| 224. The issue is not whether corn syrup is more unhealthy -- it's that its subsidized |
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Such that gollops of the stuff are in everything and that their price is artificially low -- which means people consume more and thereby eat more sugar in the process.
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| -New data: High-fructose corn syrup no worse than sugar |
Sgent |
Dec-10-08 04:20 AM |
#0 |
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Fucking THANK YOU! |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:29 AM |
#1 |
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You are failing to understand something very basic regarding |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:23 AM |
#34 |
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The lesson learned (which should have been obvious in the first place) |
trotsky |
Dec-10-08 10:43 AM |
#45 |
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Perhaps the headline should be "Eating 1/2 lb. of sugar each day no better than |
petronius |
Dec-10-08 02:19 PM |
#76 |
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Absolutely. |
trotsky |
Dec-11-08 06:39 AM |
#161 |
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nor any BETTER - which is the point that should be driven home... |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 07:50 PM |
#206 |
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It's not in virtually everything Continental Europe eats |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:08 PM |
#178 |
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Maybe we should look at the findings and methodology? |
Political Heretic |
Dec-11-08 03:53 PM |
#184 |
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How can you call it "complete BS" without even reading the findings? |
Political Heretic |
Dec-11-08 03:51 PM |
#182 |
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Also check out post #6. nt |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:25 AM |
#37 |
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genetically modified |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:06 PM |
#177 |
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First, if you don't mind, I need to know who sponsored these studies. |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:32 AM |
#2 |
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Bingo - I'm with you aquart |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-08 06:35 AM |
#13 |
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I am grateful someone else asked who sponsored these studies. |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:42 AM |
#42 |
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Ditto bingo. Especially suspect, IMO, is the switch by one of the researchers. |
No Elephants |
Dec-10-08 06:48 AM |
#17 |
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Me too |
Gman |
Dec-10-08 06:49 AM |
#18 |
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Yup, first thing I thought of, too |
LostinVA |
Dec-10-08 07:26 AM |
#23 |
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EXACTLY!!! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-10-08 12:51 PM |
#71 |
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why- ConAgra, of course... |
stlsaxman |
Dec-11-08 08:14 AM |
#164 |
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"smoke 'em by the pack" |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:09 PM |
#179 |
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Partly the corn industry did... link |
Sparky 1 |
Dec-11-08 04:51 PM |
#190 |
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If the methodology is sound and the article was peer-reviewed, who cares who funded research? |
Dreamer Tatum |
Dec-12-08 10:55 AM |
#196 |
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present yet another case of |
Orrex |
Dec-13-08 01:00 PM |
#221 |
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...and George Bush was legitimately elected |
santamargarita |
Dec-10-08 04:37 AM |
#3 |
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No, he was not. |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 04:44 AM |
#5 |
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I forgot the sarcasm - yes, he stole 2 elections |
santamargarita |
Dec-10-08 05:01 AM |
#9 |
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'They' stole |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 05:20 AM |
#10 |
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So what? |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 04:40 AM |
#4 |
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If it was only soda. |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:24 AM |
#35 |
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dupe nt |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:24 AM |
#36 |
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Really? I read on DU that it was genetic ... |
dbaker41 |
Dec-10-08 10:44 AM |
#46 |
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This bullshit report was brought to you by...... |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 04:56 AM |
#6 |
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What an amazing coincidence! |
Nihil |
Dec-10-08 07:14 AM |
#21 |
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oh, this is major damage control |
shanti |
Dec-10-08 10:18 AM |
#32 |
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It doesn't address the other study showing increased risk of kidney disease |
varelse |
Dec-10-08 08:01 AM |
#25 |
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Well they are full of BS |
lovuian |
Dec-10-08 08:54 AM |
#29 |
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I love you for doing that Sebastian Doyle. |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:43 AM |
#44 |
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Yet the report was published by a respected, peer-referred journal. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:36 AM |
#62 |
