| 88. But those other factors exist in other countries as well |
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They have video games, 500 channel digital TV and broadband internet in Europe, Japan, and other countries just like they do here. But they don't have high fructose corn poison. And they don't have the spike in obesity and diabetes.
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| -New data: High-fructose corn syrup no worse than sugar |
Sgent |
Dec-10-08 04:20 AM |
#0 |
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Fucking THANK YOU! |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:29 AM |
#1 |
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You are failing to understand something very basic regarding |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:23 AM |
#34 |
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The lesson learned (which should have been obvious in the first place) |
trotsky |
Dec-10-08 10:43 AM |
#45 |
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Perhaps the headline should be "Eating 1/2 lb. of sugar each day no better than |
petronius |
Dec-10-08 02:19 PM |
#76 |
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Absolutely. |
trotsky |
Dec-11-08 06:39 AM |
#161 |
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nor any BETTER - which is the point that should be driven home... |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 07:50 PM |
#206 |
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It's not in virtually everything Continental Europe eats |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:08 PM |
#178 |
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Maybe we should look at the findings and methodology? |
Political Heretic |
Dec-11-08 03:53 PM |
#184 |
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How can you call it "complete BS" without even reading the findings? |
Political Heretic |
Dec-11-08 03:51 PM |
#182 |
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Also check out post #6. nt |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:25 AM |
#37 |
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genetically modified |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:06 PM |
#177 |
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First, if you don't mind, I need to know who sponsored these studies. |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:32 AM |
#2 |
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Bingo - I'm with you aquart |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-08 06:35 AM |
#13 |
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I am grateful someone else asked who sponsored these studies. |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:42 AM |
#42 |
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Ditto bingo. Especially suspect, IMO, is the switch by one of the researchers. |
No Elephants |
Dec-10-08 06:48 AM |
#17 |
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Me too |
Gman |
Dec-10-08 06:49 AM |
#18 |
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Yup, first thing I thought of, too |
LostinVA |
Dec-10-08 07:26 AM |
#23 |
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EXACTLY!!! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-10-08 12:51 PM |
#71 |
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why- ConAgra, of course... |
stlsaxman |
Dec-11-08 08:14 AM |
#164 |
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"smoke 'em by the pack" |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:09 PM |
#179 |
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Partly the corn industry did... link |
Sparky 1 |
Dec-11-08 04:51 PM |
#190 |
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If the methodology is sound and the article was peer-reviewed, who cares who funded research? |
Dreamer Tatum |
Dec-12-08 10:55 AM |
#196 |
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present yet another case of |
Orrex |
Dec-13-08 01:00 PM |
#221 |
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...and George Bush was legitimately elected |
santamargarita |
Dec-10-08 04:37 AM |
#3 |
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No, he was not. |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 04:44 AM |
#5 |
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I forgot the sarcasm - yes, he stole 2 elections |
santamargarita |
Dec-10-08 05:01 AM |
#9 |
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'They' stole |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 05:20 AM |
#10 |
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So what? |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 04:40 AM |
#4 |
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If it was only soda. |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:24 AM |
#35 |
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dupe nt |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:24 AM |
#36 |
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Really? I read on DU that it was genetic ... |
dbaker41 |
Dec-10-08 10:44 AM |
#46 |
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This bullshit report was brought to you by...... |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 04:56 AM |
#6 |
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What an amazing coincidence! |
Nihil |
Dec-10-08 07:14 AM |
#21 |
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oh, this is major damage control |
shanti |
Dec-10-08 10:18 AM |
#32 |
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It doesn't address the other study showing increased risk of kidney disease |
varelse |
Dec-10-08 08:01 AM |
#25 |
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Well they are full of BS |
lovuian |
Dec-10-08 08:54 AM |
#29 |
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I love you for doing that Sebastian Doyle. |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:43 AM |
#44 |
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Yet the report was published by a respected, peer-referred journal. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:36 AM |
