| 91. No it has to do with an underlying respect for all humans. |
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Leave the judging to the judge is all.
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| -Prisoners have no right to hot meals, appeal court says |
Newsjock |
Nov-25-08 09:46 PM |
#0 |
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Poor friggin' babies want to be spoon fed TOO? |
Double T |
Nov-25-08 09:53 PM |
#1 |
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My Ruthug friend doesn't think the Red Cross should serve hot meals either. |
peace13 |
Nov-25-08 09:55 PM |
#2 |
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'warm' is close enough to 'hot'. |
Double T |
Nov-25-08 10:07 PM |
#7 |
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It isn't "coddling" prisoners, but yeah your impassionate attitude |
jrockford |
Nov-25-08 10:11 PM |
#10 |
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So not serving criminals three hot meals a day is stripping them of their dignity? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-26-08 02:59 AM |
#66 |
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No, but saying they deserve just bread and water is. Which is in what that was a response too. nt |
jrockford |
Nov-26-08 03:28 AM |
#68 |
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Just making sure. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-26-08 03:36 AM |
#69 |
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Wake Up...... |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 06:17 AM |
#80 |
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I don't recall saying nursing home care is passionate and selfless either. huh. nt |
jrockford |
Nov-26-08 07:29 AM |
#82 |
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Hi there, posting from work! |
Chulanowa |
Nov-26-08 08:46 PM |
#163 |
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the issue is responsibility |
amdezurik |
Nov-25-08 10:23 PM |
#18 |
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No it has to do with an underlying respect for all humans. |
peace13 |
Nov-26-08 09:35 AM |
#91 |
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You seem very cruel. Prisoners are people. But besides that, warm food induces both a |
zonkers |
Nov-26-08 10:11 AM |
#100 |
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When the food that is prepared "hot" and is "luke warm" or cold |
merh |
Nov-30-08 02:41 PM |
#205 |
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Your post leads me to believe one of three things. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 09:58 PM |
#4 |
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Amazing how the LOVE flows around here |
saigon68 |
Nov-25-08 10:10 PM |
#8 |
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Well said. |
jrockford |
Nov-25-08 10:10 PM |
#9 |
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I'm a recent repeat offender of cell phone use while driving, failure to wear a seatbelt while...... |
Double T |
Nov-25-08 10:17 PM |
#16 |
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What's pathetic is that it had to be taken to court in the first place. |
Dr.Phool |
Nov-25-08 10:31 PM |
#22 |
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What are the temperature regulations for a bologna sandwich? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-26-08 03:00 AM |
#67 |
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The same as for any food consumed by humans: |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 09:55 AM |
#94 |
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I doubt it takes four hours for the food to get from the kitchen to the cells |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:04 AM |
#113 |
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Notice the word "cumulative". |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 11:14 AM |
#117 |
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It doesn't but... |
Chan790 |
Nov-27-08 10:03 AM |
#188 |
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If stale bread and warm water works for you then feel free to eat it. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 10:35 PM |
#25 |
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I'll bet no one died from 'it' and no one even got sick either. |
Double T |
Nov-25-08 10:49 PM |
#31 |
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So your mindset is we should wait till someone does die. Gotcha. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 10:52 PM |
#32 |
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a recent report stated that 1 out of every 100 people has sociopathic tendancies... |
Javaman |
Nov-26-08 09:57 AM |
#97 |
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That's the same reasoning... |
snake in the grass |
Nov-26-08 12:50 AM |
#58 |
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From food poisoning? |
kgfnally |
Nov-26-08 05:13 PM |
#155 |
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You are mistaken. |
Piewhacket |
Nov-27-08 12:03 AM |
#175 |
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You can just bond-out. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 10:25 AM |
#106 |
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Or you are a CINO, Christian In Name Only. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-08 09:10 AM |
#90 |
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no I am not. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 10:58 AM |
#112 |
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We're talking prison, not jail |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:07 AM |
#114 |
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They're still human beings. |
last1standing |
Nov-26-08 12:35 PM |
#134 |
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Thank You. |
MontyZuma |
Nov-27-08 04:36 AM |
#182 |
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If you are in Pelican Bay |
Supply Side Jesus |
Nov-28-08 03:42 AM |
#196 |
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Amnesty International has had to campaign for the abuse of people in our prision systems |