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Aaaaarrrrrrghhhhhh. Respected, peer-referred journals are full of crap science. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 12:51 PM |
#70 |
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I asked for a reasoned rebuttal. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 01:00 PM |
#72 |
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Too much experience with the pharmaceutical industry to be reasonable... |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 02:11 PM |
#75 |
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Well thanks for admitting you're not reasonable. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 02:36 PM |
#81 |
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Nope, I got the right journal... |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 02:45 PM |
#84 |
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Honey, be happy. YOU eat the HFCS. Eat all you want. |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:13 PM |
#103 |
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That's fine. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 04:27 PM |
#109 |
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics. n/t |
bitchkitty |
Dec-13-08 09:01 AM |
#217 |
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Give us a reason to give this corporate 'study' a scintilla of cred, hooli |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-08 06:19 PM |
#128 |
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It's been peer-reviewed by scientists. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 06:55 PM |
#131 |
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The tobacco industry used reports from "scientists" to say cigarettes weren't addictive |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 08:28 PM |
#146 |
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You're going to have to try better than that. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 12:12 PM |
#173 |
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And "peers' often need money too..I'd be interested in how many "peers" |
SoCalDem |
Dec-11-08 04:31 AM |
#158 |
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We need to be careful here |
treestar |
Dec-11-08 06:44 AM |
#162 |
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You have no idea what you're blathering about |
Dreamer Tatum |
Dec-12-08 11:17 AM |
#198 |
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Um, yes, I really do know what I'm blathering about... |
hunter |
Dec-12-08 01:49 PM |
#201 |
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Fame and fortune await you, then |
Dreamer Tatum |
Dec-12-08 02:44 PM |
#203 |
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Buy me the journal articles and pay me... |
hunter |
Dec-12-08 03:32 PM |
#204 |
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Oh, so you haven't even read the articles. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-15-08 11:30 AM |
#233 |
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I don't watch Fox News either. |
hunter |
Dec-15-08 06:42 PM |
#236 |
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If I wanted to criticize Fox News... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-16-08 05:07 PM |
#240 |
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Are "science-based claims" the same as science? |
hunter |
Dec-16-08 06:41 PM |
#241 |
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"Something might be going on there." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-17-08 12:27 PM |
#242 |
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What's your stake? |
hunter |
Dec-17-08 03:49 PM |
#243 |
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You hate science, period. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-08 01:16 PM |
#244 |
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James Randi talks quite a bit about the gullible scientist phenomena... |
hunter |
Dec-18-08 06:44 PM |
#246 |
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But you have to admit that it doesn't help |
sandyd921 |
Dec-13-08 08:09 AM |
#215 |
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Did you say "conspiracy theories"? Oh no!! The gauntlet has been thrown. |
gtar100 |
Dec-13-08 05:37 AM |
#213 |
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Ptoooey on these phoney corporate 'studies' |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-08 03:56 PM |
#99 |
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"Corporate Pigs" is Right |
fascisthunter |
Dec-10-08 06:01 PM |
#124 |
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" ... The Sugar Association, Inc. ..." |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 06:21 PM |
#129 |
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Cadbury's own website says otherwise |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 06:53 PM |
#130 |
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Your link is 9 years out of date |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 07:32 PM |
#135 |
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Yup. Bought and paid for. nm |
dicksteele |
Dec-12-08 08:34 PM |
#210 |
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This still does not explain why nearly everything in the grocery store contains large amounts of |
Mzztakable |
Dec-10-08 04:57 AM |
#7 |
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It's because.......... |
rucognizant |
Dec-10-08 05:52 AM |
#11 |
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I believepeople develop the exact same craving for |
pipoman |
Dec-10-08 08:12 AM |
#26 |
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I avoid refined sugar in my coffee.... |
B3Nut |
Dec-10-08 08:56 AM |
#30 |
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Try agave nectar |
seemunkee |
Dec-10-08 09:06 AM |
#31 |
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agave nectar |
nocaster |
Dec-10-08 10:45 AM |
#47 |
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Try stevia. I use it all the time, I'm going to try and grow it myself this spring... |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:42 AM |