#62 |
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Aaaaarrrrrrghhhhhh. Respected, peer-referred journals are full of crap science. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 12:51 PM |
#70 |
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I asked for a reasoned rebuttal. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 01:00 PM |
#72 |
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Too much experience with the pharmaceutical industry to be reasonable... |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 02:11 PM |
#75 |
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Well thanks for admitting you're not reasonable. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 02:36 PM |
#81 |
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Nope, I got the right journal... |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 02:45 PM |
#84 |
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Honey, be happy. YOU eat the HFCS. Eat all you want. |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:13 PM |
#103 |
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That's fine. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 04:27 PM |
#109 |
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics. n/t |
bitchkitty |
Dec-13-08 09:01 AM |
#217 |
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Give us a reason to give this corporate 'study' a scintilla of cred, hooli |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-08 06:19 PM |
#128 |
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It's been peer-reviewed by scientists. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 06:55 PM |
#131 |
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The tobacco industry used reports from "scientists" to say cigarettes weren't addictive |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 08:28 PM |
#146 |
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You're going to have to try better than that. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 12:12 PM |
#173 |
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And "peers' often need money too..I'd be interested in how many "peers" |
SoCalDem |
Dec-11-08 04:31 AM |
#158 |
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We need to be careful here |
treestar |
Dec-11-08 06:44 AM |
#162 |
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You have no idea what you're blathering about |
Dreamer Tatum |
Dec-12-08 11:17 AM |
#198 |
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Um, yes, I really do know what I'm blathering about... |
hunter |
Dec-12-08 01:49 PM |
#201 |
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Fame and fortune await you, then |
Dreamer Tatum |
Dec-12-08 02:44 PM |
#203 |
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Buy me the journal articles and pay me... |
hunter |
Dec-12-08 03:32 PM |
#204 |
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Oh, so you haven't even read the articles. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-15-08 11:30 AM |
#233 |
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I don't watch Fox News either. |
hunter |
Dec-15-08 06:42 PM |
#236 |
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If I wanted to criticize Fox News... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-16-08 05:07 PM |
#240 |
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Are "science-based claims" the same as science? |
hunter |
Dec-16-08 06:41 PM |
#241 |
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"Something might be going on there." |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-17-08 12:27 PM |
#242 |
  -
What's your stake? |
hunter |
Dec-17-08 03:49 PM |
#243 |
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You hate science, period. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-18-08 01:16 PM |
#244 |
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James Randi talks quite a bit about the gullible scientist phenomena... |
hunter |
Dec-18-08 06:44 PM |
#246 |
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But you have to admit that it doesn't help |
sandyd921 |
Dec-13-08 08:09 AM |
#215 |
  -
Did you say "conspiracy theories"? Oh no!! The gauntlet has been thrown. |
gtar100 |
Dec-13-08 05:37 AM |
#213 |
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Ptoooey on these phoney corporate 'studies' |
SpiralHawk |
Dec-10-08 03:56 PM |
#99 |
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"Corporate Pigs" is Right |
fascisthunter |
Dec-10-08 06:01 PM |
#124 |
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" ... The Sugar Association, Inc. ..." |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 06:21 PM |
#129 |
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Cadbury's own website says otherwise |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 06:53 PM |
#130 |
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Your link is 9 years out of date |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 07:32 PM |
#135 |
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Yup. Bought and paid for. nm |
dicksteele |
Dec-12-08 08:34 PM |
#210 |
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This still does not explain why nearly everything in the grocery store contains large amounts of |
Mzztakable |
Dec-10-08 04:57 AM |
#7 |
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It's because.......... |
rucognizant |
Dec-10-08 05:52 AM |
#11 |
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I believepeople develop the exact same craving for |
pipoman |
Dec-10-08 08:12 AM |
#26 |
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I avoid refined sugar in my coffee.... |
B3Nut |
Dec-10-08 08:56 AM |
#30 |
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Try agave nectar |
seemunkee |
Dec-10-08 09:06 AM |
#31 |
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agave nectar |
nocaster |
Dec-10-08 10:45 AM |
#47 |
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Try stevia. I use it all the time, I'm going to try and grow it myself this spring... |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:42 AM |
