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Thu Dec-18-08 01:38 AM
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| 63. I would have no problem with anyone getting up and talking about unity |
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Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:39 AM by nothingtoofear
Or peace and love and all that jazz. If they wanted to talk about antisemitism or so on, I'd say no thanks, that's not where I'd like to go with this, etc. The fact is that he will be reading a prepared remark and I some how doubt that it will include said bigotry. I've made my views clear on why he was chosen in other places, feel free to search them out if you will. It's getting late, I'd rather not repost. Regardless, I don't see bigots I see bigotry. I believe that a person is capable of -- say -- hating gay people (like myself) and yet still want to see the United States unite in peace and love and all that jazz just the same as I believe that I can like and even possibly enjoy the company of a Republican, or a theist, or, dare I say, a straight person, all of whom believe concretely in something vastly different from what I believe in.
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| -Gay activists furious with Obama |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-17-08 06:53 PM |
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this hetero woman is also FURIOUS. This is a HUGE slap in the face to progressives. |
peacebird |
Dec-17-08 06:55 PM |
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Me too. |
netania99 |
Dec-17-08 07:09 PM |
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We're not the oppositon anymore - but it's a hard habit to break isn't it? |
crikkett |
Dec-18-08 02:52 PM |
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"...slap in face..." |
unkachuck |
Dec-17-08 08:14 PM |
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You're wrong. |
Walter Sobchak |
Dec-17-08 10:02 PM |
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BULL CRAP! |
TankLV |
Dec-17-08 10:58 PM |
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You've largely marginalized yourselves. |
fjc |
Dec-18-08 10:47 AM |
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I'm centrist, but maybe you have the cart before the horse. Maybe the complaining is bc |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:27 PM |
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Yes, one place. |
fjc |
Dec-18-08 01:00 PM |
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Fuck you - asshole... |
TankLV |
Dec-18-08 12:33 PM |
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Thanks for confirming my point. |
fjc |
Dec-18-08 12:57 PM |
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Obama put his cards on the table before the election |
marshall |
Dec-18-08 08:09 AM |
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Warren is not simply anti-gay marriage, though. He is anti-gay, period. And anti-choice. And anti |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:25 PM |
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Damn straight (pardon the pun) |
AnnieBW |
Dec-17-08 08:25 PM |
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You know, someone who actively SUPPORTED Obama? |
AlbertCat |
Dec-17-08 09:42 PM |
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Dawkins is clearly a bright man. |
fjc |
Dec-18-08 10:50 AM |
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Perhaps. But he is CORRECT |
tkmorris |
Dec-19-08 05:41 AM |
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Yes, all opinions are equal, because they are all opinions. |
fjc |
Dec-19-08 09:52 AM |
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It's a slap to all Democrats. I am a hetero female and consider myself centrist. I am livid. |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 03:51 AM |
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Obama is not a progressive. I am a little taken back at |
JeanGrey |
Dec-18-08 02:10 PM |
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I have to tell you, that was a major disappointment. |
PDJane |
Dec-17-08 06:55 PM |
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Democrats need to stop cowtowing to the whacko fundie hatemongering |
Lorien |
Dec-17-08 06:57 PM |
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This action is not cowtowing. It is outright promotion and endorsement of hatred and bigotry |
Robbien |
Dec-18-08 08:20 AM |
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This Breeder Thinks This Is Not The Brightest Thing Obama's Done |
MannyGoldstein |
Dec-17-08 06:57 PM |
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I hope everybody attending the Inaugural carries signs telling Rick Warren to go to Hell. |
mnhtnbb |
Dec-17-08 07:04 PM |
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Or shoes |
tblue |
Dec-17-08 07:09 PM |
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That would certainly be a classy thing to do |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-18-08 09:03 AM |
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Well, I remember his critics warning us this would happen about six months ago. |
Deep13 |
Dec-17-08 07:08 PM |
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First, I don't consider Tricky Dick an Evangelical. He has |
tsuki |
Dec-17-08 07:08 PM |
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Obama is showing that he is a WIMP! |
Riverman |
Dec-17-08 07:13 PM |
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this is going to far - slapping us for being sane people n/t |
28erl |
Dec-17-08 07:15 PM |
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Can't Stand the jerk |
jetphixer |
Dec-17-08 07:19 PM |
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I'm straight and fucking pissed off. n/t |
Chimpys_Last_Stand |
Dec-17-08 07:22 PM |
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We don't give the Mormon Church a pass for Prop 8, why should we give Obama a pass for Warren? |
IndianaGreen |
Dec-17-08 07:22 PM |
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I agree a thousand percent that this is the dumbest thing |
az chela |
Dec-17-08 10:42 PM |
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Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-17-08 07:22 PM |
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Yes Indeed! Wonder why some are so shocked? |
Blue State Native |
Dec-18-08 08:20 AM |
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You would think that this country, |
bitchkitty |
Dec-17-08 07:24 PM |
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I (hetero) donate and have demonstrated for gay marriage. But Warren is not only anti-gay. He is |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 03:58 AM |
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There is no reason for this |
ejbr |
Dec-17-08 07:34 PM |
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This is too much |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-17-08 07:39 PM |