#41 |
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no sugar in the coffee here. I much prefer just coffee and cream. nt |
yellowdogintexas |
Dec-14-08 01:54 PM |
#228 |
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Ding-ding-ding |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-10-08 04:44 PM |
#112 |
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have you tried stevia? |
shanti |
Dec-10-08 10:21 AM |
#33 |
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Part of that is Insulin AND Leptin (hormone) Resistance. I had those "pangs" last year and it |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:46 AM |
#48 |
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All sugars cause cravings |
Abq_Sarah |
Dec-15-08 03:24 PM |
#235 |
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Less expensive |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 05:56 AM |
#12 |
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I have no problem at all avoiding products with HFCS |
cali |
Dec-10-08 06:44 AM |
#16 |
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Because all of those things normally contain sugar. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:26 AM |
#59 |
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Two words: Corn subsidies |
TechBear_Seattle |
Dec-10-08 11:31 AM |
#61 |
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Corn is subsidized. They get paid by the government to use it. |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:17 PM |
#105 |
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What they don't tell you is how HFCS is Manufactured. |
Grinchie |
Dec-10-08 04:57 AM |
#8 |
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i heard they really mistreat the corn |
nerddem |
Dec-10-08 06:50 AM |
#19 |
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they use these giant machines called |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:28 AM |
#38 |
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the horror! even in small-scale operations |
nerddem |
Dec-10-08 10:50 AM |
#50 |
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My God! will the horrors never end? I have lost my appetite! |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 11:40 AM |
#63 |
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That's why I only eat free range corn. |
DuStrange |
Dec-10-08 12:42 PM |
#67 |
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That's the type of corn that only subsists on a diet of cows, right? |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 02:31 PM |
#78 |
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I recognize that process |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-10-08 04:46 PM |
#113 |
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Except for the cloying icky sticky aftertaste. |
fla nocount |
Dec-10-08 06:37 AM |
#14 |
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What about caramel? |
WriteDown |
Dec-10-08 10:41 AM |
#40 |
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I was referring to the refreshing drinks with sugar added. |
fla nocount |
Dec-10-08 02:53 PM |
#85 |
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Ever wonder what they made pecan pie with 100 years ago? |
hedgehog |
Dec-10-08 03:32 PM |
#93 |
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Sugar syrup heated to 236 degrees or "thread stage"... |
fla nocount |
Dec-10-08 04:03 PM |
#100 |
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What about its links to diabetes and ADD? |
conscious evolution |
Dec-10-08 06:40 AM |
#15 |
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don't forget it's also a gate-way drug!!! |
zelta gaisma |
Dec-10-08 08:23 PM |
#144 |
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To insulin and ritalin |
conscious evolution |
Dec-10-08 08:26 PM |
#145 |
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wasn't talking so much about ... |
zelta gaisma |
Dec-10-08 09:54 PM |
#149 |
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Fuck yeah. They dilute that stuff--deliberately--with dihydrogen monoxide. n/t |
Orsino |
Dec-12-08 12:42 PM |
#199 |
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The empire strikes back |
depakid |
Dec-10-08 07:14 AM |
#20 |
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So the HFC Indsutry sez: HFC is yummmy! |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-10-08 07:20 AM |
#22 |
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they are also advertising on tv. |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:47 AM |
#49 |
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The influx of HFCS into the food chain |
pipoman |
Dec-10-08 07:59 AM |
#24 |
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Bingo |
Kali |
Dec-10-08 11:10 AM |
#55 |
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HFCS makes my heart pound and sugar doesn't. |
crikkett |
Dec-10-08 08:18 AM |
#27 |
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HFCS give me heartburn. |
mainegreen |
Dec-10-08 11:05 AM |
#53 |
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Well, it's either psychosomatic. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:25 AM |
#58 |
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It's your imagination. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 02:32 PM |
#79 |
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Oh really? It's not until after I've eaten something and nearly pass out that I |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:14 PM |
#104 |
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chemical differences in fructose vs glucose most likely. I get the sweats and |
yellowdogintexas |
Dec-14-08 01:53 PM |
#227 |
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Same here. n/t |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:10 PM |
#102 |
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Perhaps you are allergic to HFCS |
420inTN |
Dec-10-08 07:22 PM |
#134 |
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Nope. It's a classic hypoglycemic response n/t. |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 07:38 PM |
