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Sat Dec-06-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #102 |
| -Chavez renews reelection ambition |
EconomicLiberal |
Nov-30-08 10:49 PM |
#0 |
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There are Chavez defenders on DU? |
halo experiment |
Nov-30-08 10:54 PM |
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Yes. Plus, they tend to read the whole OP article too. |
Billy Burnett |
Dec-01-08 09:27 AM |
#33 |
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Some of us find the selectivity of the outrage curious. Uribe's 2005 changes to Colombia's |
struggle4progress |
Dec-02-08 10:19 AM |
#94 |
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Haha.. Thanks For Posting That |
Crisco |
Dec-02-08 02:23 PM |
#113 |
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We didn't hear a peep from these same people when it was revealed that Uribe's people BRIBED |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-02-08 02:40 PM |
#115 |
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LOL! |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-02-08 02:52 PM |
#118 |
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As a matter of fact, |
ronnie624 |
Dec-03-08 11:33 AM |
#128 |
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Of course if GWB propsed repealing the 22nd Amendment, everyone here would be (rightfully) outraged. |
Teh_Rabble_Rouser |
Nov-30-08 10:55 PM |
#2 |
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some people would |
dwickham |
Nov-30-08 10:57 PM |
#5 |
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with 20% approval rate I'd be worry about it n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-01-08 09:50 AM |
#36 |
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What if Barack proposed repeal of the 22nd amendment ? |
ohio2007 |
Dec-01-08 05:17 PM |
#66 |
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they don't post anything that may be critical of St. Hugo |
dwickham |
Nov-30-08 10:56 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-30-08 11:23 PM |
#11 |
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yet another whatever post for me |
dwickham |
Dec-01-08 12:08 AM |
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I have no problem with Chavez putting it to a vote |
rpannier |
Dec-01-08 02:57 AM |
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In theory I don't have a problem |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 07:18 AM |
#27 |
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The difference being... |
rpannier |
Dec-01-08 05:09 PM |
#64 |
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he put it to a vote already...it was shot down but he is ready this time |
ohio2007 |
Dec-01-08 05:30 PM |
#67 |
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I didn't know that |
dwickham |
Dec-02-08 01:13 AM |
#87 |
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fantastic news |
Alamuti Lotus |
Nov-30-08 10:56 PM |
#4 |
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like Castro? |
dwickham |
Nov-30-08 10:58 PM |
#6 |
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Like Castro what? |
bitchkitty |
Dec-02-08 11:10 AM |
#99 |
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the problem with that is the state becomes inextricably entwined |
cali |
Dec-01-08 07:56 AM |
#30 |
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Says who? n/t |
ronnie624 |
Dec-01-08 09:41 AM |
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a state needs to be able to pass its leadership from one person |
cali |
Dec-01-08 10:01 AM |
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A state can do nothing other than pass its leadership from one person to another. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-01-08 01:21 PM |
#44 |
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Valid point |
rpannier |
Dec-02-08 01:20 AM |
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So "a plan to seek a constitutional amendment" is a power grab? |
Wilms |
Nov-30-08 11:00 PM |
#7 |
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He lost in the same referendum last year. |
EconomicLiberal |
Nov-30-08 11:04 PM |
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Oh. I see. |
Wilms |
Nov-30-08 11:09 PM |
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He's trying to strong arm his way to endless re-election. |
EconomicLiberal |
Nov-30-08 11:18 PM |
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Yeah. Elections should be cancelled. |
Wilms |
Nov-30-08 11:25 PM |
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The ironic thing about this whole situation is that we know people like you |
EconomicLiberal |
Nov-30-08 11:29 PM |
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GWB would not be following the Constitutional process to overturn the 22nd Amendment |
Larkspur |
Nov-30-08 11:39 PM |
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how exactly would the SCOTUS rule a CONSTITUTIONAL amendment |
Endangered Specie |
Dec-01-08 01:15 AM |
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They did with prohibition |
JonQ |
Dec-01-08 03:51 PM |
#60 |
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You might want to read up on the 21st amendment. |
tritsofme |
Dec-01-08 06:21 PM |
#73 |
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No prohibition was repealed by another amendment |
Endangered Specie |
Dec-01-08 10:28 PM |
#82 |
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Hugo Chavez is not GWB |
StClone |
Dec-01-08 04:49 AM |
#24 |
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The public already voted, and they rejected him. |
tritsofme |
Dec-01-08 06:24 PM |
#74 |
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So what's your beef? |
StClone |
Dec-02-08 12:36 PM |
#104 |
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Most Venezuelans do not consider |
bitchkitty |
Dec-03-08 10:24 AM |
#125 |
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Can you answer a question |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 07:20 AM |
#28 |
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If GWB had a 65% approval rating |
ronnie624 |
Dec-01-08 09:55 AM |
#38 |
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Oh please |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 12:42 PM |
#43 |
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Repeated referenda are allowed in this country, though not at the fed level. |
High Plains |
Dec-01-08 01:23 PM |
#45 |
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What you like or dislike about the Venezuelan government is irrelevant. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-01-08 01:24 PM |