debbierlus |
Nov-25-08 10:47 PM |
#29 |
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Yeah, thanks to heartless pricks like the guy above. |
Zhade |
Nov-26-08 12:47 AM |
#56 |
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Well said!!! It freaks me out that any one would agree with inhumane treatment. |
JDwho |
Nov-26-08 04:18 PM |
#146 |
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Agreed, debbierlus. Well said. n/t |
Laelth |
Nov-26-08 06:33 PM |
#161 |
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My oh my, I have republican friends with more compassion than you. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-25-08 11:26 PM |
#46 |
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I am with the OP on this. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 10:23 AM |
#105 |
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We have more people in prison than anywhere else in the world. The majority of prisoners are in for |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-08 10:38 AM |
#109 |
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They have it nice............I find their care amazingly humane as well. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 10:57 AM |
#111 |
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I'm guessing you have never done time. Or are you speaking from experience? |
Just A Yeller Dawg |
Nov-26-08 06:16 PM |
#159 |
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If even one has promise, then it's worth the time and effort |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 10:51 AM |
#110 |
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I'll Let my Brother Know That |
fascisthunter |
Nov-26-08 11:52 AM |
#128 |
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Let me guess |
Chulanowa |
Nov-26-08 08:52 PM |
#164 |
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I'm sure you know all about viciousness VeraAgnes |
MontyZuma |
Nov-27-08 04:34 AM |
#181 |
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So all those nonviolent drug offenders who never harmed others - fuck them too? |
Zhade |
Nov-26-08 12:46 AM |
#54 |
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Clever retort, very clever. PART OF ANY PRISON IS MEANT TO |
acmavm |
Nov-26-08 04:44 AM |
#73 |
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They can use a microwave, get commissary etc... |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 06:15 AM |
#78 |
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Again, one has nothing to do with the other...two separate problems. |
jrockford |
Nov-26-08 07:31 AM |
#83 |
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Are you an inmate lover? |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 09:55 AM |
#95 |
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I challenge you to listen to the following show, and not get choked up: |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 10:05 AM |
#99 |
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I'm very sure I would not choke-up over an inmate. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 10:17 AM |
#102 |
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I guess it takes a heart to care for your fellow human beings, no matter what their circumstances. |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 10:29 AM |
#107 |
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"inmate lover" |
kgfnally |
Nov-26-08 12:24 PM |
#131 |
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"inmate lover"? Interesting choice of words there. |
last1standing |
Nov-26-08 12:27 PM |
#133 |
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I challenge you to make a visit to your local county lock-up and then |
hedgehog |
Nov-26-08 08:21 AM |
#87 |
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Inmates are assholes. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 09:57 AM |
#96 |
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The alternative is that not attempting to rehabilitate, such that |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 10:11 AM |
#101 |
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There is not enough money, personnel or time to fix them. |
VeraAgnes |
Nov-26-08 10:20 AM |
#103 |
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If there's enough money to bail out those criminals at the top |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 10:33 AM |
#108 |
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There's definitely a lost soul in all of this. |
last1standing |
Nov-26-08 12:37 PM |
#135 |
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you have to admit a large percentage enjoys the criminal lifestyle. |
okieinpain |
Nov-26-08 11:48 AM |
#127 |
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I think you've watch "Bonnie & Clyde" too many times. |
last1standing |
Nov-26-08 12:41 PM |
#137 |
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Logically |
RattusRattus |
Nov-26-08 12:27 PM |
#132 |
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Does that include Guantanamo inmates? Or just all others...jeez |
JDwho |
Nov-26-08 04:20 PM |
#147 |
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Prison guards are much worse.... |
LeftofU |
Nov-26-08 07:13 PM |
#162 |
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Hey, what goes around comes around. |
MontyZuma |
Nov-27-08 03:12 AM |
#179 |
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He certainly wasn't coddled... |
LanternWaste |
Nov-26-08 11:13 AM |
#116 |
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You obviously know nothing about |
pipoman |
Nov-26-08 04:48 PM |
#153 |
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Wow...Adopt a pet but FUCK the humans? Nice priorities pal... |
truebrit71 |
Nov-26-08 12:02 PM |
#129 |
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Bread and water will not sustain them well |
Truth Teller |
Dec-16-08 08:26 PM |
#209 |
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I can't even remember when I had 2 hot meals a day. |
Fed_Up_Grammy |
Nov-25-08 09:57 PM |