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He's pandering with this choice |
silverojo |
Dec-17-08 10:50 PM |
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He isn't pandering, he is doing exactly what he said he would do while running for president n/t |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Dec-17-08 11:09 PM |
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He said he would consort with hateful bigots? |
Zhade |
Dec-18-08 12:23 AM |
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no, he said he would reach out and try to find common ground with everybody |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Dec-18-08 12:36 AM |
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Exactly... |
nothingtoofear |
Dec-18-08 01:41 AM |
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Finding common ground with everybody does NOT imply giving Warren a huge honor. Besides, look at |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 04:02 AM |
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Then find an evangelical leader who is not known |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-18-08 06:53 AM |
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Yes, let's reach out to all bigots. Let the KKK cater the inauguration! |
Ignis |
Dec-18-08 12:43 PM |
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Even if that means fucking us who put him in office up the ass? |
Leftest |
Dec-18-08 03:54 PM |
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Um, no. He never said he would choose Warren for the invocation. |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 03:59 AM |
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Here's a pissed off straight man too n/t |
Truth Teller |
Dec-17-08 07:55 PM |
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. |
SillyFlower |
Dec-17-08 07:55 PM |
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A stupid decision. Why, B, WHY ??? |
AzDar |
Dec-17-08 08:04 PM |
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Im really disappointed in Obama... |
iamincali83 |
Dec-17-08 08:11 PM |
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It's even worse than this article suggests. |
Vattel |
Dec-17-08 08:15 PM |
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Sigh. You see what he's trying to do, right? |
truthisfreedom |
Dec-17-08 08:20 PM |
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so I take it you would support Obama if he invited a Klansman to speak? |
Mari333 |
Dec-17-08 08:28 PM |
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Yep. Warren is anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-First Amendment and anti Democrats. TRAVESTY. |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 04:08 AM |
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I agree, |
Vattel |
Dec-17-08 08:30 PM |
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small rant |
Mari333 |
Dec-17-08 08:42 PM |
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Civil rights are civil rights, whether it's women, minorities or gays. But, my objections to Warren |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 04:12 AM |
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How About Throwing Progressives A Bone Once In A While? |
wellst0nev0ter |
Dec-17-08 08:33 PM |
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Given the amount of money and time the left gave to his campaign |
dflprincess |
Dec-17-08 09:28 PM |
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Throwing bones (my rant) |
AlbertCat |
Dec-17-08 09:59 PM |
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You've described pandering. There was NO need to do that. He could have chosen someone less |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 04:06 AM |
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E-MAIL Campaign Time - No, no, no, and no - in that order. Yes We Can! |
HopeHoops |
Dec-17-08 08:28 PM |
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Does the Labor nomination mean anything? |
Hekate |
Dec-17-08 08:35 PM |
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If it happens, it's great, but one thing does not negate the other. Besides, you seem to want to |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:35 PM |
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Get over it people |
benh57 |
Dec-17-08 08:58 PM |
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It's time for apologists to drop dead. Obama has shown a pattern of lying and disrespect. Fuck him. |
RCinBrooklyn |
Dec-17-08 09:08 PM |
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What specific lies has he told? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-17-08 09:15 PM |
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Against Fise. Against Offshre drilling. Against Bush Tax Cuts... |
RCinBrooklyn |
Dec-18-08 12:10 PM |
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Let's be clear: he's angering mor than gay activists with this latest swipe at LGBT rights. |
RCinBrooklyn |
Dec-18-08 12:11 PM |
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so if he invites the KKK to speak |
Mari333 |
Dec-17-08 09:28 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-17-08 11:02 PM |
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Seomthing is not meaningless just bc you say it is. We don't want hating bigots honored. Get over |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:38 PM |
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Well he finally pissed me off |
RamboLiberal |
Dec-17-08 09:35 PM |
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Is it important that you state for the record that you are straight? |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-17-08 09:53 PM |
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It has more impact coming from a straight man |
Nevernose |
Dec-17-08 10:16 PM |
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I agree and I posted that civil rights are civil rights, whether we are talking women, minorities or |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 05:42 AM |
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Meanwhile, on another thread, posters are mocking and slamming the gay posters here for being |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 10:27 AM |
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ok - honestly was just a question. I was actually neutral on the subject |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-18-08 10:34 AM |
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You jusrt asked a question and I just gave you my answers. No worries, Lucky. |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 10:49 AM |
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Warren is also anti-choice,which is just as repugnant. I do not get |
MasonJar |
Dec-17-08 09:40 PM |
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This is what I feared from the first time I saw Obama. |
