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61. "Dead Peasant's Insurance" ....
Edited on Fri Nov-28-08 11:55 AM by understandinglife
One of the hottest recent discoveries by investigative journalists is the sleazy practice known as "dead peasants’ insurance," which is allegedly used by some of our best known big corporations — such as Wal-Mart and Enron. Officially called Corporate-Owned Life Insurance (COLI), this practice has been going on below the radar since the 1980s, and P&J were turned on to it by our favorite lefty in the bullpen, Dick Walton. P&J agree with Dick Walton when he says, "Just when you thought corporate America could sink no lower, you find that your imagination cannot equal that of these fiends."

Here’s how it works. Big companies with a number of low-paid employees (the practice is also known as "dead janitors’ insurance") buy life insurance on those low-ranking employees — sometimes without their knowledge — to get tax breaks, as well as to collect benefits when a covered employee died. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported, "Corporations gain not merely from the tax-free life insurance benefits they receive when current or former employees die, but also can borrow money against these policies. Many companies even deducted the interest on these loans from their taxes." It is legal in some states, but not in others (which have emerged from the ghoulish Dark Ages of squalid business dealings). For some of these companies, death benefits go to pay for executive bonuses and perks.


<clip>Enough already. There is not anything for sale in Wal-Mart even free that is worth a human life. We should be ashamed of ourselves as a country for lapsing into such mindless consumerism. Even in a time of economic trouble, too many amongst us would rather mindlessly consume than reflect on what the most important things are in life.


Indeed. Enough.

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  New meaning of Black Friday. Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Frid no_hypocrisy  Nov-28-08 10:12 AM   #0 
   Jeesus, how stupid.  tekisui   Nov-28-08 10:13 AM   #1 
   WalMart Takes Life Insurance Out On Many Workers Where WalMart Is The Beneficiary  rcsl1998   Nov-28-08 03:58 PM   #170 
   I remember reading that was one of their "better business " practices.  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 05:03 PM   #185 
   A lot of companies do that  proud2Blib   Nov-29-08 01:07 PM   #268 
   I was thinking the same thing until I saw their prices on XBoxes  TheEuclideanOne   Nov-28-08 06:04 PM   #213 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-08 08:43 PM   #236 
   Good God... Dying a horrendous death on behalf of Walmart!  hlthe2b   Nov-28-08 10:13 AM   #2 
   Wal*Mart better pay up to the families who suffered losses.  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 10:14 AM   #4 
   More likely WalMart had a life insurance policy on the employee  rurallib   Nov-28-08 10:20 AM   #9 
   Yeah, no surprise there. Can the families bring a wrongful death suit against them? It's not  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 10:23 AM   #11 
   Something tells me they have probably already started intimidating  rurallib   Nov-28-08 10:28 AM   #15 
   My bet is they offer a small amount of money in exchange for not being sued. Probably give them  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 10:33 AM   #17 
   That does happen. A very successful business woman, whose huband's business  1monster   Nov-28-08 12:42 PM   #86 
   Excellent post. More people need to be aware of this information. There must be groups out there  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 01:43 PM   #127 
