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Tue Dec-16-08 04:14 PM
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| 101. A year ago Madoff gave a lecture on regs saying "It's virtually impossible to violate rules" |
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At a conference in October of 2007, Bernard Madoff discusses regulation and algorithmic trading where he ironically states, "It's virtually impossible to violate rules in today's regulatory environment." Here is an excerpt from the interview where he talks about the Chinese walls—separating proprietary trading from trading for investors—that are carefully enforced. He also talks about how the general public thinks everyone is violating rules, but he contends the infractions are very small compared to the volumes of trades the market. This was well before it was uncovered that his firm, Bernard Madoff Investment Securities, was charged with fraud for creating a giant Ponzi scheme that allegedly lost $50 billion in investors' money. http://www.advancedtrading.com/regulations/showArticle.... There is a video of Madoff's lecture at the link.
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| -STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday December 16 |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:35 AM |
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Market WrapUp |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:39 AM |
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Today's Reports |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:41 AM |
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U.S. Nov. housing starts fall 18.9% to 625,000 annual rate - lowest on record |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 07:35 AM |
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U.S. Nov. housing starts plunge 18.9% to record low |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 07:58 AM |
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Here in Michigan banks are giving houses away when you open a new checking account. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 02:31 PM |
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I'll keep that in mind. |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 02:44 PM |
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U.S. consumer prices fall 1.7% vs. 1.4% drop expected (can anyone say "deflation"?) |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 07:59 AM |
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CPI slide steepest since '32 |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 09:04 AM |
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Ufff. n/t |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 08:33 AM |
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RPT-TABLE-US chain store sales fell 1.4 pct last week |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:15 AM |
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U.S. Nov. trimmed CPI flat, up 2.7% in past year |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 10:40 AM |
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FOMC cuts fed funds rate to range of 0% to 0.25% (someone hold my hair, please?) |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 01:25 PM |
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Oil prices rise above $45 ahead of OPEC meeting |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:42 AM |
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Fed ready to slash rates amid deepening recession |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:45 AM |
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World markets climb before expected Fed rate cut |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:47 AM |
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Yes. Europe shares up after euro zone PMI, UK inflation |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 06:04 AM |
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Cadbury warns of slower growth as downturn bites |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 06:09 AM |
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"downturn bites?" |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 02:36 PM |
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Heh. You've got a sense of (maybe a bit dry, twisted, on account of 'history') |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 03:04 PM |
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Shock waves spread from Madoff scandal |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:52 AM |
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Judge signs order to protect Madoff investors |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:53 AM |
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Should be an interesting test of the relatively young LLC moniker. We'll need to get the popcorn |
54anickel |
Dec-16-08 05:59 AM |
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They can claim up to $100,000 for their cash balances and up to $400,000 for any securities |
Robbien |
Dec-16-08 07:44 AM |
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The billionaire investors won't be happy with that. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 02:41 PM |
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Sweet |
tama |
Dec-16-08 08:33 AM |
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. |
machI |
Dec-17-08 05:28 AM |
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Hedge Fund Scam = tarbaby= the scam that keeps on taking n/t |
kickysnana |
Dec-16-08 07:49 AM |
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Ha! Firms are now rushing to let people know they were NOT invested in Madoff |
Robbien |
Dec-16-08 07:53 AM |
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Gee, I guess we need to check those companies next and find out why... |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 08:47 AM |
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Sometimes I think the whole stock market is a Ponzi scheme. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 02:47 PM |
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It certainly looks that way in the Markets current manifestation. |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 03:01 PM |
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Great minds think alike. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-16-08 04:11 PM |
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Good list, thanks for a start. |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 08:48 AM |
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Madoff case seen fueling attacks on the SEC (no regulation or investigation) |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:03 AM |
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Levitt Says S.E.C. Isn’t to Blame for Madoff |
Robbien |
Dec-16-08 08:27 AM |
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"Levitt is now an adviser to Carlyle Group." It takes one to know one I guess. |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 08:44 AM |
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Did this man ever see any 'inconvenient' evidence anywhere? |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 09:03 AM |
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Madoff 'Tragedy' Said to Have Escaped Scrutiny by SEC |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:36 AM |
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Haha! Does the current SEC scrutinize anyone? |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 08:40 AM |
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The Madoff Saga: Perils of Fraudulent Conveyance |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 09:26 AM |
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So the theme of lax regulation, or sleepy regulators, leading to financial disaster continues. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 02:50 PM |
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Looks like they're going for the 'lone gunman' theory here. |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 08:38 AM |
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"I wouldn't touch that area with a ten-foot barge-pole" |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 10:55 AM |
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No, think man! There has got to be a way to blame the Democrats! |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 03:16 PM |
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Heard on NPR |
TalkingDog |
Dec-16-08 02:03 PM |
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Stock futures mixed ahead of Goldman and Fed |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 04:58 AM |
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Debt: 12/12/2008 10,597,068,737,927.10 (DOWN 816,321,531.60) (.6 FICA, .2 public) |
Festivito |
Dec-16-08 06:08 AM |