#41 |
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no sugar in the coffee here. I much prefer just coffee and cream. nt |
yellowdogintexas |
Dec-14-08 01:54 PM |
#228 |
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Ding-ding-ding |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-10-08 04:44 PM |
#112 |
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have you tried stevia? |
shanti |
Dec-10-08 10:21 AM |
#33 |
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Part of that is Insulin AND Leptin (hormone) Resistance. I had those "pangs" last year and it |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:46 AM |
#48 |
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All sugars cause cravings |
Abq_Sarah |
Dec-15-08 03:24 PM |
#235 |
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Less expensive |
elleng |
Dec-10-08 05:56 AM |
#12 |
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I have no problem at all avoiding products with HFCS |
cali |
Dec-10-08 06:44 AM |
#16 |
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Because all of those things normally contain sugar. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:26 AM |
#59 |
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Two words: Corn subsidies |
TechBear_Seattle |
Dec-10-08 11:31 AM |
#61 |
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Corn is subsidized. They get paid by the government to use it. |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:17 PM |
#105 |
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What they don't tell you is how HFCS is Manufactured. |
Grinchie |
Dec-10-08 04:57 AM |
#8 |
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i heard they really mistreat the corn |
nerddem |
Dec-10-08 06:50 AM |
#19 |
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they use these giant machines called |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 10:28 AM |
#38 |
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the horror! even in small-scale operations |
nerddem |
Dec-10-08 10:50 AM |
#50 |
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My God! will the horrors never end? I have lost my appetite! |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 11:40 AM |
#63 |
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That's why I only eat free range corn. |
DuStrange |
Dec-10-08 12:42 PM |
#67 |
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That's the type of corn that only subsists on a diet of cows, right? |
Javaman |
Dec-10-08 02:31 PM |
#78 |
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I recognize that process |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-10-08 04:46 PM |
#113 |
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Except for the cloying icky sticky aftertaste. |
fla nocount |
Dec-10-08 06:37 AM |
#14 |
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What about caramel? |
WriteDown |
Dec-10-08 10:41 AM |
#40 |
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I was referring to the refreshing drinks with sugar added. |
fla nocount |
Dec-10-08 02:53 PM |
#85 |
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Ever wonder what they made pecan pie with 100 years ago? |
hedgehog |
Dec-10-08 03:32 PM |
#93 |
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Sugar syrup heated to 236 degrees or "thread stage"... |
fla nocount |
Dec-10-08 04:03 PM |
#100 |
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What about its links to diabetes and ADD? |
conscious evolution |
Dec-10-08 06:40 AM |
#15 |
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don't forget it's also a gate-way drug!!! |
zelta gaisma |
Dec-10-08 08:23 PM |
#144 |
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To insulin and ritalin |
conscious evolution |
Dec-10-08 08:26 PM |
#145 |
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wasn't talking so much about ... |
zelta gaisma |
Dec-10-08 09:54 PM |
#149 |
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Fuck yeah. They dilute that stuff--deliberately--with dihydrogen monoxide. n/t |
Orsino |
Dec-12-08 12:42 PM |
#199 |
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The empire strikes back |
depakid |
Dec-10-08 07:14 AM |
#20 |
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So the HFC Indsutry sez: HFC is yummmy! |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-10-08 07:20 AM |
#22 |
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they are also advertising on tv. |
cryingshame |
Dec-10-08 10:47 AM |
#49 |
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The influx of HFCS into the food chain |
pipoman |
Dec-10-08 07:59 AM |
#24 |
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Bingo |
Kali |
Dec-10-08 11:10 AM |
#55 |
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HFCS makes my heart pound and sugar doesn't. |
crikkett |
Dec-10-08 08:18 AM |
#27 |
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HFCS give me heartburn. |
mainegreen |
Dec-10-08 11:05 AM |
#53 |
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Well, it's either psychosomatic. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:25 AM |
#58 |
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It's your imagination. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 02:32 PM |
#79 |
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Oh really? It's not until after I've eaten something and nearly pass out that I |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:14 PM |
#104 |
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chemical differences in fructose vs glucose most likely. I get the sweats and |
yellowdogintexas |
Dec-14-08 01:53 PM |
#227 |
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Same here. n/t |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:10 PM |
#102 |
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Perhaps you are allergic to HFCS |
420inTN |
Dec-10-08 07:22 PM |
#134 |