   A small amount in the form of  Sherman A1   Nov-28-08 01:10 PM   #106 
   Here's how Wal-Crook will get out of any litigation...  Prag   Nov-28-08 12:41 PM   #83 
      Bingo. Wal-Mart won't pay a dime. They hire temps for this very reason.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 02:56 PM   #152 
         it says here he was a temp. maintenance worker  CountAllVotes   Nov-28-08 03:33 PM   #162 
            a maintenence employee is not a security officer, which is who they needed  SemperEadem   Nov-28-08 04:54 PM   #182 
               I hope not. Wal-Mart created the unsafe situation and put everyone at risk.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 07:18 PM   #222 
               one thing is for sure  CountAllVotes   Nov-28-08 09:14 PM   #240 
   No, they should sue the SHOPPERS they are the ones that did it.  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:05 PM   #99 
      Bullshit. Wal-Pigs created the situation where this happened  ItsTheMediaStupid   Nov-28-08 01:21 PM   #112 
      It happened on Wal*Mart property under conditions they provided. They could easily have  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 01:51 PM   #131 
      Exactly.  Window   Nov-28-08 06:04 PM   #215 
      Wrong!  minnesota_liberal   Nov-28-08 03:05 PM   #156 
      I happen to agree with you.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-29-08 09:13 AM   #259 
   "Dead Peasant's Insurance" ....  understandinglife   Nov-28-08 11:55 AM   #61 
      I heard that they keep it going  arikara   Nov-28-08 02:29 PM   #142 
      Supposedly, Dead Peasant Insurance is illegal in Florida, but some  1monster   Nov-28-08 03:35 PM   #164 
      This needs to become illegal nationwide.  Bette Noir   Nov-28-08 05:01 PM   #184 
   It's Wal-Mart; they'll bill the victim's family for cleanup, probably (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-28-08 03:25 PM   #161 
   I blame the unruly mob not the store.  emilyg   Nov-28-08 08:15 PM   #226 
   Unbelievable. I hate our consumer mindset in this country. I used to buy into it but  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 10:14 AM   #3 
   I did too............  rucognizant   Nov-28-08 02:44 PM   #149 
   How desperate does a group have to be to trample someone to death?  OhioBlues   Nov-28-08 10:14 AM   #5 
   What's even more sickening....the store stayed open and customers saved $$$!!!!  file83   Nov-28-08 12:12 PM   #66 
   No. they closed the store down. It's in the article. n/t  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:06 PM   #100 
   Will they sue the dead woman's family  FloridaJudy   Nov-28-08 03:33 PM   #163 
   They closed the store.  emilyg   Nov-28-08 08:15 PM   #227 
      Only for a few hours.  kath   Nov-29-08 12:33 AM   #245 
   More like "insane" than "desperate"  jmowreader   Nov-28-08 12:14 PM   #69 
   True, and no one NEEDS a job in retail sales  MicaelS   Nov-28-08 12:30 PM   #80 
   A job is a need; an HDTV is a want  jmowreader   Nov-28-08 01:40 PM   #124 
   Imagine what all that phrenetic human energy could accomplish if it was aimed  bushmeister0   Nov-28-08 03:14 PM   #157 
   "Amazing how so many people in this country just "know" what other people "need"."  eShirl   Nov-28-08 01:45 PM   #129 
   It really doesn't take a lot of imagination my friend!  Butch350   Nov-28-08 08:55 PM   #237 
   Bullshit  ekwhite   Nov-29-08 01:20 AM   #247 
   Amazing how some people are so addicted to stuff that they truly  clear eye   Nov-28-08 04:49 PM   #180 
   It's those "Quantities strictly limited" sales that need to stop.  Bette Noir   Nov-28-08 05:05 PM   #186 
