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Mon Nov-17-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 22. Perhaps to the pirates. |
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But underneath it all there is still the same old game, and it's changed little. After the decline of ransom on land, a prize at sea was the only way for a run-of-the-mill soldier, sailor, or Marine to strike it rich, and while the opportunities for white-collar crimes in the American armed forces now abound, the real money is still in piracy.
Once a ship and its cargo is taken, its return becomes a matter of high finance, and there are competing forces out there trying to get it back. One force is the owners of the shipping companies, who are willing to quietly hire the wealthiest mercenaries in the world in order to get the missing ship back before the incident is reported to insurance companies--to avoid increases on premiums. Once reported, the insurance companies often turn to the very same mercenaries to get the ships back. Very few of the recoveries are publicly reported. One might speculate that successful pirates are operating along similar off-the-books practices to dispose of taken ships and their cargoes. Insurance companies have the opportunity to profit or at least minimize loss every step of the way, though they may not be directly involved in all of them, because they will inevitably pass any recovery costs onto someone else.
According to one person I know, the best anti-piracy teams are comprised of former SEALs and SBS types. They wait until their recovery targets are in international waters or places where few questions will be asked, and then the boats are miraculously returned without a pirate to be found aboard. Prize-crews, or whatever they are called these days, can expect to make six figures a job, and can expect to pull off three to five jobs a year--many times what an average Halliburton employee can expect to make running their own brand of piracy against the U.S. taxpayer.
With that kind of money washing around, it's no wonder that the problem persists and (reported piracy, which represents but a fraction of the problem) is even on the rise since the early 00s.
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| -Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker |
edwardlindy |
Nov-17-08 07:13 AM |
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I really don't know what to think of this pirates stuff |
notadmblnd |
Nov-17-08 07:17 AM |
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In the order you asked: |
DRoseDARs |
Nov-17-08 07:38 AM |
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I had insight on this from a friend in East Cameroon years ago..... |
texanshatingbush |
Nov-17-08 08:47 AM |
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Thats the Kim Jong ill formula for success |
ohio2007 |
Nov-17-08 06:41 PM |
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I doubt the "poor starving somalians" answer. my question would be, if they're poor & starving, how |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-18-08 03:14 AM |
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"Run up the Skull & Boner flag. Smirk." - Commander AWOL Bush (R) |
SpiralHawk |
Nov-17-08 07:20 AM |
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They'd better get ready for a courtesy call from Dred Pirate Blackwater. |
tanyev |
Nov-17-08 07:24 AM |
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I wonder if those pirates would sell us some of that oil for cheap? n/t |
fasttense |
Nov-17-08 07:28 AM |
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What ? oil is like $48 bbl........ That tanker could fuel the US for only two minutes or so |
ohio2007 |
Nov-22-08 09:51 AM |
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And yet another band of pirates will bring it to our gas stations |
boobooday |
Nov-17-08 07:42 AM |
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Such pirates didn't pull these stunts when Errol was about. |
edwardlindy |
Nov-17-08 07:55 AM |
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I always wanted to be a pirate |
rcrush |
Nov-17-08 09:04 AM |
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POTC was a false representation of piracy |
Mike Daniels |
Nov-18-08 07:32 AM |
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Past tense, actually. They already let it go. |
soothsayer |
Nov-17-08 10:01 AM |
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Source? The BBC story was last updated at 2235 GMT, and still says it is 'captured' |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-17-08 07:07 PM |
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A ship carrying weapons into sovereign waters might not be welcomed but there must be something... |
Eryemil |
Nov-17-08 10:20 AM |
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Here's a story I heard in Egypt |
onager |
Nov-17-08 11:34 AM |
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A well armed Black Hawk type helicopter with air to ground missiles |
ladjf |
Nov-17-08 03:11 PM |
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Ukrainian weapons shipments, UN food shipments, all fairly run of the mill |
bushmeister0 |
Nov-17-08 01:26 PM |
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Whatever happened to that Ukrainian arms shipment? (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Nov-17-08 01:59 PM |
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They've still got it, according to Ukrainian media. |
bushmeister0 |
Nov-17-08 02:24 PM |
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like the Barbary Pirates attacking American shipping in 1799 |
kwassa |
Nov-17-08 02:09 PM |
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Don't forget Caesar. |
bushmeister0 |
Nov-17-08 02:30 PM |
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Don't get mad, get even |
kwassa |
Nov-17-08 02:48 PM |
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Apart from looting the ship and robbing the crew it is a useless prize |
fedsron2us |
Nov-17-08 03:12 PM |
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insurance money. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-17-08 03:19 PM |
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Perhaps to the pirates. |
sofa king |
Nov-17-08 03:58 PM |
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Convenient how the mercenaries stand good chances of being hired no matter what. |
WritersBlock |
Nov-17-08 05:19 PM |
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Heh. Yep. |
sofa king |
Nov-17-08 05:32 PM |
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A cynic would say the mercs could be doing some of the pirating, too. |
WritersBlock |
Nov-17-08 08:03 PM |
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I don't think so. Pirates often had silent partners lurking in the background |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-18-08 03:30 AM |
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Oh, I think the pirates are real enough. |
sofa king |
Nov-18-08 08:35 AM |
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Oil tanker is only five months old and was going around the horn when taken off Tanzania |
ohio2007 |
Nov-17-08 06:34 PM |
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Some background: The Somali privateers started as a fishing protection force in the early 90s |
entanglement |
Nov-17-08 08:38 PM |
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what kind of boats do somali fishermen have? |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-18-08 03:36 AM |
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Hijacked oil tanker nears Somalia |
Kire |
Nov-18-08 12:28 AM |
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Biggest terrorist weapon ever... |
Kire |
Nov-18-08 12:30 AM |
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But is there any oil in it? |
Kire |
Nov-18-08 12:32 AM |
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Somali pirates hijack Saudi tanker loaded with oil |
Alamuti Lotus |
Nov-18-08 12:47 AM |
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thank you for this information |
Kire |
Nov-18-08 04:06 AM |
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Kick. Argh. |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-18-08 05:23 AM |
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Seized tanker anchors off Somalia |
edwardlindy |
Nov-18-08 07:31 AM |
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This story interests me |
Inchworm |
Nov-18-08 08:08 AM |
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these what? |
Kire |
Nov-19-08 04:21 AM |
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Islamists on trail of Somali pirates ( taking a muslim ship is not kosher ) |
ohio2007 |
Nov-22-08 09:36 AM |
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Old pirates, yes, they rob I, |
Kire |
Nov-26-08 06:45 AM |
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