#3 |
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Is that by choice or necessity? |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 09:59 PM |
#5 |
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By choice. I assume most folks have a quick,cold breakfast or |
Fed_Up_Grammy |
Nov-25-08 10:04 PM |
#6 |
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I think you missed the point... |
jrockford |
Nov-25-08 10:12 PM |
#11 |
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Why on earth would that choice even be necessary? |
Fed_Up_Grammy |
Nov-25-08 10:17 PM |
#15 |
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and when the Innocence Project |
amdezurik |
Nov-25-08 10:25 PM |
#20 |
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Where on earth did THAT come from? We were talking about |
Fed_Up_Grammy |
Nov-25-08 10:27 PM |
#21 |
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no we are talking about treating prisoners humanely |
amdezurik |
Nov-26-08 11:25 AM |
#122 |
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Would you want to eat cold 'mystery meat'? |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 10:41 PM |
#27 |
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thankyou last1standing! |
Maine-ah |
Nov-25-08 11:11 PM |
#38 |
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You assume they would bother to send them to the medical clinic. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 11:16 PM |
#41 |
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165 degrees. |
junofeb |
Nov-26-08 06:10 AM |
#75 |
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they don't get good medical care when they get sick, at least not in FL. |
Shoelace |
Nov-26-08 11:45 PM |
#171 |
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The ambient air temperature there is often 50 degrees or colder |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:13 AM |
#115 |
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And, according to Food Safety personnel |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 11:17 AM |
#118 |
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Yeah you did miss the point.. |
jrockford |
Nov-25-08 11:10 PM |
#36 |
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Not extended to prisoners.... |
WillBowden |
Nov-25-08 10:40 PM |
#26 |
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You should look at prison statistics sometime. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 10:47 PM |
#30 |
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Health codes encompass all public venues. |
junofeb |
Nov-26-08 06:11 AM |
#76 |
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Let 'em eat cake |
Dirigo |
Nov-25-08 10:13 PM |
#12 |
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Typical conservative thinking - wow, haha our servicemen blah blah blah |
jrockford |
Nov-25-08 11:14 PM |
#40 |
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Curious, are you a Christian?? You sound like a republican. No offense. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-25-08 11:30 PM |
#47 |
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Sounds like a lot of christians, too. |
Zhade |
Nov-26-08 12:49 AM |
#57 |
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which is unsurprising, |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-26-08 10:20 AM |
#104 |
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That's not the issue. The issue is whether the prison management |
JDPriestly |
Nov-26-08 01:18 AM |
#60 |
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Whoa |
junofeb |
Nov-26-08 06:12 AM |
#77 |
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Did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque? |
Jamastiene |
Nov-26-08 04:22 PM |
#148 |
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Having the ability to choose what you'd like to eat each day is nice, isn't it? |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 10:45 PM |
#28 |
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Why would the food have to be hot or cooked? |
FarCenter |
Nov-25-08 10:16 PM |
#13 |
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Interesting. I read an article recently that said human's brains evolved |
Doremus |
Nov-25-08 10:21 PM |
#17 |
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Possibly true, but |
FarCenter |
Nov-25-08 10:34 PM |
#24 |
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What about the Aquatic Ape Theory (AAT)? |
ngant17 |
Nov-26-08 02:54 AM |
#65 |
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That's not what the court was deciding. Whether the hot food |
JDPriestly |
Nov-26-08 01:23 AM |
#61 |
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I don't know if this is EXACTLY how it's done there |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:17 AM |
#119 |
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Have you ever worked in a big kitchen before? |
kentauros |
Nov-26-08 11:35 AM |
#124 |
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Hot plates under the trays or warming cushions around the trays. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-26-08 10:56 PM |
#169 |
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One thing to remember: |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:38 PM |
#170 |
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They manage it in hospitals. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-28-08 01:18 AM |
#195 |
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Good |
gravity |
Nov-25-08 10:16 PM |
#14 |
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Don't go visit 'em either? |
pocoloco |
Nov-25-08 10:32 PM |
#23 |
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MISLEADING HEADLINE, |
elleng |
Nov-25-08 10:23 PM |
#19 |
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Bwaahahahaa! |
Journalgrrl |
Nov-25-08 10:58 PM |
#33 |
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I always say there's no better way to run a penal system than by personal revenge. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 11:03 PM |
#34 |
