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95. The Supreme Court disagrees with you. We have very progressive free speech laws here...
even more so than Europe or Canada. I like it that way, because at the end of the day, what is and isn't "hate speech" comes down to a very subjective decision.

It's called a marketplace of ideas. Good ideas, like Obama's, have value, and resonate with millions of people, to the tune of 60+ million votes. Stupid ideas, like this guys, are worthless, and only help to "out" him as a moron in his community. This guy is probably going to lose potential parishoners and community support over this, because his speech is stupid. He already has protestors countering his message with their own free speech. It's a beautiful thing.

And where is the hate in his message anyway? Being muslim is a sin in his faith (opinion) and Obama is a muslim (completely stupid...opinion.) Not to mention Obama is a public figure, and people are pretty much permitted to say whatever the hell they want about him.

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  -Kansas Preacher Pushes Obama Muslim Message sabra  Nov-17-08 12:35 PM   #0 
  - those 10 Commandments he pays lip-service to  amdezurik   Nov-17-08 12:37 PM   #1 
  - Maybe Rev Wright Can give the Minister  skeewee08   Nov-17-08 01:29 PM   #31 
  - Another example of "Don't confuse me with the FACTS - my mind is already made up"  RobertSeattle   Nov-17-08 12:37 PM   #2 
  - This guy is Fred Phelps Lite.  foxfeet   Nov-17-08 12:51 PM   #11 
  - I did my civic duty and emailed tham.  kestrel91316   Nov-17-08 01:12 PM   #24 
  - I sent them a nice note about Christianity and lying.  Marrah_G   Nov-17-08 01:13 PM   #25 
  - Yep ... I sent them a prayer request to have their preachers stop lying. n/t  daggahead   Nov-17-08 01:25 PM   #30 
  - another fundie bigot trying to make a name for himself  dwickham   Nov-17-08 02:59 PM   #66 
  - "... 'The main point of the marquee is to cause Christians to understand he's not a Christian,&#8221...  struggle4progress   Nov-17-08 10:31 PM   #101 
  - doesn't surprise me in Wichita  Blue_Tires   Nov-17-08 12:37 PM   #3 
  - They're not the norm in Wichita  KSDiva   Nov-17-08 12:57 PM   #14 
  - I guess if the Lord had a problem with it, Obama wouldn't be president  DesertedRose   Nov-17-08 12:38 PM   #4 
  - What does that say about God and Dummya though?  No Elephants   Nov-17-08 03:49 PM   #75 
  - Fuck him. You can't fix stupid.  DinahMoeHum   Nov-17-08 12:39 PM   #5 
  - Religious Radicals are Now a Threat to Our Democracy  fascisthunter   Nov-17-08 12:41 PM   #6 
  - Only now they are a threat to our democracy?  TechBear_Seattle   Nov-17-08 12:43 PM   #7 
  - They always have been, but now they are more rabid then ever  fascisthunter   Nov-17-08 12:46 PM   #9 
     - maybe st palin got them in a frenzy  alyce douglas   Nov-17-08 02:01 PM   #42 
        - Did anyone see the glossy magazine called "Historical" out all about Palin?  glinda   Nov-17-08 02:07 PM   #46 
  - just like they are everywhere else n/t  shanti   Nov-17-08 02:08 PM   #47 
  - And how do we "deal with them" without violating their 1st Amendment rights? nt  India3   Nov-17-08 02:51 PM   #62 
     - Who Said "WE" Had to Violate 1st Ammendment Rights?  fascisthunter   Nov-17-08 05:21 PM   #92 
        - The Supreme Court disagrees with you. We have very progressive free speech laws here...  India3   Nov-17-08 06:30 PM   #95 
        - How is it hate speech?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-17-08 10:36 PM   #102 
  - Explain this to me  chaplainM   Nov-17-08 12:44 PM   #8 
  - heh - good catch  Kali   Nov-17-08 12:48 PM   #10 