   they do this every year, last year they knocked some woman unconcious.  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:03 PM   #97 
   A perfect punchline on the joke that is Christmas in this country.  cliffordu   Nov-28-08 10:15 AM   #6 
   they should let few people in at a time.  JI7   Nov-28-08 10:15 AM   #7 
   They want the chaos... Suggests big demand on TV....  hlthe2b   Nov-28-08 10:18 AM   #8 
   Apparently, that's what happened  BattyDem   Nov-28-08 12:29 PM   #79 
   It is a mob/herd mentality. People revert to their instinctual monkey nature  MUAD_DIB   Nov-28-08 12:42 PM   #85 
   Right. That's why I avoid sports arenas, too. nt  valerief   Nov-28-08 12:59 PM   #91 
   And the constant fighting. I was tricked into going on Black Friday once  DeepBlueDem   Nov-28-08 01:45 PM   #128 
   what a bunch of thugs , fucking disgusting  JI7   Nov-28-08 06:57 PM   #220 
   The guy who was killed was trying to do just that--  clear eye   Nov-28-08 04:53 PM   #181 
   How is this possible with the economy they way it is?  Xenotime   Nov-28-08 10:23 AM   #10 
   Wal*Mart is pretty cheap compared to a lot of places. Perhaps there were  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-28-08 10:25 AM   #12 
   It is called working  bamalib   Nov-28-08 12:16 PM   #70 
      Stories? Drama? Is that you, Phil Gramm..  Waiting For Everyman   Nov-28-08 08:29 PM   #232 
   who's going to jail?  harmonicon   Nov-28-08 10:27 AM   #13 
   My question is who punches his time clock?  file83   Nov-28-08 12:17 PM   #71 
   The SHOPPERS who did this should go to jail. n/t  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:06 PM   #101 
      them and others too, I would think  harmonicon   Nov-28-08 02:33 PM   #145 
   How horrific..  gypsymuse   Nov-28-08 10:27 AM   #14 
   Wal-Mart kills and supports Chinese atrocities.  onehandle   Nov-28-08 10:32 AM   #16 
   fucking animals  DS1   Nov-28-08 10:34 AM   #18 
   On behalf of animals I respectfully request that you withdraw that  Peregrine Took   Nov-28-08 08:33 PM   #233 
   that's horribly sad  AusDem   Nov-28-08 10:36 AM   # 
   Bet this becomes the plotline for a Law & Order episode  ayeshahaqqiqa   Nov-28-08 10:36 AM   #19 
   Actually, there was an episode of Law and Order recently  Pharlo   Nov-28-08 03:17 PM   #158 
   Oh yeah, I saw that  ayeshahaqqiqa   Nov-28-08 03:46 PM   #168 
   That was a good one...  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 05:09 PM   #189 
   I love your sig line!  FloridaJudy   Nov-28-08 03:38 PM   #167 
   I'm thinking _Boston Legal_, with Alan Shore doing the rant. nt  tblue37   Nov-28-08 06:48 PM   #219 
   there's something terribly wrong with this country when people  UpInArms   Nov-28-08 10:37 AM   #20 
   Agreed. There is blood on EVERY FUCKING ONEs hands who..  Xenotime   Nov-28-08 10:39 AM   #22 
   so what are you saying?  skepticscott   Nov-28-08 01:59 PM   #132 
   Yes! I never shop on Black Friday. And rarely go into Wal Mart.  Acadia Blue   Nov-28-08 06:00 PM   #211 
   Sometimes I think we've peaked as a species and are now in steep decline. NT  NRaleighLiberal   Nov-28-08 10:39 AM   #21 
   We are DEVO n/t  drmeow   Nov-28-08 04:04 PM   #172 
   Amazing to go and buy even cheaper Chinese crap...its not worth it.  Historic NY   Nov-28-08 10:40 AM   #23 
   May be it's time to ban limited supply loss-leaders  TrogL   Nov-28-08 10:45 AM   #24 
   Exactly.  Hansel   Nov-28-08 01:25 PM   #117 
   Everyone in those crowds should be arrested and put in jail.  Meldread   Nov-28-08 10:46 AM   #25 
   I'll ascribe some of the fault to WM  wtmusic   Nov-28-08 10:54 AM   #26 