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Nope. It's a classic hypoglycemic response n/t. |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 07:38 PM |
#139 |
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Must not be that classic. |
420inTN |
Dec-13-08 10:32 AM |
#219 |
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It's that sexy acronym. |
Orsino |
Dec-12-08 12:43 PM |
#200 |
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Never mind the health effects or lack of same. |
pabsungenis |
Dec-10-08 08:20 AM |
#28 |
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I agree.... |
WriteDown |
Dec-10-08 10:43 AM |
#43 |
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But honey is just "high fructose flower syrup" |
Tesha |
Dec-11-08 08:06 AM |
#163 |
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Haha!!! |
WriteDown |
Dec-11-08 09:19 AM |
#165 |
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On that we agree. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 02:33 PM |
#80 |
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No shit |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 10:37 AM |
#39 |
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So no difference in "effect on appetite" -- was that ever even the question? |
KurtNYC |
Dec-10-08 10:52 AM |
#51 |
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As with a public opinion poll, sometimes you can determine the answer |
hedgehog |
Dec-10-08 10:54 AM |
#52 |
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Scientific studies aren't biased |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 11:08 AM |
#54 |
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Depending on how I base the question, I think I could "prove" just about anything I want to. |
hedgehog |
Dec-10-08 11:28 AM |
#60 |
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Don't you think scientists look at these problems |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 12:50 PM |
#69 |
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The question you ask does matter! |
sandyd921 |
Dec-13-08 08:43 AM |
#216 |
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They do that all the time |
arikara |
Dec-13-08 12:02 PM |
#220 |
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Are you 12? |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:20 PM |
#107 |
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I trust science above any other sources |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 05:41 PM |
#123 |
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Re: "I trust science." |
420inTN |
Dec-10-08 07:36 PM |
#138 |
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I trust science, not an individual scientists |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 07:43 PM |
#140 |
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According to the New England Journal of Medicine, they are. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-10-08 06:07 PM |
#127 |
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To help clear up any conflicts of interest |
gravity |
Dec-10-08 07:36 PM |
#137 |
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I agree with you and with 420 on this one |
pipoman |
Dec-10-08 08:16 PM |
#142 |
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Those conflicts of interest, however, can reveal bias. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-11-08 09:47 AM |
#166 |
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Most Americans believe what they want to believe |
gravity |
Dec-11-08 05:04 PM |
#191 |
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That's true, too. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-12-08 10:40 AM |
#195 |
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Scientific studies CAN BE biased |
420inTN |
Dec-10-08 07:32 PM |
#136 |
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"No worse" |
Kali |
Dec-10-08 11:16 AM |
#56 |
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Well duh. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 11:24 AM |
#57 |
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Why two names, then? |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 02:31 PM |
#77 |
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No, they're two different molecules. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 02:59 PM |
#87 |
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So, if they're different how do we know their effect on the body is the same? |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 03:34 PM |
#94 |
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By studying the effects of the molecules on the body. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:36 PM |
#95 |
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Stop being condescending. |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 03:44 PM |
#97 |
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Stop playing dumb. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:48 PM |
#98 |
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They are not the same. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 04:55 PM |
#116 |
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Thank you. |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-10-08 05:11 PM |
#118 |
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Uh, hunter.... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 05:28 PM |
#121 |
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That's not the way it works. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 08:57 PM |
#148 |
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Actually, yes, it is. |
Hanse |
Dec-10-08 11:52 PM |
#153 |
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Go for it. |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 02:43 AM |
#154 |
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Fructose --> F6P --> G6P --> glucose |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 03:52 PM |
#183 |
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Hello? This is one place where fructose gets nasty... |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 08:10 PM |