#139 |
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Must not be that classic. |
420inTN |
Dec-13-08 10:32 AM |
#219 |
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It's that sexy acronym. |
Orsino |
Dec-12-08 12:43 PM |
#200 |
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Never mind the health effects or lack of same. |
pabsungenis |
Dec-10-08 08:20 AM |
#28 |
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I agree.... |
WriteDown |
Dec-10-08 10:43 AM |
#43 |
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But honey is just "high fructose flower syrup" |
Tesha |
Dec-11-08 08:06 AM |
#163 |
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Haha!!! |
WriteDown |
Dec-11-08 09:19 AM |
#165 |
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On that we agree. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 02:33 PM |
#80 |
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No shit |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 10:37 AM |
#39 |
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So no difference in "effect on appetite" -- was that ever even the question? |
KurtNYC |
Dec-10-08 10:52 AM |
#51 |
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As with a public opinion poll, sometimes you can determine the answer |
hedgehog |
Dec-10-08 10:54 AM |
#52 |
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Scientific studies aren't biased |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 11:08 AM |
#54 |
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Depending on how I base the question, I think I could "prove" just about anything I want to. |
hedgehog |
Dec-10-08 11:28 AM |
#60 |
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Don't you think scientists look at these problems |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 12:50 PM |
#69 |
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The question you ask does matter! |
sandyd921 |
Dec-13-08 08:43 AM |
#216 |
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They do that all the time |
arikara |
Dec-13-08 12:02 PM |
#220 |
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Are you 12? |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:20 PM |
#107 |
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I trust science above any other sources |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 05:41 PM |
#123 |
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Re: "I trust science." |
420inTN |
Dec-10-08 07:36 PM |
#138 |
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I trust science, not an individual scientists |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 07:43 PM |
#140 |
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According to the New England Journal of Medicine, they are. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-10-08 06:07 PM |
#127 |
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To help clear up any conflicts of interest |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 07:36 PM |
#137 |
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I agree with you and with 420 on this one |
pipoman |
Dec-10-08 08:16 PM |
#142 |
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Those conflicts of interest, however, can reveal bias. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-11-08 09:47 AM |
#166 |
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Most Americans believe what they want to believe |
gravity |
Dec-11-08 05:04 PM |
#191 |
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That's true, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-12-08 10:40 AM |
#195 |
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Scientific studies CAN BE biased |
420inTN |
Dec-10-08 07:32 PM |
#136 |
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"No worse" |
Kali |
Dec-10-08 11:16 AM |
#56 |
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Well duh. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:24 AM |
#57 |
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Why two names, then? |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 02:31 PM |
#77 |
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No, they're two different molecules. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 02:59 PM |
#87 |
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So, if they're different how do we know their effect on the body is the same? |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 03:34 PM |
#94 |
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By studying the effects of the molecules on the body. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:36 PM |
#95 |
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Stop being condescending. |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 03:44 PM |
#97 |
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Stop playing dumb. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:48 PM |
#98 |
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They are not the same. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 04:55 PM |
#116 |
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Thank you. |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 05:11 PM |
#118 |
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Uh, hunter.... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 05:28 PM |
#121 |
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That's not the way it works. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 08:57 PM |
#148 |
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Actually, yes, it is. |
Hanse |
Dec-10-08 11:52 PM |
#153 |
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Go for it. |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 02:43 AM |
#154 |
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Fructose --> F6P --> G6P --> glucose |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 03:52 PM |
#183 |
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Hello? This is one place where fructose gets nasty... |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 08:10 PM |
#194 |