   Wal-Mart created the setting - allowing a few things to be sold at really  higher class   Nov-28-08 11:12 AM   #34 
   Until we see a video  BecauseBushSaysSo   Nov-28-08 02:04 PM   #133 
   Considering that Riot Control Police arrest peaceful people at peace rallies...  file83   Nov-28-08 12:21 PM   #72 
   yes!  dana_b   Nov-28-08 01:18 PM   #111 
   That's a very good point!  Raksha   Nov-28-08 05:53 PM   #208 
   Truer words were never spoken  Downtown Hound   Nov-28-08 08:41 PM   #235 
   We are speaking of Wall Mart  quakerboy   Nov-29-08 02:31 AM   #250 
   It is Wal-Mart's fault for creating the dangerous situation. They didn't protect people.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 12:22 PM   #73 
   Penny pinching Wal Mart. No security, and no planning.  Acadia Blue   Nov-28-08 06:01 PM   #212 
   abso-fucking-lutely!! I wouldn't behave like that, regardless of the "deal"  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:08 PM   #102 
   see my post 132 above  skepticscott   Nov-28-08 02:09 PM   #137 
   Make them all work as temps at Wal-Muck for the rest of their lives!  bushmeister0   Nov-28-08 03:22 PM   #159 
   As a farmer I object to that remark  English Lady   Nov-28-08 04:39 PM   #178 
   What a culture. I wonder if the people responsible for killing this poor worker learned  harun   Nov-28-08 10:59 AM   #27 
   Thge news said that people kept rushing in after the guy fell down, was crushed, and  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 05:11 PM   #190 
      Not surprised. We live in a society of the "I" not the "We".  harun   Nov-29-08 12:29 PM   #266 
   and some red state moran  CitizenPatriot   Nov-28-08 11:00 AM   #28 
   Sadly, this happens every single year  strategery blunder   Nov-28-08 11:04 AM   #29 
   absolutely walmart has some responsibility in this - crowd control is  brandnewlaptop   Nov-28-08 11:05 AM   #30 
   this happened in Dec. '05 at WalMart: they took the last DVD player  MisterP   Nov-28-08 05:51 PM   #204 
   That gives me images of Dawn of the Dead for some reason  slackmaster   Nov-28-08 11:05 AM   #31 
   my first thought  d_b   Nov-28-08 11:27 AM   #47 
   OMG. You're sooooo right. nt  valerief   Nov-28-08 01:00 PM   #92 
   It's time we made a serious effort to de-escalate the Christmas shopping / giving feedback loop  stubtoe   Nov-28-08 11:09 AM   #32 
   Doubt if very many of those shoppers were looking for gifts to give  Wednesdays   Nov-28-08 11:17 AM   #38 
   Bingo! They sell this stuff on EBAY. You always see it the next day after Black Friday.  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:16 PM   #110 
   Amen!!  dana_b   Nov-28-08 01:21 PM   #114 
   It's not like it hasn't been tried ....  GOTV   Nov-28-08 01:33 PM   #121 
      I bought nothing today myself.  ekwhite   Nov-29-08 01:33 AM   #248 
   Are all those eager shoppers going to tell the recipients of their gifts  shadowknows69   Nov-28-08 11:11 AM   #33 
   Who do you blame, Wal-Mart or the morons going after the deals?  liberal N proud   Nov-28-08 11:12 AM   #35 
   Wal-Mart! This happened last year. They could have set up plans  whutgives   Nov-28-08 11:16 AM   #36 
   Exactly  liberal N proud   Nov-28-08 11:17 AM   #39 
   BOTH! But the mob is more to blame. I know of no one that would act that way..  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:13 PM   #107 
      Mob mentality  liberal N proud   Nov-28-08 02:10 PM   #138 
   What was on sale that would cause such a commotion?  The Backlash Cometh   Nov-28-08 11:17 AM   #37 
   $400 Laptops, $600 Flat Screen TV's  liberal N proud   Nov-28-08 11:19 AM   #41 
   Fry's Electronics has a laptop on sale for $299.  file83   Nov-28-08 12:22 PM   #74 
