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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:47 AM
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44. there are several reasons for the
massive run up in college costs:

1) the costs of equipment for the high tech/science degrees (you don't want to put out kids with degrees with info/techniques that are 5-10 or more years out of date)
2) the mindset that a student has to go away to and/or board at their college of choice
3) the large amount of money (both public and private) readily available for college education (that drives inflationary trends akin to those seen during the california gold rush)
4) the mindset that for anyone to be successful, they must, positively, attend college (this is not true - there are huge segments of the workforce that do not require college degrees - education, yes but a bachelors? no)

a college education is a finite resource, making more money available for college education won't alter that fact.

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  -College May Become Unaffordable for Most in U.S. XemaSab  Dec-03-08 01:33 AM   #0 
  - Unreal. I couldn't have afforded college under these conditions  sfexpat2000   Dec-03-08 01:35 AM   #1 
  - Me neither. I couldn't have gone to college with these crazy prices  Julius Civitatus   Dec-03-08 12:43 PM   #60 
  - Oh, GREAT idea!  elleng   Dec-03-08 01:37 AM   #2 
  - I don't know anyone my age who spent 4 years in college  XemaSab   Dec-03-08 01:41 AM   #3 
     - College was unaffordable to many of our HS grads prior to WW2 and The GI Bill  Bobbieo   Dec-03-08 01:51 AM   #4 
     - True and we did not become a super power until WW2  izzie   Dec-03-08 03:13 AM   #12 
     - Some years after BA I went on to law school,  elleng   Dec-03-08 02:02 AM   #6 
     - Yep... 5 years of undergrad and 2 years or grad.... looking and PHD program now :/  Political Heretic   Dec-03-08 02:15 PM   #66 
  - the US population is undereducated now  Duppers   Dec-03-08 01:59 AM   #5 
  - I don't say 'wilfully' ignorant,  elleng   Dec-03-08 02:05 AM   #7 
  - "May become unafforable for most". Already is.  superconnected   Dec-03-08 02:06 AM   #8 
  - May BECOME?  48percenter   Dec-03-08 02:45 AM   #9 
  - State and Fed governments need to rethink this tuition thing  DeltaLitProf   Dec-03-08 03:58 AM   #13 
  - Yep--here in Wisconsin our most recent pay raise after about three years was  smoogatz   Dec-03-08 09:07 AM   #41 
     - That sounds exactly like California  XemaSab   Dec-03-08 01:05 PM   #63 
  - Room and board really get you. What a rip-off, nearly $1k a month for a half a room...  Just-plain-Kathy   Dec-03-08 05:31 AM   #19 
  - Seriously  riverdale   Dec-04-08 09:46 AM   #86 
  - I think we need to create jobs first  silverojo   Dec-03-08 02:47 AM   #10 
  - Its kind of a circular thing,  elleng   Dec-03-08 02:52 AM   #11 
  - educated workforce generates GOOD jobs  CreekDog   Dec-03-08 04:08 AM   #14 
  - it's already unaffordable for many . . .  OneBlueSky   Dec-03-08 04:13 AM   #15 
  - reminds me of an Eisenhower quote:  UpInArms   Dec-03-08 04:35 AM   #16 
  - Great Quote  TexasLawyer   Dec-03-08 02:38 PM   #67 
  - This is bullshit. Lots of big colleges are sitting on HUGE piles of money  acmavm   Dec-03-08 04:50 AM   #17 
  - Yes and no. Unless they offshore their endowments  48percenter   Dec-03-08 05:18 AM   #18 
  - That's what Newsweek magazine reported twenty years ago  TheBorealAvenger   Dec-03-08 05:56 AM   #22 
  - Many of them sit on billions in endowments and only grant a few scholarships  harun   Dec-03-08 06:35 AM   #28 
  - Exactly. It's a racket.  acmavm   Dec-03-08 06:50 AM   #29 
  - The Ivies, however, are moving toward more financial aid  KamaAina   Dec-03-08 12:47 PM   #61 
     - My friend says Cornell hasn't move an inch, he hasn't been there in a couple  harun   Dec-03-08 02:45 PM   #68 
  - This is what's crazy about a lot of colleges.  KillCapitalism   Dec-03-08 09:47 AM   #43 
  - It's called 'making the window smaller' for those who follow.  antimatter98   Dec-03-08 05:49 AM   #20 
  - This is why virtually every college  pipoman   Dec-03-08 05:52 AM   #21 
  - But we need a worker class...  Baby Snooks   Dec-03-08 06:07 AM   #23 
  - Good post. I agree they have been working on creating more  harun   Dec-03-08 07:52 AM   #32 
  - College Educations Could Be Delivered More Efficiently  yellowwood   Dec-03-08 06:12 AM   #24 
  - Why can't lectures be taped?  progressive_realist   Dec-03-08 08:15 AM   #34 
  - Just not the same  MadHound   Dec-03-08 12:35 PM   #57 
