Spouting Horn
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Sat Sep-13-08 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #26 |
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and the USA is torture.
Why don't you go to Cuba, criticize castro, then see how free you are.
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| -Stranded Galveston residents call in vain for rescues |
kurth_ |
Sep-12-08 11:05 PM |
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Doesn't it burn you up? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:08 PM |
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Thought I like blaming the GOP for a lot of things |
Bubbha Jo |
Sep-12-08 11:11 PM |
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Hurricane Ike did a LOT of damage in Cuba...... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:16 PM |
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and if the US government went in and forcibly removed people |
paulk |
Sep-12-08 11:24 PM |
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I'm not so sure. Generally, in the U.S. the ones that die are the ones that don't have the money . |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:26 PM |
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that's not the case with the people who CHOSE to stay in galveston. |
QuestionAll |
Sep-12-08 11:36 PM |
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Hmm... who all stayed behind? The very ill? The very old? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:43 PM |
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Thank you... this is exactly the right response to that sort of idiocy. |
heliarc |
Sep-13-08 12:02 AM |
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Thank you. The pull yourself up by your bootstraps is bullshit |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-13-08 12:06 AM |
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They evacuated the very ill. |
emilyg |
Sep-13-08 12:12 AM |
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Also the very dumb... |
kirby |
Sep-13-08 12:27 AM |
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Some didn't like the traffic jams before Rita hit and decided to stay. |
Suich |
Sep-13-08 01:35 AM |
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yes, I have a friend whose ill brother died on the road during Rita |
ensho |
Sep-13-08 10:06 AM |
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i think there was a backlash from the Rita evacuation |
barbtries |
Sep-13-08 07:51 AM |
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I think the real lesson learned from Rita is that there is no way to |
snappyturtle |
Sep-13-08 11:54 AM |
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wow |
barbtries |
Sep-13-08 02:22 PM |
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There Are Threads IN GD About The ID10T's Who Stayed Behind. |
jayfish |
Sep-13-08 07:59 AM |
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KHOU showed plenty of JACKASSES who thought it was cool and funny to stay |
Dreamer Tatum |
Sep-13-08 09:35 AM |
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No. Anyone who needed help was bussed out for free. Ill, elderly, poor. nt |
indie_ana_500 |
Sep-14-08 09:01 PM |
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Not according to this woman |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Sep-14-08 09:16 PM |
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Are you certain? |
heliarc |
Sep-13-08 12:07 AM |
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I noticed that's what NOLA was doing with the hurricane before IKE |
ohio2007 |
Sep-13-08 10:37 AM |
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40% of the population decided to stay |
xxqqqzme |
Sep-13-08 10:19 PM |
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True that. |
Mind_your_head |
Sep-12-08 11:57 PM |
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And we are free and they are not..... |
Bubbha Jo |
Sep-12-08 11:24 PM |
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Freedom to go hungry and die, freedom for your child to die from no health care if you can't get any |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:47 PM |
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Yes, Cuba is Freedom |
Spouting Horn |
Sep-13-08 09:09 AM |
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In Cuba you are cared for |
reggie the dog |
Sep-13-08 12:22 PM |
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Just to be clear - just as one is "cared for", one cares for also. |
Billy Burnett |
Sep-13-08 12:29 PM |
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I wish it were like that here in France |
reggie the dog |
Sep-13-08 01:30 PM |
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Which Castro? |
WriteDown |
Sep-13-08 12:41 PM |
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The logic of a pretzel. |
Billy Burnett |
Sep-13-08 02:38 AM |
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It's against the law |
dgibby |
Sep-12-08 11:43 PM |
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If there's danger, or we're attacked, or there's a fire, one cannot be moved forcibly? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:48 PM |
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They should make a law like they have in Arizona |
silverojo |
Sep-13-08 01:16 AM |
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Sep-12-08 11:44 PM |
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So if there's a fire in your house, and the fire dept. forcibly moved you, that's against the law? |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-12-08 11:49 PM |