#46 |
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I know that |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 02:18 PM |
#49 |
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Your point is elusive. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-01-08 11:19 PM |
#84 |
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Do you honestly believe that anything he could do would silence his critics? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 01:48 PM |
#48 |
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You are right |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 02:20 PM |
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I think it's okay for him to try. On the other hand, I'd also like to see |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 02:26 PM |
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That's what I'd like to know, too |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 03:02 PM |
#57 |
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I'm going to dig around in the next coupla days. If I post a thread, |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 03:04 PM |
#58 |
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Thanks. |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-01-08 03:45 PM |
#59 |
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I found this article which has a lot of names of up and comers. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-02-08 02:14 PM |
#110 |
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If Venezuelan law allows for repeated attempts at constitutional revision, |
ronnie624 |
Dec-01-08 11:37 PM |
#85 |
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They feel their power over sovereign people by extension through their aggressive |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-02-08 12:20 AM |
#86 |
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"an issue cannot be consulted twice during the same term in office" |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-02-08 03:13 PM |
#120 |
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Trying to stir up trouble again, Bacchus? |
Zorro |
Dec-02-08 09:20 PM |
#121 |
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"In his opinion" |
ronnie624 |
Dec-02-08 11:19 PM |
#122 |
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Does Venezuelan law |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-03-08 08:08 AM |
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I just happen to have a copy which I have read in its entirety. |
ronnie624 |
Dec-03-08 09:52 AM |
#124 |
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Everybody makes mistakes, little buddy. |
AngryAmish |
Dec-01-08 03:55 PM |
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It's mine. Mine. MINE! |
onehandle |
Nov-30-08 11:32 PM |
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such an ignorant response |
subsuelo |
Dec-01-08 09:27 AM |
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I like Chávez, but I've always thought this is a bad idea... |
arcos |
Dec-01-08 12:34 AM |
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I agree. nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Dec-01-08 10:03 AM |
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I don't know how I feel about him being re-elected. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 11:49 AM |
#42 |
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Couldn't he just pull a Putin? |
Endangered Specie |
Dec-01-08 01:14 AM |
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He will go out kicking and screaming. |
Winnipegosis |
Dec-01-08 01:15 AM |
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The U.S. Constitution didn't place term limits on the executive branch until after FDR's 4 terms. nt |
w4rma |
Dec-01-08 01:27 AM |
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There are several rather biased 'framings' in the way this article is written, and |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-01-08 03:34 AM |
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Would disagree on one point (though I can't prove it) |
rpannier |
Dec-01-08 04:56 AM |
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he lost your support over that? |
subsuelo |
Dec-01-08 09:21 AM |
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The voters have spoken clearly |
Mudoria |
Dec-01-08 07:47 AM |
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I guess the voters will decide what is best for them n/t |
AlphaCentauri |
Dec-01-08 09:52 AM |
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That is the problem, Murdoria. A 50.7% vs 49.3% vote is NOT clear. It was not |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-02-08 10:06 AM |
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Viva Chavez!!!! America benifitted greatly from FDR's four terms. |
Vidar |
Dec-01-08 06:40 AM |
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Maybe not.... |
WriteDown |
Dec-01-08 01:45 PM |
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Didn't we get into some kind of a war during the FDR administration? |
slackmaster |
Dec-01-08 02:48 PM |
#54 |
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That may have helped.... |
WriteDown |
Dec-01-08 02:50 PM |
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Thanks for replying to whomever. I have him on "ignore" & he stays there. |
Vidar |
Dec-01-08 05:31 PM |
#68 |
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The economists you cite are free-market, "trickle-down" shills |
brentspeak |
Dec-01-08 10:58 PM |
#83 |
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Please cite other articles refuting it then.... |
WriteDown |
Dec-03-08 11:20 AM |
#126 |
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Most people do not pay capital gain taxes on their primary residences |
wuushew |
Dec-06-08 03:51 PM |
#138 |
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Good, I hope he succeeds. |
subsuelo |
Dec-01-08 09:20 AM |
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Power grabs are not voted on by the electorate. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 11:46 AM |
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I'm against all term limits |
aldo |
Dec-01-08 02:39 PM |
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I thought only conservatives did whatever was necessary to stay in power |
slackmaster |
Dec-01-08 02:46 PM |
#53 |
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Like call for a vote? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 02:57 PM |
#56 |
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You're going to get flamed for this |
JonQ |
Dec-01-08 04:37 PM |