#194 |
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Not to mention the fact |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-11-08 01:05 PM |
#174 |
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YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG!!! |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 08:01 PM |
#208 |
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Ah, I wondered where this was coming from... |
hunter |
Dec-13-08 01:36 AM |
#211 |
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Sugar is SUGAR and reacts with the body THE SAME WAY! |
TankLV |
Dec-14-08 11:27 AM |
#226 |
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In chemistry rates are important. Dieticians base their practice on science. |
hunter |
Dec-14-08 02:07 PM |
#229 |
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They're all SUGARS, and hence, too much of ALL of 'em is BAD... |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 07:59 PM |
#207 |
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Just for fun I add this... |
hunter |
Dec-16-08 03:25 PM |
#238 |
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dental caries not mentioned |
librechik |
Dec-10-08 12:05 PM |
#64 |
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Why not just real sugar then? |
Strathos |
Dec-10-08 12:23 PM |
#65 |
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1. "real" sugar is also processed. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 12:25 PM |
#66 |
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Or made from beets. |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-10-08 04:53 PM |
# |
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It's not any more processed than regular sugar. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 02:39 PM |
#83 |
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Like hell it isn't. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 02:56 PM |
#86 |
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If it's not metabolised, why would it cause diabetes? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:01 PM |
#89 |
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Geeze.. |
jaredh |
Dec-11-08 03:16 AM |
#156 |
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Hogwash. Complete nonsense. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:51 PM |
#114 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-10-08 07:01 PM |
#132 |
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Yes, that must be it. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 08:06 PM |
#141 |
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"I know a corporate shill when I see one." |
Psephos |
Dec-10-08 10:15 PM |
#150 |
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Your post makes no sense whatsoever |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 05:19 PM |
#119 |
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Sucrose, what we usually mean by "real sugar", is a disaccharide |
nuxvomica |
Dec-11-08 11:21 AM |
#171 |
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FYI: Sucrose is a disaccharide, hence its subsequent breakdown into two monosaccharides. |
Tesha |
Dec-11-08 04:31 PM |
#187 |
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High fructose corn syrup is a waste byproduct of the processing of ethanol industry |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-10-08 12:47 PM |
#68 |
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yuck |
BuddhaGirl |
Dec-10-08 03:38 PM |
#96 |
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It's a genetic modification |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:11 PM |
#180 |
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I found this label comparison interesting ... |
cosmicdot |
Dec-10-08 01:21 PM |
#73 |
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Yeah it must be the corn syrup |
JonQ |
Dec-10-08 02:03 PM |
#74 |
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But those other factors exist in other countries as well |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-10-08 03:00 PM |
#88 |
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Actually they do. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:53 PM |
#115 |
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Came here to say exactly that |
JonQ |
Dec-10-08 06:03 PM |
#125 |
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Change in diabetes rates in Europe from 1980 to 2005: |
muriel_volestrangler |
Dec-10-08 05:36 PM |
#122 |
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it's still garbage |
BuddhaGirl |
Dec-10-08 02:38 PM |
#82 |
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lulz |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 03:04 PM |
#91 |
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Link? n/t |
kgfnally |
Dec-10-08 04:19 PM |
#106 |
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here |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-10-08 04:26 PM |
#108 |
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Now can you show me a site WITHOUT extreme bias toward this industry? n/t |
kgfnally |
Dec-10-08 07:20 PM |
#133 |
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Extreme bias? Huh? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 12:10 PM |
#172 |
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That's a very poorly written article and the title of it is misleading. |
Cerridwen |
Dec-10-08 03:02 PM |
#90 |
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Cheap HFCS contributes to more calories consumed. |
freestyle |
Dec-10-08 03:23 PM |
#92 |
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Now THAT is a reasonable point. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 08:18 PM |
#143 |
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This is one of the few reasoned posts on this thread |
Psephos |
Dec-10-08 08:34 PM |
#147 |
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OK- then why can I eat items made with sugar and just feel a little light |