  - Obviously that's an article of FAITH for the preacher  moggie   Nov-17-08 12:51 PM   #12 
  - I left Wichita 6 years ago to move to Portland and have never looked back, What is the matter with  Danieljay   Nov-17-08 12:56 PM   #13 
  - Born and raised Kansan  buckettgirl   Nov-17-08 02:46 PM   #61 
     - Psst. Did you know that you can leave the state of Kansas without a visa.  olddad56   Nov-17-08 03:56 PM   #77 
     - Thats easier said than done.  buckettgirl   Nov-17-08 04:23 PM   #84 
        - I was only kidding. I couldn't leave my family either.  olddad56   Nov-17-08 09:42 PM   #99 
     - Hays Kansas. Once the highest beer consumption per capita in the world. I shouldn't generalize  Danieljay   Nov-17-08 05:08 PM   #90 
  - Waiting for that congregation to disown that preacher.... n/t  BadgerKid   Nov-17-08 12:58 PM   #15 
  - Sounds like a beautiful target for a lawsuit. Anybody want to own that church? nt  TheWraith   Nov-17-08 12:59 PM   #16 
  - What type of civil suit would you bring? Just curious...  India3   Nov-17-08 04:56 PM   #86 
  - Whack job central  Botany   Nov-17-08 01:02 PM   #17 
  - Maybe Obama just needs to go on Saturday Night Live and eat pork. n/t  IanDB1   Nov-17-08 01:02 PM   #18 
  - Yup.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Nov-17-08 01:58 PM   #41 
     - No, he should eat it right off a pig on a spit. n/t  IanDB1   Nov-18-08 06:18 AM   #103 
  - no more tax exempt status  Parche   Nov-17-08 01:05 PM   #19 
  - i guess if your gawd couldn't keep a muslim out of the white house..  frylock   Nov-17-08 01:05 PM   #20 
  - Don't you know the universal answer to that logic?  laptoprepairguy   Nov-17-08 02:29 PM   #58 
     - Or The Divil done did it.  bertman   Nov-17-08 04:15 PM   #80 
  - I don't advocate violence......, BUT..............  pattmarty   Nov-17-08 01:07 PM   #21 
  - Thre you have it.....  JimboBillyBubbaBob   Nov-17-08 01:10 PM   #22 
  - The Lord works in mysterious ways  hangman86   Nov-17-08 01:11 PM   #23 
  - The man's a publicity whore.  Just A Yeller Dawg   Nov-17-08 01:16 PM   #26 
  - Lying is also a sin against the Lord.  BattyDem   Nov-17-08 01:16 PM   #27 
  - Where in the Bible does it say that being Muslim is a sin against the Lord?  sinkingfeeling   Nov-17-08 01:17 PM   #28 
  - I think it is right under "For to leave the toilet seat up is an abomination."  HopeHoops   Nov-17-08 01:33 PM   #34 
  - "Do not bear false witness against your neighbor"  FrenchieCat   Nov-17-08 01:19 PM   #29 
  - that has never stopped them before...  zelta gaisma   Nov-17-08 04:20 PM   #83 
  - You would think that you would go to a preacher for TRUTH ... not lies ...  zbdent   Nov-17-08 01:32 PM   #32 
  - So the preacher is a liar? And he defends his lie?  acmavm   Nov-17-08 01:32 PM   #33 
  - Time for this quote again...  onager   Nov-17-08 01:41 PM   #35 
  - Ah, Brother Mencken  Robb   Nov-17-08 01:48 PM   #37 
  - Mencken was a true artist with words...  BrklynLiberal   Nov-17-08 02:21 PM   #54 
  - what would be cool  GTRMAN   Nov-17-08 01:48 PM   #36 
  - These are sick fucks.  SavageDem   Nov-17-08 01:53 PM   #38 
  - Lots of people go to churches that lie to them.  mn9driver   Nov-17-08 01:54 PM   #39 
  - we have our own homegrown religious extremists terrorists  alyce douglas   Nov-17-08 01:58 PM   #40 
  - Another IDIOTIC Religious leader, the problem is they seem to never go away.  sarcasmo   Nov-17-08 02:01 PM   #43 
  - This is how you become an evangelical "star."  tomreedtoon   Nov-17-08 02:04 PM   #44 
  - blasphemous  Terran   Nov-17-08 02:06 PM   #45 
  - okay, so obviously this "preacher" is off his meds, but...  Javaman   Nov-17-08 02:10 PM   #48 
  - He really needs to watch it.  obiwan   Nov-17-08 02:19 PM   #53 