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Debt: 12/15/2008 10,655,601,512,061.10 (UP 58,532,774,134.00) (Big again) |
Festivito |
Dec-16-08 02:40 PM |
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Worth re-quoting: |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 06:42 AM |
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"the future of our economy and national security is inextricably linked " with military spending |
kenzee13 |
Dec-16-08 06:55 AM |
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Hybrids and electric cars take us a step closer, but |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 07:26 AM |
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Thanks for the addition of some background. |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 08:55 AM |
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Yeah. Big question. Still very dangerous but we're putting a lot of international money |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 09:21 AM |
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Yeah, it ticks me off that the leading edge fusion research isn't in America. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 03:30 PM |
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We're all trying our best to work on it. Indeed. |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 03:56 PM |
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China and India: Suddenly vulnerable (last week's Economist Leader) |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 07:31 AM |
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Some of the comments there are... |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 08:36 AM |
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It's interesting that China is affected, too. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 03:35 PM |
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dollar watch |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 07:48 AM |
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Dollar falls ahead of Fed decision |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 09:42 AM |
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Goldman reports $3.6 Billion loss in trading and principal investments |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:01 AM |
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line item information: |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:25 AM |
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Goldman employee pay falls sharply in 2008 |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 09:46 AM |
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TREASURIES - 30Y yield sets record low after record CPI drop - Look Out Below! |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:14 AM |
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2.8 today |
tama |
Dec-16-08 03:36 PM |
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Best Buy posts lower net, looks to cut jobs |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:18 AM |
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Columbus, Oh - National Century Trial - Ex-client tells of his threat to tattle |
DemReadingDU |
Dec-16-08 08:23 AM |
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Thousands of layoffs by DHL, ABX Air hit Wilmington, Ohio |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:27 AM |
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9:43 EST doing the rate cut boogey! it's all good! |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 08:44 AM |
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Oh, joy! Goldman's losing money! All is right with the world! |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 08:49 AM |
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Measliest raises in 32 years on tap: survey |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 09:30 AM |
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Old joke .... |
AnneD |
Dec-16-08 12:13 PM |
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Now, we get called 'workers'; |
Ghost Dog |
Dec-16-08 12:17 PM |
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Aye, there's the rub. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 03:40 PM |
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A DUer recommended a must-read site for SMW denizens |
Danascot |
Dec-16-08 10:13 AM |
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Tansy.....here is something to gnaw on........... |
AnneD |
Dec-16-08 10:58 AM |
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This helps also. |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 11:14 AM |
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That brings me to a question |
burf |
Dec-16-08 12:27 PM |
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Thanks. When I get my paying work done. . . . . |
Tansy_Gold |
Dec-16-08 01:54 PM |
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Cutting back on law & enforcement isn't usually the best way to reduce bad behavior. |
snot |
Dec-16-08 03:01 PM |
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The key to preventing the next Madoff scheme is deregulating the antiquated web of securities laws? |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 03:54 PM |
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News you can really use........ |
AnneD |
Dec-16-08 11:59 AM |
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Credit card crackdown coming soon |
AnneD |
Dec-16-08 12:18 PM |
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The Queen's Credit Crunch....... |
AnneD |
Dec-16-08 12:40 PM |
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everybody's got something to hide 'cept for me an my charred monkey meat |
AnneD |
Dec-16-08 12:52 PM |
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2:25 EST Yippie Freakin' Skippie! Free Money!!! |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 01:26 PM |
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Last hour up, up we go with lower rates |
CatholicEdHead |
Dec-16-08 02:42 PM |
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Fed speaks, Fed pumps: corruption continues unabated |
specimenfred1984 |
Dec-16-08 02:06 PM |
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My favorite dodge "I'm not even looking at my 401k" |
specimenfred1984 |
Dec-16-08 02:31 PM |
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I've heard that five times already, among my limited set of acquaintances. |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 03:05 PM |
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Are they passing out psychelics on Wall Street today? |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 02:47 PM |
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Fed slashes key rate to near zero (CNN) |
Prag |
Dec-16-08 03:12 PM |
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Nowhere to go but negative % now? |
CatholicEdHead |
Dec-16-08 03:37 PM |
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Yeah, a friend of mine just called and told me. |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 03:47 PM |
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This just in: Fed sets interest rate to the Square root of negative one. |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 04:01 PM |
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Damn! Where's my cipherin' machine? |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 04:02 PM |
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It's a math joke! |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 04:05 PM |
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As in: imaginary money? n/t |
tama |
Dec-16-08 04:07 PM |
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Today's Beetle Bailey |
antigop |
Dec-16-08 03:12 PM |
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Huffpo: Will The Madoff Debacle Finally End The "Who Could Have Known?" Era? |
specimenfred1984 |
Dec-16-08 03:46 PM |
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Hey, it's after 4! Where's my closing numbers? |
tclambert |
Dec-16-08 04:08 PM |
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A year ago Madoff gave a lecture on regs saying "It's virtually impossible to violate rules" |
Robbien |
Dec-16-08 04:14 PM |
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Madoff: " I'm very close with regulators, in fact, my niece married one". |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 05:28 PM |
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end of sucker-run-up day numbers |
UpInArms |
Dec-16-08 05:29 PM |
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Dow +359? Jeebus. Who honestly thinks this bubble is going to reinflate? |
ozymandius |
Dec-16-08 07:22 PM |
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Somebody still has a job? |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-16-08 08:22 PM |
#105 |