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oh, there's so much more I would do to him if given the chance, |
Journalgrrl |
Nov-25-08 11:09 PM |
#35 |
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Do you ever think a day will come when you will wish someone cared about you? |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 11:12 PM |
#39 |
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I can only be as "sensitive" as my own survival allows |
Journalgrrl |
Nov-25-08 11:21 PM |
#44 |
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I hope you get the help you need. |
last1standing |
Nov-25-08 11:26 PM |
#45 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-26-08 12:39 PM |
#136 |
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You got that out of my post? |
last1standing |
Nov-26-08 12:48 PM |
#140 |
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just remember, |
uncle ray |
Nov-26-08 12:14 AM |
#50 |
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I actually left on my own... |
Journalgrrl |
Nov-26-08 12:34 AM |
#52 |
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Well...revenge is a dish best served...cold |
Sivafae |
Nov-26-08 12:47 AM |
#55 |
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If you let it turn you into a bitter person who doesn't care about anyone else |
Connonym |
Nov-26-08 01:54 AM |
#63 |
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"Could care less" eh? Well that's good to think you care a tiny bit. |
jrockford |
Nov-25-08 11:17 PM |
#42 |
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I think a lot of people here need to be reminded that prisoners |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:24 AM |
#121 |
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they're getting more sadistic now |
KakistocracyHater |
Nov-25-08 11:11 PM |
#37 |
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Are you speaking form experience? n/t |
peace13 |
Nov-26-08 09:36 AM |
#92 |
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huh |
KakistocracyHater |
Nov-27-08 12:04 AM |
#176 |
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incarceration is THE PENALTY... |
islandmkl |
Nov-25-08 11:17 PM |
#43 |
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what do they care? |
trollybob |
Nov-25-08 11:37 PM |
#48 |
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our military has suffered worse in the field, and yet prisoners try to be coddled. Blah |
ksimons |
Nov-25-08 11:54 PM |
#49 |
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Your reasoning is worthy of the free republic as is your compassion. |
jrockford |
Nov-26-08 12:31 AM |
#51 |
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It a public health issue |
junofeb |
Nov-26-08 06:17 AM |
#79 |
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You don't know shit. |
High Plains |
Nov-26-08 09:04 AM |
#89 |
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Our troops should be treated well and that is not happening |
peace13 |
Nov-26-08 09:40 AM |
#93 |
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Wrong |
duhneece |
Dec-16-08 06:11 PM |
#208 |
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Holding food |
strategery blunder |
Nov-26-08 12:37 AM |
#53 |
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If the court does not have the right to enforce the department's |
JDPriestly |
Nov-26-08 01:14 AM |
#59 |
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Hmm...I'm assuming the JD doesn't mean you're a lawyer. |
jrockford |
Nov-26-08 01:42 AM |
#62 |
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You are right about the agency rules -- but agency decisions can be challenged. |
JDPriestly |
Nov-26-08 10:53 PM |
#168 |
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bologna |
hbskifreak |
Nov-26-08 02:28 AM |
#64 |
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What's your opinion on Sheriff Joe? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-16-08 11:04 AM |
#207 |
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Instead of Treating Them with Decency for the First Time in Their Lives... |
insidejoke |
Nov-26-08 03:47 AM |
#70 |
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Good post nt |
jrockford |
Nov-26-08 07:35 AM |
#84 |
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Thank you! |
genevat |
Nov-26-08 07:59 AM |
#85 |
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"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons." |
Shoelace |
Nov-26-08 11:50 PM |
#173 |
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Great article for bringing out the worst in all of us. |
truthisfreedom |
Nov-26-08 03:51 AM |
#71 |
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Not all of us. |
Bluebear |
Nov-26-08 03:55 AM |
#72 |
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Health codes |
junofeb |
Nov-26-08 06:06 AM |
#74 |
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165 Degrees |
Arkplayer |
Nov-26-08 08:03 AM |
#86 |
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Common sense! |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:34 AM |
#123 |
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OK |
junofeb |
Nov-26-08 12:06 PM |
#130 |
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See my post about holding food upthread. |
strategery blunder |
Nov-26-08 01:46 PM |
#141 |
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Many restaurants serve cold sandwiches |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-27-08 10:55 PM |
#193 |
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The original point of a prison was self betterment - what happened to rehabilitation? |
comtec |
Nov-26-08 06:39 AM |
#81 |
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Short-timers are not held in this unit at Pelican Bay |
XemaSab |
Nov-26-08 11:38 AM |
#125 |
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well then, nvm :) |
comtec |
Nov-27-08 02:06 AM |
#178 |
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People who have never been in prison have no idea of the importance |
hedgehog |
Nov-26-08 08:26 AM |
#88 |