Lorien |
Dec-10-08 04:08 PM |
#101 |
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Easy. |
Codeine |
Dec-10-08 04:56 PM |
#117 |
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okay, lets suppose that's true. It still stands to reason that it is linked to obesity |
AllyCat |
Dec-10-08 04:34 PM |
#110 |
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Didn't test copper metabolism in that study, did they? |
aquart |
Dec-10-08 04:36 PM |
#111 |
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Fructose interferes with a lot of metabolic pathways. |
hunter |
Dec-10-08 05:21 PM |
#120 |
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That's a quack site. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-10-08 10:35 PM |
#151 |
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I just spent way too much time trying to find good sites. |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 02:59 AM |
#155 |
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lol... sure it is |
fascisthunter |
Dec-10-08 06:04 PM |
#126 |
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I don't give a rat's ass what they say, my family DOES NOT PARTAKE!! |
SoCalDemGrrl |
Dec-10-08 10:54 PM |
#152 |
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No surprise. |
jaredh |
Dec-11-08 03:21 AM |
#157 |
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It's the same damn thing as sugar - it IS sugar. nt |
old mark |
Dec-11-08 05:05 AM |
#159 |
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scientific information cascade |
Locrian |
Dec-11-08 06:24 AM |
#160 |
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I'll go with that to a certain extent, but it's also true you can't read everything. |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 10:33 AM |
#170 |
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There is no "real truth" in inferential statistical analysis |
Mosby |
Dec-11-08 06:52 PM |
#193 |
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But they put HFCS in EVERYTHING! |
LeftHander |
Dec-11-08 10:00 AM |
#167 |
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That, in my opinion, is the real problem. |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-11-08 01:41 PM |
#176 |
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classic internet responses here |
Bill McBlueState |
Dec-11-08 10:02 AM |
#168 |
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The USA today article cited in the original post isn't biased... |
hunter |
Dec-11-08 01:35 PM |
#175 |
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It's bullshit |
Khaotic |
Dec-11-08 10:33 AM |
#169 |
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a New York Food and Drug lawyer told me years ago |
lebkuchen |
Dec-11-08 02:14 PM |
#181 |
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I once had a podiatrist from Nebraska tell me to buy Bear Stearns stock. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-11-08 04:28 PM |
#186 |
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I hope he didn't get left flat-footed! (NT) |
Tesha |
Dec-11-08 04:39 PM |
#188 |
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BS! |
for-q-bush |
Dec-11-08 04:26 PM |
#185 |
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An 10,000,000 people in the US have corn allergy |
Sparky 1 |
Dec-11-08 04:46 PM |
#189 |
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(1) Who sponsored this "new" "research"? (2) HFCS is in damn near everything that sugar never was. |
Hekate |
Dec-11-08 05:30 PM |
#192 |
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No HFCS. No gluten. No soy. No hydrogenated oils. |
diamidue |
Dec-12-08 10:56 AM |
#197 |
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What's your concern with gluten and soy? |
Ms. Toad |
Dec-15-08 08:35 AM |
#231 |
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Not much worse than black tar heroin, either, probly. |
mbperrin |
Dec-12-08 01:53 PM |
#202 |
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conversely - no better, either... |
TankLV |
Dec-12-08 07:49 PM |
#205 |
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Bullshit |
dpbrown |
Dec-12-08 08:28 PM |
#209 |
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Now ask yourself, is this the best the corn industry could do??? |
hunter |
Dec-13-08 02:28 AM |
#212 |
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Not so fast |
sandyd921 |
Dec-13-08 07:57 AM |
#214 |
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What they don't tell you is HFCS is made from PEOPLE! |
billyskank |
Dec-13-08 10:17 AM |
#218 |
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Sweet, delicious people |
Orrex |
Dec-13-08 01:05 PM |
#222 |
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"One paper was written by Barry Popkin... |
antiwarwarrior |
Dec-13-08 05:28 PM |
#223 |
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Opening the door to HFCS in Mexico... |
hunter |
Dec-13-08 07:36 PM |
#225 |
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The issue is not whether corn syrup is more unhealthy -- it's that its subsidized |
liberalpragmatist |
Dec-13-08 07:29 PM |
#224 |
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I'll still try to cut it out of my diet as much as possible, thanks. |
seawolf |
Dec-15-08 07:46 AM |
#230 |
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It's not *what* you eat it's *how fucking much* you eat! |
joshcryer |
Dec-15-08 11:29 AM |
#232 |
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so i'd be equally healthy and slender on 1200 calories a day from vegetables |
Scout |
Dec-15-08 01:45 PM |
#234 |
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How about TASTE?? |
ovidsen |
Dec-15-08 09:03 PM |
#237 |
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Yeah well I don't buy it, they also claimed that smoking was ok for decades!!! |
demo dutch |
Dec-16-08 04:06 PM |
#239 |
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my family |
Marblehead |
Dec-18-08 03:41 PM |
#245 |