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Totally different. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 12:03 AM |
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I can't believe you're arguing that the government should not save someone from |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-13-08 12:05 AM |
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That I am. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 12:11 AM |
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Well, as someone mentioned, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps thingie is crap |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-13-08 12:14 AM |
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Now you are making no sense at all. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 12:18 AM |
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Cobalt1999, thank you! |
ChazII |
Sep-14-08 02:37 AM |
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I second that. |
AngryOldDem |
Sep-14-08 07:30 AM |
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Yes, under emergency situations people can be forcibly evacuated |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 08:05 AM |
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An approaching hurricane is different than a fire, as already said. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 08:18 AM |
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You are absolutely wrong, and it's been done before |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 09:23 AM |
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There's your problem. You are an attorney. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 10:36 AM |
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You obviously also don't remember the times this has been done |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 01:19 PM |
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Name one hurricane where the National Guard forced evacuations. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 01:28 PM |
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Could it be the subtle difference between "mandatory" and "forced"? |
AngryOldDem |
Sep-14-08 07:39 AM |
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It's impossible to FORCIBLY evacuate a population before a hurricane. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-14-08 09:40 AM |
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Enough was done by the various govts. Warning of "certain" death if you stay.... |
indie_ana_500 |
Sep-14-08 09:07 PM |
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also, it's worth pointing out that the function of the fire dept |
paulk |
Sep-13-08 11:54 AM |
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the problem I have with you idea |
reggie the dog |
Sep-13-08 12:33 PM |
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Fine, just dont expect rescue workers to risk their life to save your ass. |
kirby |
Sep-13-08 12:25 AM |
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That's the bargain with a mandatory evacutation |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 08:03 AM |
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You are uninformed and wrong on the law |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 09:28 AM |
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I'm talking real life, not what's on the law books. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 10:16 AM |
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It's been done in real life |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 01:20 PM |
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Name the hurricane. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-13-08 01:30 PM |
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Still waiting for that Hurricane name... |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-14-08 09:33 AM |
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I'm sorry it's not my highest priority |
jberryhill |
Sep-16-08 08:35 PM |
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So in other words, you've got no example. |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-16-08 08:58 PM |
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Wildfires move faster than hurricanes |
jberryhill |
Sep-16-08 09:11 PM |
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You seem to have a lack of reading comprehension |
cobalt1999 |
Sep-16-08 09:20 PM |
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You might want to get the cites right |
depakid |
Sep-13-08 12:50 PM |
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Which one |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 01:22 PM |
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You were probably looking for the vaccination case |
depakid |
Sep-13-08 01:35 PM |
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Same line of cases... |
jberryhill |
Sep-16-08 08:37 PM |
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Well, if it is legal for police to tear gas and rubber bullet peaceful protesters from |
1monster |
Sep-13-08 09:53 AM |
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were there busses for the poor? |
reggie the dog |
Sep-13-08 12:25 PM |
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Terry Schiavo (sp?) anyone? |
Le Taz Hot |
Sep-13-08 06:03 AM |
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Cuba does FORCE the evacuations. |
ingac70 |
Sep-12-08 11:51 PM |