      I saw that advertised last night  dana_b   Nov-28-08 01:23 PM   #116 
   Remember Cabbage Patch Dolls?  slackmaster   Nov-28-08 11:32 AM   #49 
      yeah, like Teddy Ruxpin  704wipes   Nov-28-08 08:22 PM   #228 
      I Worked  RobinA   Nov-28-08 11:48 PM   #244 
   I do hope,.....  JimboBillyBubbaBob   Nov-28-08 11:18 AM   #40 
   You really think the surveillance tape will see the light of day?  Wednesdays   Nov-28-08 11:22 AM   #43 
   Obviously greed and materialism is more important than life. nt  jwirr   Nov-28-08 11:21 AM   #42 
   P.E.T.W.W.  NOW tense   Nov-28-08 11:23 AM   #44 
   what a buncha fucking freaks  d_b   Nov-28-08 11:23 AM   #45 
   i'm surprised that hasn't happened more often in these stampedes  Blue_Tires   Nov-28-08 11:25 AM   #46 
   Good God, that is so senseless.  liberalmuse   Nov-28-08 11:30 AM   #48 
   The article says that the shopping continued.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 12:25 PM   #77 
   They used to have the bridal dress sales at Filenes Basement in Boston.  MUAD_DIB   Nov-28-08 01:04 PM   #98 
   christmas zombies unleashed!!!  scarface2004   Nov-28-08 11:37 AM   #50 
   This is surreal. Apparently the humanity in a lot of humans is nonexistant.  acmavm   Nov-28-08 11:38 AM   #51 
   Images of the French Revolution come to mind  CitizenPatriot   Nov-28-08 11:38 AM   #52 
   Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede  DogPoundPup   Nov-28-08 11:40 AM   #53 
   What a sick society this is! What will it take, armed guards!?! n.t  BridgeTheGap   Nov-28-08 11:40 AM   #54 
   WTF is WRONG with people????  kestrel91316   Nov-28-08 11:40 AM   #55 
   Cops should have shut everyone in the crime scene (store) IN, and held them all responsible...  demodonkey   Nov-28-08 11:40 AM   #56 
   Hell yes they should have  shadowknows69   Nov-28-08 01:03 PM   #96 
   Lots of things can incite a riot or a stampede. The sad part of this story is  gristy   Nov-28-08 11:40 AM   #57 
   Great way to celebrate Christ's birthday. Just great....  demodonkey   Nov-28-08 11:44 AM   #58 
   and 200 people just kept rushing past and over this man . . .  OneBlueSky   Nov-28-08 11:47 AM   #59 
   I can believe it . . .  DollyM   Nov-28-08 12:01 PM   #65 
   Hugs to your mother and your family.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 12:27 PM   #78 
   And the majority of these "doorbuster shoppers" SELL the shit on EBAY the next day!!!  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:10 PM   #104 
   all for some cheap crap that will wind up in the trash by feburary  Serge A Storms   Nov-28-08 11:54 AM   #60 
   Try Buy Nothing Day today...  RoccoR5955   Nov-28-08 11:55 AM   #62 
   THE OUTRAGE SHOULD ALSO BE the store stayed open with a dead person lying in the door!  DogPoundPup   Nov-28-08 11:58 AM   #63 
   No, they closed the store.  cryingshame   Nov-28-08 12:43 PM   #87 
      Probably only because it was the scene of a murder. nt  valerief   Nov-28-08 01:01 PM   #93 
         No, I'm sure they were HORRIFIED that their fellow employee was killed by those assholes.  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:14 PM   #108 
            If headquarters said to keep it open, it would stay open. Coworkers feelings play no role in these  valerief   Nov-28-08 01:36 PM   #123 
   So, this is what the world falling apart looks like.  Liberal_Lurker   Nov-28-08 11:59 AM   #64 
   I lay the blame with the store manager  Gargoyle   Nov-28-08 12:12 PM   #67 
   I blame the frenzied greedy shitheads who can't control themselves  DS1   Nov-28-08 12:23 PM   #75 
   disgusting  Skittles   Nov-28-08 12:13 PM   #68 
   The End of Consumer Capitalism  iamahaingttta   Nov-28-08 12:25 PM   #76 