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Except he didn't say that. He said that if the opposition kept trying to |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 04:58 PM |
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Thanks for illustrating my point |
JonQ |
Dec-01-08 05:55 PM |
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No, you didn't. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 05:59 PM |
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Oh well |
JonQ |
Dec-01-08 06:10 PM |
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Chavez's statement was clear from the outset and I hope |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-01-08 06:29 PM |
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So clear in fact |
JonQ |
Dec-01-08 06:54 PM |
#79 |
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80% of any communication never makes it into words. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-02-08 02:16 PM |
#111 |
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here is Chavez himself saying he would take out the tanks if the opposition wins |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-02-08 10:54 AM |
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That's bs and you know it. You read and understand Spanish. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-02-08 11:31 AM |
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yes, but apparently you don't. "....if they return to governing,..... |
Bacchus39 |
Dec-02-08 11:40 AM |
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He said he's send tanks against fascist coup plotters. I say "wonderful!" |
David__77 |
Dec-01-08 06:38 PM |
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No |
JonQ |
Dec-01-08 08:31 PM |
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He referred to the oligarchy, not to an election opponent. |
David__77 |
Dec-02-08 02:26 AM |
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plus he took time to clear the whole thing up |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-08 08:14 AM |
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He cleared it up |
JonQ |
Dec-02-08 10:44 AM |
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good lord man think about what you are saying |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-08 11:05 AM |
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By adding important |
JonQ |
Dec-02-08 11:42 AM |
#103 |
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Why is it so painful to just accept the amended remarks? |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-08 12:47 PM |
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Why not accept |
JonQ |
Dec-02-08 12:51 PM |
#106 |
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Why would he lie? |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-08 01:03 PM |
#107 |
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Why would a politician lie? |
JonQ |
Dec-02-08 01:16 PM |
#108 |
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Please, that's such an evasive answer |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-08 02:10 PM |
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Because he recieved a great deal of negative press about it |
JonQ |
Dec-02-08 02:17 PM |
#112 |
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You apparently have not taken the time away from posting to inform yourself regarding Ve. elections. |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-02-08 02:30 PM |
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Chavez the tyrant? |
subsuelo |
Dec-02-08 02:51 PM |
#117 |
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It isn't rocket science to determine that Saddam had fake elections |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-02-08 02:53 PM |
#119 |
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No |
JonQ |
Dec-02-08 10:42 AM |
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he must stand down in 2012 unless |
ohio2007 |
Dec-01-08 05:14 PM |
#65 |
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So Venezuelans Get to Vote for it? Your Problem is...? |
fascisthunter |
Dec-01-08 05:35 PM |
#69 |
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None of them have a problem with Uribe. |
bitchkitty |
Dec-06-08 03:38 PM |
#137 |
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I hope the crash of the oil market does the same thing to the Chavez government. |
tritsofme |
Dec-01-08 06:28 PM |
#75 |
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I think it's a good idea. |
David__77 |
Dec-01-08 06:36 PM |
#77 |
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"Power Grab?" |
The Traveler |
Dec-01-08 08:54 PM |
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He's like the Parti Quebecois: keeping running referenda |
robcon |
Dec-02-08 06:29 AM |
#90 |
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Power grab? |
BklnDem75 |
Dec-02-08 08:30 AM |
#92 |
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President For Life! |
onehandle |
Dec-02-08 11:42 AM |
#102 |
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. . . |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-06-08 03:07 PM |
#136 |
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I personally cannot stand Chavez, |
Codeine |
Dec-02-08 02:46 PM |
#116 |
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In 1993 the voters of NYC passed a term limit referendum on the Mayor. |
SOS |
Dec-03-08 11:27 AM |
#127 |
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From What I've Heard from Venezuelans, |
ribofunk |
Dec-03-08 04:05 PM |
#129 |
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Venezuelan students begin campaigning against indefinite reelection |
ohio2007 |
Dec-03-08 07:29 PM |
#130 |
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Venezuelan student groups are on the payroll of the U.S. government, thanks to right-wing a-holes |
Judi Lynn |
Dec-03-08 07:34 PM |
#131 |
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ahhhhh. no citizen is worthy of the Bolivar ian revolution .... I see. All are collaborators |
ohio2007 |
Dec-06-08 03:01 PM |
#133 |
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No, it's simply that some of those student groups get your tax money |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-06-08 03:03 PM |
#134 |
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PBS: Front Line's "The Hugo Chavez Show" video 7 of 8 |
ohio2007 |
Dec-06-08 02:57 PM |
#132 |
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The RCTV story has been debunked here ad nauseum. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-06-08 03:06 PM |
#135 |
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