Obama helps join them against GLBTs, ALL , Democrats will suffer. If even more African  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:22 AM   #38 
  - It can backfire. The more African Americans join with the religious right, the  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 04:56 AM   #122 
  - someone needs to catch this guy with a gay hooker SOON.  yurbud   Dec-23-08 12:57 AM   #23 
  - Or using the n word or otherwise signaling to his "congregation"  sfexpat2000   Dec-23-08 04:26 AM   #26 
  - Which guy? Obama, MLK III or Warren?  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:25 AM   #39 
  - If Obama had that issue, Hillary or the GOP would have brought it to light by now  yurbud   Dec-23-08 06:53 PM   #59 
  - Maybe food is his only vice.  roody   Dec-23-08 12:36 PM   #55 
  - Every time I see the name of Warren's church  pipoman   Dec-23-08 05:36 AM   #27 
  - Me, too. For the first second, I think the name of the movie was Saddleback Mountain.  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:26 AM   #41 
  - I wonder if Obama called MlK III and requested this, to help diffuse the heat Obama was  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:02 AM   #29 
  - Me too, but ONLY while Warren is speaking.  Zhade   Dec-23-08 06:17 AM   #36 
  - who does he pay off?  Algorem   Dec-23-08 06:14 AM   #32 
  - His church alone reportedly has 22,000 voters. And millions of readers think  No Elephants   Dec-23-08 06:28 AM   #42 
  - At least one of the King kids is anti-gay, but I forget which one. n/t  IanDB1   Dec-23-08 06:37 AM   #43 
  - It must be some sort of sick irony, but every time I see "Saddleback", my mind reads "Brokeback"  HopeHoops   Dec-23-08 08:22 AM   #48 
  - .  nc4bo   Dec-23-08 08:55 AM   #50 
  - Have Bob Herbert, Eugene Rosinson, etc. weighed in on the Inaugural thing?  TOJ   Dec-23-08 09:05 AM   #51 
  - It's Obama asking the King center to provide cover, IMO.  robcon   Dec-23-08 09:05 AM   #52 
  - It Seems  LeFleur1   Dec-23-08 10:04 AM   #54 
     - I don't know. Jews supported African Americans civil rights very strongly until the two  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:11 AM   #124 
  - The King who said "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"?!  KamaAina   Dec-23-08 03:05 PM   #56 
  - Rick Warren to be main speaker at Ebenezer on King Day  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #62 
  - I wonder what his fee is.  TomInTib   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #63 
  - King's daughter campaigned FOR Proposition 8. nt  MookieWilson   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #64 
  - Damn  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #65 
  - No shit??  ronnykmarshall   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #66 
  - Ouch.  KamaAina   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #70 
  - And Coretta Scott King was for full gay rights equality  dbackjon   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #79 
     - Yes, she does. Not the first famous offspring to do that. nt  MookieWilson   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #89 
  - Yes, yes. It's all Obama's fault.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #67 
  - An unfortunate side effect of Obama's putrid selection  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #69 
  - I blame Melissa Etheridge.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #71 
     - She is pitching a new CD. That's probably more real to her right now  sfexpat2000   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #90 
  - If Obama had nothing to gain from it, he would have chosen someone else.  sfexpat2000   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #78 
  - Yeah, yeah.  Bornaginhooligan   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #86 
     - That may be a little true, granted. But not in the main.  sfexpat2000   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #87 
     - Strikes me as strange  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #92 
        - Not everybody here is a progressive.  QC   Dec-24-08 08:32 PM   #114 
           - I am a centrist who is very pro-gay marriage. Being a centrist does not equal being a bigot.  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:22 AM   #127 
     - You mean, like gaining their own equal rights? You put that in the same class with pandering for  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:49 AM   #130 
  - STRAW MAN. The issue is having a Democratic, African American POTUS give the biggest honor he  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:17 AM   #125 
  - Man fuck this shit. Why is this bastard being blended into mainstream democracy?  nc4bo   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #68 
  - Mainstream oligarchy, you mean.  ryanmuegge   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #82 
  - One big happy family...  Baby Snooks   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #72 
  - goodness...  Obamalution   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #75 
  - So that like offsets having a homphobe give the invocation?  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #76 
  - People seem to think it's like math: 1 + -1 = 0, so it's a wash. n/t  QC   Dec-24-08 08:34 PM   #115 
  - Why not Jeremiah Wright?  Baby Snooks   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #77 
  - I agree. Obama didn't have the stones  truth2power   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #97 
     - I think--HOPE--that Obama already rues it. But, he is not backing down. To  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:59 AM   #132 
  - We're not distracted or divided  AlbertCat   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #96 
  - Each and all of your points have been blown away on many other threads. I don't know if  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:40 AM   #129 
  - uggh. go away with that nonsense! nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Dec-23-08 11:32 PM   #103 
  - The Purpose Driven Life? Is that like that Osteen's feel-good type book?  Roland99   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #73 
  - They've been embraced by him as well..  Baby Snooks   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #74 
  - Please tell me you are not trying to compare the two of them...  demdog78   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #85 
     - You apparently haven't encountered a member of his church...  Baby Snooks   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #91 
     - Jesus says not to be judgmental at all, but the Southern Baptist Seminary President says  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:54 AM   #131 
  - This is the first time that I have opined on this particular point.........  pattmarty   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #80 
  - That rationale doesn't make sense to me  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #94 
  - I don't have to wait a year to conclude this choice was a mistake. And you  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 06:10 AM   #133 
  - Feminists - we have to start 3000 threads on DU stating we're  treestar   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #81 
  - Well, he side-stepped the abortion debate in Illinois. nt  MookieWilson   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #88 
  - We'd be perfectly justified  Truth Teller   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #93 
  - Posts like this are what leads to one group going against the other, saying  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 06:19 AM   #134 
  - He would have been calling for King to be lynched if this was 1968  ryanmuegge   Dec-23-08 08:13 PM   #83 
  - We shall overcome.  RedCloud   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #84 
  - I just wrote a rather sharp piece on LGBTQ movt insensitivity toward African-Americans; well ...  cloudythescribbler   Dec-23-08 08:14 PM   #95 
     - One church doesn't represent all of black america  Truth Hurts A Lot   Dec-23-08 11:35 PM   #104 
  - I just watched the Rachel Maddow Show  newspeak   Dec-23-08 11:13 PM   #100 
  - Warren holds to all the positions of the Southern Baptist Convention.  mycritters2   Dec-24-08 10:28 AM   #112 
  - Because they couch it in terms of men treating women like Jesus treats his bride, the Church. Neo  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 05:29 AM   #128 
  - Believing only one morally bankrupt thing and being morally correct on everything  No Elephants   Dec-26-08 06:27 AM   #135 
  - huh? What the hell is going on? Warren is not welcome  Truth Hurts A Lot   Dec-23-08 11:30 PM   #102 
  - Bernice must have invited him  marshall   Dec-26-08 07:40 AM   #136 

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