   Yet another reason I don't shop at Walmart.  kmlewis   Nov-28-08 12:35 PM   #81 
   The news said the baby was fine.--no miscarriage nt  eilen   Nov-29-08 02:23 PM   #273 
   This is what happens when people's status is so dependent on STUFF  Danmel   Nov-28-08 12:38 PM   #82 
   Baby Jesus would weep...  LiberalEsto   Nov-28-08 12:42 PM   #84 
   I embrace your past paragraph whole heartedly. This fellow's death must not be in vain.  cryingshame   Nov-28-08 12:46 PM   #88 
   Very well said  tilsammans   Nov-28-08 01:35 PM   #122 
   A movement. That's what we need.  Bette Noir   Nov-28-08 05:28 PM   #198 
      Oddly enough I'm giving a sermon about that Sunday  LiberalEsto   Nov-28-08 05:51 PM   #205 
   People would be liable in Germany for this  lebkuchen   Nov-28-08 12:48 PM   #89 
   Has Bush been prosecuted for his war crimes yet? No, it's an anything-goes crime culture here. nt  valerief   Nov-28-08 01:02 PM   #95 
   until consequence is established....  lebkuchen   Nov-28-08 01:32 PM   #120 
   Hear hear!  mvdDU Moderator   Nov-28-08 02:05 PM   #134 
   That is what we need in the US,Lebkuchen,  Kajsa   Nov-28-08 07:08 PM   #221 
      I think Americans are concerned about lawsuits/bureacratic hassle if they do help  lebkuchen   Nov-29-08 01:17 PM   #269 
         Excellent point, Lebkuchen.  Kajsa   Nov-29-08 06:40 PM   #278 
   free market capitalism at it's worst.  HEyHEY   Nov-28-08 12:55 PM   #90 
   More like mob behavior at its worst  Psephos   Nov-28-08 04:05 PM   # 
   How awful. People are pigs. I don't blame Walmart entirely, I blame the shoppers.  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:02 PM   #94 
   Walmart could have done more, but I agree..  mvdDU Moderator   Nov-28-08 02:07 PM   #136 
   I heard that the pregnant woman miscarried  lebkuchen   Nov-28-08 02:14 PM   #139 
   A woman at Kay Bee Toys got crushed trying buy a Mutant Ninja Turtle for her kid  bushmeister0   Nov-28-08 03:37 PM   #165 
      I was there for Super Mario 4 or Super Metroid or something.  Touchdown   Nov-29-08 04:44 AM   #253 
   That's sad. These people are adults?  Wetzelbill   Nov-28-08 01:09 PM   #103 
   they've posted some pics prior to the door opening  ksimons   Nov-28-08 01:10 PM   #105 
   The people BROKE down the door ahead of opening time. All to sell that shit on EBAY.  progressivebydesign   Nov-28-08 01:14 PM   #109 
   they broke it down?  DS1   Nov-28-08 01:23 PM   #115 
   No doubt. Walmart is the guilty party for willfully setting up conditions for this stampede.  gristy   Nov-28-08 01:31 PM   #119 
      Nah...  bush still has to go   Nov-28-08 02:35 PM   #147 
      Could it be called criminallly negligent homicide on the part of Wal-Mart??  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 05:15 PM   #192 
   I hope they all said "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays"  jberryhill   Nov-28-08 01:21 PM   #113 
   one worker at the door to control order....  lebkuchen   Nov-28-08 01:41 PM   #126 
      NYT says 6 - 10 workers were trying to hold crowd back  RamboLiberal   Nov-29-08 07:20 AM   #256 
   How tragic...  OhioChick   Nov-28-08 01:31 PM   #118 
   Sick. Disgusting. Horrifying. I can't think of a word strong enough to describe this.  quiet.american   Nov-28-08 01:41 PM   #125 
   it's not the first time, and it won't be the last  eShirl   Nov-28-08 01:47 PM   #130 
   How tragic and unnecessary.  Chorophyll   Nov-28-08 02:06 PM   #135 
   Wow, Mery Christmas to you, Morons.  bklyncowgirl   Nov-28-08 02:19 PM   #140 
   This article says the shoppers were escorted from the store with their  28erl   Nov-28-08 02:24 PM   #141 