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The core problem is there are too many people in prison who don't belong there |
slackmaster |
Nov-26-08 09:59 AM |
#98 |
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They should never have a TV, let alone cable TV. The system is to soft, IMHO. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-26-08 11:17 AM |
#120 |
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You are full of shit, and don't know what the fuck you are talking about! |
ThePowerofWill |
Nov-27-08 09:16 AM |
#184 |
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And after the first couple of prison riots, what then? |
jmowreader |
Nov-26-08 11:44 AM |
#126 |
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Look, prison is way to soft. I had a person in my taxi once tell me they missed jail. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-26-08 04:06 PM |
#144 |
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Private prison companies cutting corners to try to make a fast buck. (nt) |
w4rma |
Nov-26-08 12:41 PM |
#138 |
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How many prison riots started becaue the food was too good? |
LeftHander |
Nov-26-08 12:45 PM |
#139 |
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Human beings should be treated humanely. |
baldguy |
Nov-26-08 03:43 PM |
#142 |
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Even those who wantonly treated others inhumanely in the first place? |
HypnoToad |
Nov-26-08 04:31 PM |
#150 |
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How a society treats its lowest members says a lot about it.. |
baldguy |
Nov-26-08 05:54 PM |
#158 |
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some of the remarks in this thread leave me speechless... |
mikita |
Nov-26-08 03:54 PM |
#143 |
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As antisocial as I can be toward people, |
Jamastiene |
Nov-26-08 04:13 PM |
#145 |
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Decent food, I'll agree. |
HypnoToad |
Nov-26-08 04:32 PM |
#151 |
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How about 'too hot'? Keep them in the microwave for 20 minutes... that'll be hot. |
HypnoToad |
Nov-26-08 04:30 PM |
#149 |
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As Doestoyevsky said, you can see how advanced a society is by looking at their prisions. |
superconnected |
Nov-26-08 04:43 PM |
#152 |
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US Constitution - no cruel or unusual punishment. |
wroberts189 |
Nov-26-08 05:05 PM |
#154 |
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Give me a break. |
totodeinhere |
Nov-26-08 05:19 PM |
#156 |
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Torture may be too strong but it is cruel. |
last1standing |
Nov-26-08 05:33 PM |
#157 |
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Safe Food Rules.. |
zelta gaisma |
Nov-26-08 06:26 PM |
#160 |
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Wow, I thought I was on Free Republic for a moment, |
RetroLounge |
Nov-26-08 09:28 PM |
#165 |
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Not to seem insensitive |
np33 |
Nov-26-08 10:02 PM |
#166 |
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I'm ok with giving death row imates bread and water once a day....unless they really are innocent |
ohio2007 |
Nov-26-08 10:20 PM |
#167 |
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Someone close to me, who spent time in prison... |
JDwho |
Nov-26-08 11:55 PM |
#174 |
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Cold food means it was sitting around for awhile |
Kurska |
Nov-26-08 11:49 PM |
#172 |
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Pelican Bay |
Arkplayer |
Nov-27-08 12:38 AM |
#177 |
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The suit was pretty obviously about ... |
Piewhacket |
Nov-27-08 09:24 AM |
#185 |
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The suit |
Arkplayer |
Nov-27-08 07:18 PM |
#191 |
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Glad to agree... |
Piewhacket |
Nov-28-08 12:20 AM |
#194 |
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Reasonable |
Arkplayer |
Nov-28-08 10:31 PM |
#200 |
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Reasonable people think its a 'crock'. |
Piewhacket |
Nov-29-08 02:59 AM |
#201 |
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There's more here than meets the eye |
MontyZuma |
Nov-27-08 04:13 AM |
#180 |
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This thread is sad |
Bragi |
Nov-27-08 09:01 AM |
#183 |
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Yes, many Americans are shamed by our criminal justice system... |
Piewhacket |
Nov-27-08 09:48 AM |
#187 |
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You wrote: |
Bragi |
Nov-27-08 10:08 AM |
#189 |
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The economy collapses.. |
Piewhacket |
Nov-27-08 12:18 PM |
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Bragi |
Nov-27-08 09:25 AM |
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Prison should be an unpleasant place prisoners do not want to return to |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-27-08 10:47 PM |
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they live better then most third world citizens. they should be thankful for that...... |
ohio2007 |
Nov-28-08 10:21 AM |
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you're joking.... is that how they do it in ohio? |
Piewhacket |
Nov-28-08 12:16 PM |
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Are you actually that clueless |
ohio2007 |
Nov-29-08 02:15 PM |
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I guess some people on this thread just don't get the concept of human rights |
Flagg |
Nov-28-08 12:13 PM |
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Human rights? |
ohio2007 |
Nov-29-08 02:29 PM |
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You persist... |
Piewhacket |
Nov-29-08 05:51 PM |
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Name removed |
Nov-30-08 03:59 PM |
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