Proletariatprincess |
Dec-17-08 09:42 PM |
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why nader over kucinich? |
subsuelo |
Dec-17-08 10:00 PM |
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You feared this the first time you SAW him? |
nothingtoofear |
Dec-17-08 11:34 PM |
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I can't fucking believe this. |
Zhade |
Dec-17-08 09:52 PM |
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Why can't you beleive this? Do you not remember Donnie McClurkin? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-17-08 10:16 PM |
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THAT's that assholes name - thanks - I forgot... |
TankLV |
Dec-17-08 11:04 PM |
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Fuck off, Stubbs -- now is not the fucking time. |
Zhade |
Dec-18-08 12:24 AM |
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When is the time? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-18-08 07:11 AM |
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Now IS the time. |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:41 PM |
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But some of his best frineds are gay- |
gorbal |
Dec-17-08 10:02 PM |
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what a total creep!!! can you imagine being married to someone like that? |
Mari333 |
Dec-17-08 10:23 PM |
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So, is being born gay the second worst sin? The third? The fourth? Please, Rick, enlighten us. |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:45 PM |
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WTF?! THis shit has GOT to STOP NOW! I'm FURIOUS, too! |
TankLV |
Dec-17-08 10:57 PM |
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Wow good thing the party isn't represented by DU... |
nothingtoofear |
Dec-17-08 11:36 PM |
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So you're okay with bigots? Would you be okay with a Klansmen speaking too? |
Zhade |
Dec-18-08 12:25 AM |
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I would have no problem with anyone getting up and talking about unity |
nothingtoofear |
Dec-18-08 01:38 AM |
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I would just like to thank you for your post. |
Col Jack D Ripper |
Dec-18-08 10:49 AM |
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You're welcome |
nothingtoofear |
Dec-18-08 10:59 AM |
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Gay activists are not the only ones who are furious. I am a hetero female and |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 03:50 AM |
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Can no one see the big picture? |
FlaGranny |
Dec-18-08 04:50 AM |
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Neo theos will NEVER support a candidate who is pro-choice or pro-gay |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 05:32 AM |
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Good, the fundies can tune in. because I now have NO desire to watch. |
Bluebear |
Dec-18-08 06:02 AM |
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This is a slap in the face. I'm really upset by this. |
myrna minx |
Dec-18-08 04:50 AM |
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Make your |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 05:26 AM |
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Did that last night. n/t |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-18-08 06:55 AM |
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Good! |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 10:59 AM |
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Thank you for posting how to make my voice heard |
dyancollingsralph |
Dec-19-08 03:51 AM |
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Obama has invited a religious person |
Jawja |
Dec-18-08 06:13 AM |
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Amen to that. nt |
Deep13 |
Dec-18-08 09:00 AM |
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I am not an atheist, but I agree with you. I am for strict separation of church and state. However |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 10:21 AM |
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Terribly disappointing |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-18-08 10:10 AM |
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I have not seen or heard any explanations from Obama yet. Do you have a link? |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 10:17 AM |
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No, he was just asked a question on TV while |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-18-08 10:29 AM |
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Thanks. I'll google. The real explanation is fairly obvious, I think. Warren is a best selling |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 10:52 AM |
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That's where I am, too |
JerseygirlCT |
Dec-18-08 12:34 PM |
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Just Building Bridges |
BukaHobbit |
Dec-18-08 10:37 AM |
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Did you forget the sarcasm icon? |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 11:01 AM |
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. |
nolabels |
Dec-18-08 11:45 AM |
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The last several weeks have been rough on gay activists |
slackmaster |
Dec-18-08 10:53 AM |
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Warren may be the only evangelical minister he could find who isn't |
crikkett |
Dec-18-08 11:05 AM |
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Why does the person who gives the invocation have to be an evangelical again? What's |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:20 PM |
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You know what, IT'S NOT MY CALL! |
crikkett |
Dec-18-08 02:27 PM |
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I would bet that I worked as many hours and contributed as much to help Obama get elected |
No Elephants |
Dec-19-08 04:55 AM |
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God bliss Obama's choice! |
JohnAB |
Dec-18-08 11:07 AM |
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CEO of the Inaugural Committee is named Emmett Beliveau. His number is 202-203-1715 or emmett@pic200 |
RCinBrooklyn |
Dec-18-08 12:17 PM |
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Thanks RC. Not sure which Inaugural Committee you mean. Is he |
No Elephants |
Dec-18-08 12:51 PM |
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Good. |
jaredh |
Dec-18-08 04:05 PM |
#127 |
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I just unsubscribed from barackobama.com |
dyancollingsralph |
Dec-19-08 03:41 AM |
#128 |
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