   But think about the ECONOMY!!!!!!!  bush still has to go   Nov-28-08 02:33 PM   #144 
   Another death to make The Waltons richer  mntleo2   Nov-28-08 02:32 PM   #143 
   Muslims get trampled in Mecca by religious fervor. We get trampled by consumer greed.  McCamy Taylor   Nov-28-08 02:33 PM   #146 
   Even Hindus get trampled in riots of religious fervor  slackmaster   Nov-29-08 10:07 AM   #262 
   Disgusting...  Libertas1776   Nov-28-08 02:38 PM   #148 
   There's Bush's 23% Support  fascisthunter   Nov-28-08 02:47 PM   #150 
   Will this break the hold consumerism has on people?  in search of sanity   Nov-28-08 02:53 PM   #151 
   It's all forgiven as long as they keep the Christ in Christmas  AllyCat   Nov-28-08 03:03 PM   #153 
   Black Fridays at ALL stores  Iwillnevergiveup   Nov-28-08 03:03 PM   #154 
   that store should be shut down  MATTMAN   Nov-28-08 03:04 PM   #155 
   I despise Wal-Mart, but this time they are not to blame.  El Fuego   Nov-28-08 03:25 PM   #160 
   What Walmart did was incite a riot. That is against the law.  gristy   Nov-28-08 04:18 PM   #176 
      By having a SALE???  El Fuego   Nov-28-08 05:20 PM   #195 
         Heck, didn't they call it a "Door Buster"?  Bette Noir   Nov-28-08 05:34 PM   #202 
            Well, there ya go! Can't blame them for following directions well.  El Fuego   Nov-28-08 05:53 PM   #207 
   accomplice to murder  PatrynXX   Nov-28-08 03:37 PM   #166 
   A wild-eyed man from the Middle East  FloridaJudy   Nov-28-08 03:56 PM   #169 
   god bless us, everyone  frylock   Nov-28-08 04:01 PM   #171 
   Just yeserday I saw a bumper sticker that said,  Roon   Nov-28-08 05:13 PM   #191 
   Two people killed in Toys R Us in California  liberal N proud   Nov-28-08 04:05 PM   #173 
   At Least One Person Shot at Toys-R-Us in Palm Desert  no_hypocrisy   Nov-28-08 04:14 PM   #174 
   Wonder if any of them noticed the blood on their shoes later?  MetaTrope   Nov-28-08 04:16 PM   #175 
   This is a horrible tragedy, he should NOT  Kajsa   Nov-28-08 04:37 PM   #177 
   There was at least one other worker with him.  lizzy   Nov-28-08 04:47 PM   #179 
      I'm glad he wasn't alone,  Kajsa   Nov-28-08 05:05 PM   #187 
   Dear God.  Bette Noir   Nov-28-08 04:55 PM   #183 
   This was a tragedy..a real tragedy...but if it had to happen, it could not have happened to a more  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 05:08 PM   #188 
   It didn't happen to Wal-mart.  clear eye   Nov-28-08 05:27 PM   #197 
   I absolutely disagree. This did happen to Walmart, and they will pay a price in many ways  gristy   Nov-28-08 06:35 PM   #218 
      Riiiiiiight. ;-(  clear eye   Nov-29-08 09:51 AM   #260 
   IT would have been alright If  Optimistic   Nov-28-08 05:32 PM   #201 
   Welcome to DU. Point well taken.  no_hypocrisy   Nov-28-08 05:52 PM   #206 
   The tragedy was the death of the employee. What WalMart deserves is the horrific PR that they will  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 06:12 PM   #216 
   Geez.. Don't these people realize Wal-Mart will have the same sale in a few weeks?  gatorboy   Nov-28-08 05:15 PM   #193 
   This is horrific-just think how people will behave if this country sinks into the Great Depression 2  TheGoldenRule   Nov-28-08 05:20 PM   #194 
   There is no feeling of togetherness anymore  cushla_machree   Nov-28-08 05:32 PM   #200 
      Yep-it will be just like the Wild West.  TheGoldenRule   Nov-28-08 05:56 PM   #209 
   Time has come to ban Black Friday,Unless  Optimistic   Nov-28-08 05:26 PM   #196 
   How idiotic  bamalib   Nov-28-08 05:40 PM   #203 
   I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner  Moosepoop   Nov-28-08 05:31 PM   #199 