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Not to mention the fact |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-11-08 01:05 PM |
#174 |
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YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG!!! |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 08:01 PM |
#208 |
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Ah, I wondered where this was coming from... |
hunter |
Dec-13-08 01:36 AM |
#211 |
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Sugar is SUGAR and reacts with the body THE SAME WAY! |
TankLV |
Dec-14-08 11:27 AM |
#226 |
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In chemistry rates are important. Dieticians base their practice on science. |
hunter |
Dec-14-08 02:07 PM |
#229 |
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They're all SUGARS, and hence, too much of ALL of 'em is BAD... |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 07:59 PM |
#207 |
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Just for fun I add this... |
hunter |
Dec-16-08 03:25 PM |
#238 |
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dental caries not mentioned |
librechik |
Dec-10-08 12:05 PM |
#64 |
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Why not just real sugar then? |
Strathos |
Dec-10-08 12:23 PM |
#65 |
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1. "real" sugar is also processed. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 12:25 PM |
#66 |
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Or made from beets. |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-10-08 04:53 PM |
# |
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It's not any more processed than regular sugar. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 02:39 PM |
#83 |
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Like hell it isn't. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 02:56 PM |
#86 |
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If it's not metabolised, why would it cause diabetes? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:01 PM |
#89 |
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Geeze.. |
jaredh |
Dec-11-08 03:16 AM |
#156 |
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Hogwash. Complete nonsense. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:51 PM |
#114 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-10-08 07:01 PM |
#132 |
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Yes, that must be it. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 08:06 PM |
#141 |
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"I know a corporate shill when I see one." |
Psephos |
Dec-10-08 10:15 PM |
#150 |
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Your post makes no sense whatsoever |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 05:19 PM |
#119 |
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Sucrose, what we usually mean by "real sugar", is a disaccharide |
nuxvomica |
Dec-11-08 11:21 AM |
#171 |
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FYI: Sucrose is a disaccharide, hence its subsequent breakdown into two monosaccharides. |
Tesha |
Dec-11-08 04:31 PM |
#187 |
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High fructose corn syrup is a waste byproduct of the processing of ethanol industry |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-10-08 12:47 PM |
#68 |
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yuck |
BuddhaGirl |
Dec-10-08 03:38 PM |
#96 |
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It's a genetic modification |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:11 PM |
#180 |
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I found this label comparison interesting ... |
cosmicdot |
Dec-10-08 01:21 PM |
#73 |
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Yeah it must be the corn syrup |
JonQ |
Dec-10-08 02:03 PM |
#74 |
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But those other factors exist in other countries as well |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 03:00 PM |
#88 |
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Actually they do. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:53 PM |
#115 |
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Came here to say exactly that |
JonQ |
Dec-10-08 06:03 PM |
#125 |
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Change in diabetes rates in Europe from 1980 to 2005: |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 05:36 PM |
#122 |
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it's still garbage |
BuddhaGirl |
Dec-10-08 02:38 PM |
#82 |
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lulz |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:04 PM |
#91 |
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Link? n/t |
kgfnally |
Dec-10-08 04:19 PM |
#106 |
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here |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 04:26 PM |
#108 |
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Now can you show me a site WITHOUT extreme bias toward this industry? n/t |
kgfnally |
Dec-10-08 07:20 PM |
#133 |
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Extreme bias? Huh? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 12:10 PM |
#172 |
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That's a very poorly written article and the title of it is misleading. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-10-08 03:02 PM |
#90 |
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Cheap HFCS contributes to more calories consumed. |
freestyle |
Dec-10-08 03:23 PM |
#92 |
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Now THAT is a reasonable point. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 08:18 PM |
#143 |
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This is one of the few reasoned posts on this thread |
Psephos |
Dec-10-08 08:34 PM |
#147 |
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OK- then why can I eat items made with sugar and just feel a little light |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:08 PM |
#101 |