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Of course they force them. And while in N.O. people died drowned, by droves.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-13-08 12:19 AM |
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Just curious if you have a link to the info about "of course they force them" |
clixtox |
Sep-13-08 08:03 AM |
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Pardon? nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-13-08 09:54 PM |
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Is my post confusing... |
clixtox |
Sep-14-08 01:32 AM |
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Oh please. NONSENSE. |
Billy Burnett |
Sep-13-08 02:25 AM |
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Thanks for your post., Billy Burnett. |
watrwefitinfor |
Sep-13-08 05:01 AM |
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Thank you. Galveston ducked, dodged and belittled Ike. |
aquart |
Sep-13-08 12:06 AM |
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:( I guess they cannot. nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Sep-13-08 12:20 AM |
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Cuba does it by community organizing so that everyone can evacuate. |
Billy Burnett |
Sep-13-08 02:22 AM |
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Its not fair to make that comparison .... |
Trajan |
Sep-13-08 03:02 AM |
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But this country would never accept a forcible evacuation policy |
DeltaLitProf |
Sep-13-08 05:56 AM |
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Bull - We do accept it, and it is legal |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 09:32 AM |
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"We chose a government that respects human freedom (at least nominally)" |
bean fidhleir |
Sep-14-08 09:29 AM |
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WE do that too! But our people are allowed to say NO. |
JeanGrey |
Sep-13-08 06:08 AM |
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Sorry, but the governor can use emergency powers to enforce evacuations |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 09:48 AM |
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You cannot FORCE anyone. |
JeanGrey |
Sep-13-08 11:36 AM |
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You can, and it's been done |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 01:26 PM |
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When? What Hurricane? |
JeanGrey |
Sep-14-08 06:33 PM |
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You have it at least partly wrong |
kdsusa |
Sep-13-08 07:34 AM |
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You really haven't thought this through. |
bvar22 |
Sep-13-08 11:57 AM |
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So you are saying |
JonQ |
Sep-13-08 01:44 PM |
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All governments control the media to some extent, Cuba is no exception |
marshall |
Sep-13-08 07:24 PM |
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Self Delete |
Jawja |
Sep-13-08 06:03 AM |
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Yep. And think of the children who's idiot parents trapped them in there. |
jazzjunkysue |
Sep-13-08 11:33 PM |
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well said |
BobbyZimmerman |
Sep-13-08 11:34 PM |
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Actually, the warning said those who stayed would face "certain" death and there would be no rescues |
indie_ana_500 |
Sep-14-08 09:00 PM |
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Isn't the Galveston mayor a Democrat? She ordered the evacuation too late. |
yardwork |
Sep-12-08 11:42 PM |
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No one is saying that but you. Why are you attacking the Democratic mayor of Galveston? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-12-08 11:47 PM |
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As recently as three days ago the mayor was saying it would be fine, the seawalls would hold, etc. |
yardwork |
Sep-13-08 12:27 AM |
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Weds. was voluntary evac. |
halobeam |
Sep-13-08 12:54 AM |
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Maybe, just maybe, it would be more respectful of the dead |
EmperorHasNoClothes |
Sep-13-08 12:00 AM |
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Yes, it burns me up how casually they censor the media. |
fasttense |
Sep-13-08 05:19 AM |
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HOW DOES IT reflect badly on anyone but the fools who |
JeanGrey |
Sep-13-08 06:07 AM |
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Absolutely. The GOP has to stop ordering up these storms. |
scot |
Sep-13-08 11:02 PM |
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what burns me is people are allowed to build on barrier islands & coastal surge zones |
wordpix |
Sep-16-08 09:13 PM |
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An independent spirit is sometimes quite admirable. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Sep-12-08 11:08 PM |
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Oh, Wait For The Spin |
iamjoy |
Sep-12-08 11:18 PM |
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I doubt many wealthy people stayed in Galveston. There are a lot of poor minorities there. |
yardwork |
Sep-12-08 11:43 PM |
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wishing the best for all and please take pictures of everything. |
uppityperson |
Sep-12-08 11:08 PM |