  - we have to find out if that church is under 501 c 3  Sebass1271   Nov-17-08 02:12 PM   #49 
  - That preacher should re-read his little black book of God  liberal N proud   Nov-17-08 02:12 PM   #50 
  - God didn't right that book, and neither did Jesus....  olddad56   Nov-17-08 03:59 PM   #78 
  - From the church's own website: "You shall not lie".........  LeftinOH   Nov-17-08 02:14 PM   #51 
  - These fundamentalists and TV evangelists have turned me against religion.  AlinPA   Nov-17-08 02:18 PM   #52 
  - Here is the sign  RedEarth   Nov-17-08 02:24 PM   #55 
  - That church should lose its tax exempt status. nt  raccoon   Nov-17-08 02:25 PM   #56 
  - emailed an "urgent prayer request"  northernlights   Nov-17-08 02:25 PM   #57 
  - To paraphrase Colin Powell,  NOLALady   Nov-17-08 02:43 PM   #59 
  - These people never give up  socialdemocrat1981   Nov-17-08 02:44 PM   #60 
  - Send your e-mail to the Spirit One Christain Center here  jbfam4   Nov-17-08 03:03 PM   #67 
  - That church looks to be one of the prosperity gospel preaching ones  LibertyLover   Nov-17-08 02:53 PM   #63 
  - So this preacher is "Bearing false witness"  Uncle Joe   Nov-17-08 02:56 PM   #64 
  - We need to not call them "preacher" or "priest"....the keyword is "radical cleric"  Liberal Veteran   Nov-17-08 03:09 PM   #68 
  - I believe you make a good point.  Uncle Joe   Nov-17-08 03:12 PM   #69 
  - That's what I was thinking. Thou shalt not bear false witness.  Overseas   Nov-17-08 03:24 PM   #70 
  - Golly, another fundie wacko. FYI, here is Exodus 20:3 referenced on the sign:  bobd0   Nov-17-08 02:57 PM   #65 
  - You nailed it!!  John_Doe_800   Nov-17-08 03:52 PM   #76 
  - I hope he does keep the sign up.  Maestro   Nov-17-08 03:28 PM   #71 
  - HEY STUPID! THE ELECTION'S OVER.  Gregorian   Nov-17-08 03:42 PM   #72 
  - Religious quote  bongbong   Nov-17-08 03:45 PM   #73 
  - Put this sign near his Church: " preacher decended from apes". n/t  scytherius   Nov-17-08 03:47 PM   #74 
  - this church should be picketed with "Thou shall not bear false witness" signs  rosebud57   Nov-17-08 04:10 PM   #79 
  - No wonder  madamesilverspurs   Nov-17-08 04:17 PM   #81 
  - Guess he's one of those Christians who rejects the Ten Commandments.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-17-08 04:19 PM   #82 
  - What the hell is the matter with Kansas?  someonehasdementia   Nov-17-08 04:43 PM   #85 
  - Kansas is so fucked up, that Kansas City is in Missouri!  TankLV   Nov-17-08 09:59 PM   #100 
     - I hear ya, Tank  someonehasdementia   Nov-18-08 05:40 PM   #105 
  - He needs his tax exempt status taken away and his cross turned in. He's failing on both accounts.  superconnected   Nov-17-08 04:57 PM   #87 
  - Dude, the election's over. You lost. GET OVER IT!!!!!  Taverner   Nov-17-08 04:58 PM   #88 
  - I wrote to that site. I even told them I'd pray for their minister since he choose hate instead of  superconnected   Nov-17-08 05:04 PM   #89 
  - Isn't he getting a dog for his daughers?  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:09 PM   #91 
  - What are the rest of their non-white members doing about it?  LiberalFighter   Nov-17-08 05:31 PM   #93 
  - Take a look at their church at Google Map  LiberalFighter   Nov-17-08 05:35 PM   #94 
  - don't be surprised, my fellow prisoners ................  resnah   Nov-17-08 08:00 PM   #96 
  - A) I'm a Muslim and B) I lived in Wichita for 13 years  DeposeTheBoyKing   Nov-17-08 08:22 PM   #97 
  - the slaughter of Kansas cows by nominally Christian Kansas is the sin against God  investintrains   Nov-17-08 08:25 PM   #98 
  - Ha Ha Ha Mark Hollick!  MuseRider   Nov-18-08 12:56 PM   #104 

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