     - My educational experience is different, I guess.  progressive_realist   Dec-03-08 03:26 PM   #69 
  - This is so true. I don't understand why there aren't more options.  OnionPatch   Dec-03-08 08:44 AM   #38 
  - Ambivalent  SimpleTrend   Dec-03-08 06:15 AM   #25 
  - Education confers shifty morals? That's bullshit and you ought to know better.  dbaker41   Dec-03-08 10:03 AM   #46 
  - I make no apologies for the hard lessons I have learned in life  SimpleTrend   Dec-03-08 12:15 PM   #55 
     - Morals are learned (or not learned, as the case may be) long before college  dbaker41   Dec-03-08 12:29 PM   #56 
     - The semantic distinctions between "ethics" and "morals" bores me.  SimpleTrend   Dec-03-08 12:39 PM   #58 
        - I made no such "semantic distinction"  dbaker41   Dec-03-08 01:03 PM   #62 
           - When someone says another's ideas are "bullshit"  SimpleTrend   Dec-03-08 01:40 PM   #64 
     - Thank goodness your arrogant ignorance doesn't make your anecdotal evidence meaningful in any way.  Zhade   Dec-03-08 06:21 PM   #79 
  - Correlation is not causation.  Zhade   Dec-03-08 06:19 PM   #78 
     - Got anymore whoppers to tell?  SimpleTrend   Dec-03-08 08:47 PM   #81 
  - Probably the most effective way  Turbineguy   Dec-03-08 06:17 AM   #26 
  - Lets get Waxman involved  Maryland Liberal   Dec-03-08 06:29 AM   #27 
  - That is wrong. And I really wish someone could answer this:  JerseygirlCT   Dec-03-08 07:05 AM   #30 
  - What does this say about America?  Bragi   Dec-03-08 07:48 AM   #31 
  - We intend to freeload  progressive_realist   Dec-03-08 08:25 AM   #36 
  - That we're zooming back to the 17th century  MountainLaurel   Dec-03-08 03:30 PM   #71 
  - Why?  jfkraus   Dec-03-08 08:08 AM   #33 
  - Are you sure about those numbers?  n2doc   Dec-03-08 09:05 AM   #40 
  - The ideal situation from a neoliberal perspective. The country can go to hell, but  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Dec-03-08 08:20 AM   #35 
  - Ah, just the way TPTB want it.... BTW, "Student Loan" is an oxymoron.  Prag   Dec-03-08 08:32 AM   #37 
  - Exactly. Send more people off to DeVry so they learn just what they need to do their job  Toucano   Dec-03-08 10:19 AM   #48 
     - It's all smut anyway.  Prag   Dec-03-08 10:40 AM   #52 
  - But America will still be the #1 third world nation on the planet!  LynnTheDem   Dec-03-08 09:03 AM   #39 
  - Let's not exagerrate....  WriteDown   Dec-03-08 09:53 AM   #45 
     - We're below 3rd world status on many issues. And we're fast adding  LynnTheDem   Dec-03-08 10:38 AM   #50 
        - Please illuminate me....  WriteDown   Dec-03-08 10:39 AM   #51 
           - Infant mortality  MountainLaurel   Dec-03-08 03:29 PM   #70 
           - We had an actual poster who studied infant mortality...  WriteDown   Dec-03-08 03:33 PM   #72 
           - Google US infant mortality rate, for starters.  LynnTheDem   Dec-03-08 07:42 PM   #80 
              - Premies are considered DOA in 3rd world and don't count in the stats  Psephos   Dec-04-08 11:03 PM   #89 
  - Not to worry....  OhioChick   Dec-03-08 09:37 AM   #42 
  - there are several reasons for the  melm00se   Dec-03-08 09:47 AM   #44 
  - It's a racket.  Toucano   Dec-03-08 10:16 AM   #47 
  - Time to nationalize private college education  AlphaCentauri   Dec-03-08 10:28 AM   #49 
  - Look for community colleges and associate's degrees to become the standard of "higher" education.  AngryOldDem   Dec-03-08 11:21 AM   #53 
  - I think this is a good thing  TwixVoy   Dec-03-08 12:06 PM   #54 
  - College has always been Unaffordable for MOST in US  JJ   Dec-03-08 12:39 PM   #59 
  - No kidding  BluePatriot   Dec-03-08 01:46 PM   #65 
  - Kick & recommend... I can't say anything nice... so I won't say anything at all...  Azlady   Dec-03-08 03:50 PM   #73 
  - I think green collar jobs will be the wave of the future  RainDog   Dec-03-08 04:05 PM   #74 
  - I wasn't aware that people can afford college now.  readmoreoften   Dec-03-08 05:07 PM   #75 
  - Mission Accomplished!  sarcasmo   Dec-03-08 05:35 PM   #76 
  - We need universal college education.  Zhade   Dec-03-08 06:17 PM   #77 
  - hell, i was in college in the 90s and it was damn near unaffordable then  Blue_Tires   Dec-03-08 11:13 PM   #82 
  - As opposed to now?  BlueIris   Dec-03-08 11:16 PM   #83 
  - This is surprising?  davidthegnome   Dec-04-08 12:21 AM   #84 
  - College education does NOT guarantee a good job.  Perragrande   Dec-04-08 01:35 AM   #85 
  - Talk about stacking the deck:  surrealAmerican   Dec-04-08 11:38 AM   #87 
  - Kick!  XemaSab   Dec-04-08 09:04 PM   #88 

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