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Please don't chronicle the reality of the situation with.... |
sazemisery |
Sep-12-08 11:11 PM |
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I have 3 dogs 5 cats and 2 horse-if for some reason I couldn't get them out |
tularetom |
Sep-12-08 11:17 PM |
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Me too. Unfortuately not all pet owners care enough to make proper |
Doremus |
Sep-13-08 09:47 AM |
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I hope they provided the means to get out. |
cyr330 |
Sep-12-08 11:27 PM |
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yes, they did. the only people that stayed CHOSE to do so... |
QuestionAll |
Sep-12-08 11:37 PM |
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They get what they get... |
clixtox |
Sep-13-08 07:58 AM |
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More than 1300 buses and 300 ambulances were ordered to the area |
kurth_ |
Sep-12-08 11:38 PM |
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It costs nothing to put one foot in front of the other |
SCBeeland |
Sep-12-08 11:41 PM |
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you have got to be kidding me |
Fran Kubelik |
Sep-13-08 10:39 AM |
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nope. Try this one also... People in prison deserve to be there, should drown (paraphrased) |
uppityperson |
Sep-13-08 12:44 PM |
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My grandparents decided it wasn't worth evacuating their Vero Beach, FL home because of a hurricane |
CreekDog |
Sep-12-08 11:29 PM |
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Sorry but all I have to say is.... |
Roland99 |
Sep-12-08 11:38 PM |
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Why Do Some People Ignore Evacuation Warnings? |
kurth_ |
Sep-12-08 11:45 PM |
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They've had at least 48 hours' notice. |
Roland99 |
Sep-12-08 11:56 PM |
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As a teacher, I have to agree with this. The parents come in for all small events. |
jazzjunkysue |
Sep-13-08 11:51 PM |
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"ignored a mandatory evacuation order" |
Triana |
Sep-13-08 12:03 AM |
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Too bad |
jedex |
Sep-13-08 12:27 AM |
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it's sort of a toss-up |
pop goes the weasel |
Sep-13-08 01:05 AM |
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I have been watching news reports of Ike since last weekend .... |
Trajan |
Sep-13-08 03:27 AM |
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They had no choice. |
dchill |
Sep-13-08 10:02 PM |
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Natural Selection NT/ |
revolve |
Sep-13-08 01:25 AM |
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Sep-13-08 03:32 AM |
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that is disgusting |
Fran Kubelik |
Sep-13-08 10:39 AM |
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Residents call in Vain.. maybe they should call a different town. |
Loudmxr |
Sep-13-08 05:17 AM |
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people who want to evacuate |
northernlights |
Sep-13-08 05:55 AM |
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the media should photograph everything |
barbtries |
Sep-13-08 07:47 AM |
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In Streets of Galveston, the Feel of a Haunted House |
kurth_ |
Sep-13-08 07:53 AM |
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superman syndrome. they think they are invincible. they have no idea what the |
AgadorSparticus |
Sep-13-08 08:41 AM |
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The Law Permits Forcible Evacuation |
jberryhill |
Sep-13-08 09:30 AM |
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Welcome to the new and improved DU. |
Billy Burnett |
Sep-13-08 12:04 PM |
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Sorry, but I have a tough time feeling much sympathy for those that CHOSE to stay. |
SurferBoy |
Sep-13-08 12:15 PM |
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all the hurricane coverage you need and they had before the IKE |
ohio2007 |
Sep-13-08 12:55 PM |
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Apples & Oranges, SurferBoy. |
bvar22 |
Sep-13-08 01:12 PM |
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Quite a few I would believe. |
SurferBoy |
Sep-13-08 01:43 PM |
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1300 buses and 300 ambulances. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Sep-14-08 07:31 PM |
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Income has nothing to do w/evacuation of Galveston. I live nearby. Whadya wanna know? nt |
indie_ana_500 |
Sep-14-08 09:10 PM |
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Moral of the story, never get arrested in any place near sea level |
nolabels |
Sep-13-08 01:12 PM |
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How come Jesus didn't come to their rescue? |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-14-08 07:17 PM |
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I think these were the people Bill Hicks warned us about. |
Crowman1979 |
Sep-14-08 09:05 PM |
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why is no one talking about the idiocy of building on a barrier island, as well as |
wordpix |
Sep-16-08 09:17 PM |
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It seems to be a taboo subject ... |
Nihil |
Sep-17-08 03:54 AM |
#154 |
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