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Easy. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:56 PM |
#117 |
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okay, lets suppose that's true. It still stands to reason that it is linked to obesity |
AllyCat |
Dec-10-08 04:34 PM |
#110 |
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Didn't test copper metabolism in that study, did they? |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:36 PM |
#111 |
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Fructose interferes with a lot of metabolic pathways. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 05:21 PM |
#120 |
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That's a quack site. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-10-08 10:35 PM |
#151 |
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I just spent way too much time trying to find good sites. |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 02:59 AM |
#155 |
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lol... sure it is |
fascisthunter |
Dec-10-08 06:04 PM |
#126 |
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I don't give a rat's ass what they say, my family DOES NOT PARTAKE!! |
SoCalDemGrrl |
Dec-10-08 10:54 PM |
#152 |
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No surprise. |
jaredh |
Dec-11-08 03:21 AM |
#157 |
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It's the same damn thing as sugar - it IS sugar. nt |
old mark |
Dec-11-08 05:05 AM |
#159 |
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scientific information cascade |
Locrian |
Dec-11-08 06:24 AM |
#160 |
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I'll go with that to a certain extent, but it's also true you can't read everything. |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 10:33 AM |
#170 |
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There is no "real truth" in inferential statistical analysis |
Mosby |
Dec-11-08 06:52 PM |
#193 |
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But they put HFCS in EVERYTHING! |
LeftHander |
Dec-11-08 10:00 AM |
#167 |
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That, in my opinion, is the real problem. |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-11-08 01:41 PM |
#176 |
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classic internet responses here |
Bill McBlueState |
Dec-11-08 10:02 AM |
#168 |
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The USA today article cited in the original post isn't biased... |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 01:35 PM |
#175 |
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It's bullshit |
Khaotic |
Dec-11-08 10:33 AM |
#169 |
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a New York Food and Drug lawyer told me years ago |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:14 PM |
#181 |
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I once had a podiatrist from Nebraska tell me to buy Bear Stearns stock. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 04:28 PM |
#186 |
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I hope he didn't get left flat-footed! (NT) |
Tesha |
Dec-11-08 04:39 PM |
#188 |
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BS! |
for-q-bush |
Dec-11-08 04:26 PM |
#185 |
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An 10,000,000 people in the US have corn allergy |
Sparky 1 |
Dec-11-08 04:46 PM |
#189 |
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(1) Who sponsored this "new" "research"? (2) HFCS is in damn near everything that sugar never was. |
Hekate |
Dec-11-08 05:30 PM |
#192 |
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No HFCS. No gluten. No soy. No hydrogenated oils. |
diamidue |
Dec-12-08 10:56 AM |
#197 |
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What's your concern with gluten and soy? |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-15-08 08:35 AM |
#231 |
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Not much worse than black tar heroin, either, probly. |
mbperrin |
Dec-12-08 01:53 PM |
#202 |
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conversely - no better, either... |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 07:49 PM |
#205 |
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Bullshit |
dpbrown |
Dec-12-08 08:28 PM |
#209 |
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Now ask yourself, is this the best the corn industry could do??? |
hunter |
Dec-13-08 02:28 AM |
#212 |
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Not so fast |
sandyd921 |
Dec-13-08 07:57 AM |
#214 |
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What they don't tell you is HFCS is made from PEOPLE! |
billyskank |
Dec-13-08 10:17 AM |
#218 |
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Sweet, delicious people |
Orrex |
Dec-13-08 01:05 PM |
#222 |
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"One paper was written by Barry Popkin... |
antiwarwarrior |
Dec-13-08 05:28 PM |
#223 |
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Opening the door to HFCS in Mexico... |
hunter |
Dec-13-08 07:36 PM |
#225 |
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The issue is not whether corn syrup is more unhealthy -- it's that its subsidized |
liberalpragmatist |
Dec-13-08 07:29 PM |
#224 |
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I'll still try to cut it out of my diet as much as possible, thanks. |
seawolf |
Dec-15-08 07:46 AM |
#230 |
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It's not *what* you eat it's *how fucking much* you eat! |
joshcryer |
Dec-15-08 11:29 AM |
#232 |
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so i'd be equally healthy and slender on 1200 calories a day from vegetables |
Scout |
Dec-15-08 01:45 PM |
#234 |
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How about TASTE?? |
ovidsen |
Dec-15-08 09:03 PM |
#237 |
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Yeah well I don't buy it, they also claimed that smoking was ok for decades!!! |
demo dutch |
Dec-16-08 04:06 PM |
#239 |
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my family |
Marblehead |
Dec-18-08 03:41 PM |
#245 |