   I hope the family sues Wal Mart and wins. I hate those bloate parasites  Acadia Blue   Nov-28-08 05:59 PM   #210 
   SAFETY IS OUR 2ND PRIORITY----- PROFIT IS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.... GET OVER IT ! ! !  happygoluckytoyou   Nov-28-08 06:04 PM   #214 
   Imagine how the food lines will be when the time comes.  Career Prole   Nov-28-08 06:34 PM   #217 
   But LI is wealthy, isn't it? And what's worse, the man was a temp to boot.  Waiting For Everyman   Nov-28-08 07:30 PM   #223 
   This store is on the NYC border, 90%+++ of the customers are from Queens  nedbal   Nov-28-08 08:29 PM   #231 
   Wow, that's more depressing. And thanks though.  Waiting For Everyman   Nov-29-08 02:08 AM   #249 
   There are fairly sizeable poor areas in L.I.,  clear eye   Nov-29-08 02:05 PM   #271 
   A post from someone who used to work at Wal-Marts and opened the doors  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 07:31 PM   #224 
   Wal-Mart gave me a great price on pajamas for my three boys--  valerief   Nov-28-08 08:14 PM   #225 
   Here's what's going to happen  Nasprin   Nov-28-08 08:23 PM   #229 
   That is EXACTLY what will happen.  Jamastiene   Nov-29-08 11:12 AM   #264 
   Talk about the dark side of humanity - Absolutely no reason in the f-ing world  Hawaii Hiker   Nov-28-08 08:28 PM   #230 
   Dies for a minimum wage job  Downtown Hound   Nov-28-08 08:37 PM   #234 
   Terrible.  kenfrequed   Nov-28-08 09:05 PM   #238 
   Now that we've vented, remember one thing...  Butch350   Nov-28-08 09:13 PM   #239 
   DU was created to facilitate changing things for the better. n/t  clear eye   Nov-29-08 02:16 PM   #272 
   Have these tragedies happened at other stores? Or is this unique to Wal Mart?  muntrv   Nov-28-08 09:24 PM   #241 
   The more I read of this, the less I think Wal-Mart could've handled it  silverojo   Nov-28-08 10:50 PM   #242 
   Black Friday really sickens me as well. Consumerism at its worst.  Jennicut   Nov-28-08 11:19 PM   #243 
   Wrong. It could have been handled outside before the store opened.  clear eye   Nov-29-08 02:31 PM   #275 
   so FUCKING SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!  jennied   Nov-29-08 12:59 AM   #246 
   Jdimytai Damour - American-Born Son of Haitian immigrants  RamboLiberal   Nov-29-08 03:29 AM   #251 
   Photos of the Scene  RamboLiberal   Nov-29-08 04:42 AM   #252 
   More from NYT - the warnings of mob mentality and danger were there  RamboLiberal   Nov-29-08 04:46 AM   #254 
   The NYT published this story in THE BUSINESS SECTION. Not NY Region, not  no_hypocrisy   Nov-29-08 10:03 AM   #261 
   And human beings are different from animals in which way again??  ForeignSpectator   Nov-29-08 05:53 AM   #255 
   Human beings are the most dangerous animals on the face of the planet.  Jamastiene   Nov-29-08 11:14 AM   #265 
   More info on the story from Newsday FWIW  RamboLiberal   Nov-29-08 07:45 AM   #257 
   The "additional security" was probably posted inside to stop shoplifting,  clear eye   Nov-29-08 02:54 PM   #277 
   Victim's Life a Struggle  RamboLiberal   Nov-29-08 08:01 AM   #258 
   As long as the workers remembered to say "Merry Christmas" not "Happy Holidays"  nichomachus   Nov-29-08 10:27 AM   #263 
   Yes. Hey, O'Lielly, here's your REAL war on Christmas. nt  hvn_nbr_2   Nov-29-08 12:50 PM   #267 
   How long will it be before someone sells a Tee Shirt that  alfredo   Nov-29-08 02:04 PM   #270 
   everyone knows the risk n/t  excess_3   Nov-29-08 02:25 PM   #274 
      What a waste.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Nov-29-08 02:53 PM   #276 
 

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